3rd baby name

[name_m]Hi[/name_m]- looking for some help/ideas for our 3rd baby- gender unknown. Our first two are [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] ([name_f]Betsy[/name_f]) and [name_m]John[/name_m] ([name_m]Jack[/name_m]). We like more traditional names that are short or have a short nickname.

Names we like but won’t use for different reasons include [name_f]Clara[/name_f], [name_f]Lucy[/name_f], [name_u]Owen[/name_u], [name_f]Mary[/name_f], [name_u]Max[/name_u].

Some names in consideration are [name_u]Vivian[/name_u] ([name_f]Viv[/name_f]), [name_f]Gwen[/name_f], [name_f]Julia[/name_f] (kind of long), [name_m]Clark[/name_m] (too similar to [name_m]Jack[/name_m]?), [name_m]Walter[/name_m] ([name_m]Walt[/name_m]), [name_u]Dean[/name_u].

What feedback or other suggestions do you have?

I like [name_u]Dean[/name_u], [name_u]Vivian[/name_u] and [name_f]Gwen[/name_f] for you

Some others

[name_u]Stanley[/name_u] ‘[name_m]Stan[/name_m]’
[name_m]Samuel[/name_m] ‘[name_u]Sam[/name_u]’
[name_u]Evan[/name_u]
[name_m]Ian[/name_m]
[name_m]Graham[/name_m] ‘[name_u]Gray[/name_u]’
[name_m]Marcus[/name_m] ‘[name_m]Mark[/name_m]’

[name_f]Sylvie[/name_f]/[name_f]Sylvia[/name_f]
[name_f]Charlotte[/name_f] ‘[name_f]Lottie[/name_f]’
[name_f]Anna[/name_f]
[name_f]Lydia[/name_f]
[name_f]Amy[/name_f]
[name_f]Amelia[/name_f] ‘[name_f]Mia[/name_f]’ ‘[name_f]Mila[/name_f]’ ‘[name_f]Millie[/name_f]’
[name_f]Ruth[/name_f]
[name_f]Cora[/name_f]

With [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] ‘[name_f]Betsy[/name_f]’ and [name_m]John[/name_m] ‘[name_m]Jack[/name_m]’, i love [name_m]Walter[/name_m] and [name_f]Gwen[/name_f] from your list. Have you consider [name_f]Gwendolyn[/name_f] nn [name_f]Gwen[/name_f]? That would be pretty as well.

Some other options:

[name_f]Ada[/name_f]
[name_f]Rose[/name_f]/[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]/[name_f]Rosemary[/name_f]/[name_f]Rosie[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f]
[name_f]Margot[/name_f]
[name_f]Norah[/name_f]
[name_f]Alice[/name_f]
[name_f]Anna[/name_f]
[name_f]Cora[/name_f]
[name_f]Amelia[/name_f]/[name_f]Mia[/name_f]/[name_f]Millie[/name_f]
[name_f]Daphne[/name_f]
[name_f]Olivia[/name_f]/[name_f]Liv[/name_f]
[name_f]Eva[/name_f]/[name_u]Evelyn[/name_u]/[name_f]Eve[/name_f]
[name_f]Flora[/name_f]
[name_f]Willa[/name_f]
[name_f]Mila[/name_f]
[name_f]Lily[/name_f]/[name_f]Lillian[/name_f]
[name_f]Beatrice[/name_f]/[name_f]Bea[/name_f]

[name_m]Liam[/name_m]
[name_m]Henry[/name_m]/[name_m]Hal[/name_m]/[name_m]Harry[/name_m]
[name_u]Noah[/name_u]
[name_m]Miles[/name_m]
[name_m]Ben[/name_m]
[name_m]Samuel[/name_m]/[name_u]Sam[/name_u]
[name_m]Arthur[/name_m] ‘[name_m]Art[/name_m]’
[name_m]Theodore[/name_m]/[name_u]Theo[/name_u]
[name_m]George[/name_m]
[name_m]Thomas[/name_m] ‘[name_m]Tom[/name_m]’

[name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], [name_m]John[/name_m], and

[name_m]Arthur[/name_m] - [name_m]Artie[/name_m], [name_m]Art[/name_m]
[name_m]Henry[/name_m] - [name_m]Hank[/name_m]
[name_u]Everett[/name_u] - [name_m]Rhett[/name_m]
[name_m]Benjamin[/name_m] - [name_m]Benny[/name_m], [name_m]Benji[/name_m]
[name_m]George[/name_m] - [name_u]Georgie[/name_u]
[name_m]Theodore[/name_m] - Ted, [name_u]Teddy[/name_u]

[name_f]Margaret[/name_f] - [name_f]Maggie[/name_f], [name_f]Margot[/name_f]
[name_f]Lillian[/name_f] - [name_f]Lily[/name_f]
[name_f]Charlotte[/name_f] - [name_f]Lottie[/name_f]
[name_f]Adeline[/name_f] - [name_u]Del[/name_u], [name_f]Ada[/name_f]
[name_f]Aveline[/name_f] - [name_f]Avie[/name_f]
[name_f]Amelia[/name_f] - [name_f]Millie[/name_f]

Some ideas:
[name_f]Anna[/name_f]
[name_f]Jane[/name_f]
[name_f]Grace[/name_f]
[name_f]Helena[/name_f] nn [name_f]Nell[/name_f]
[name_f]Margaret[/name_f] nn [name_f]Meg[/name_f] or [name_f]Maggie[/name_f] or [name_f]Mae[/name_f]
[name_f]Charlotte[/name_f]
[name_f]Abigail[/name_f] nn [name_u]Abby[/name_u]
[name_f]Hannah[/name_f]
[name_f]Celia[/name_f]
[name_f]Cecilia[/name_f] nn [name_f]Cece[/name_f]
[name_f]Louisa[/name_f] nn [name_f]Lulu[/name_f]
[name_f]Rose[/name_f]
[name_f]Eve[/name_f]
[name_f]Caroline[/name_f] nn [name_f]Callie[/name_f]
[name_f]Susannah[/name_f]
[name_f]Dorothea[/name_f] nn [name_f]Dottie[/name_f]
[name_f]Teresa[/name_f] nn [name_f]Tess[/name_f]
Virginia nn Ginny
Edith nn Edie
Katherine nn Kitty

[name_m]Thomas[/name_m]
[name_m]Andrew[/name_m] nn [name_u]Drew[/name_u]
[name_m]Timothy[/name_m]
[name_m]Peter[/name_m]
[name_m]Matthew[/name_m]

Hello! Your children have wonderful names, and I adore their vintage-cool nicknames. From your list, my favorite for a girl is [name_f]Julia[/name_f]. If you aren’t bothered by repeated initials, I think it is just about perfect: Classic, feminine, and it splits the syllable count between [name_m]John[/name_m] and [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], if you’re worried about length. Plus, it comes with a plethora of potential nicknames: ([name_u]Julie[/name_u], [name_f]Lia[/name_f], [name_u]Jules[/name_u], [name_f]Gia[/name_f], etc.) For boys, my favorite is [name_m]Walter[/name_m] nn [name_m]Walt[/name_m]. I love how strong and vintage it is, and the nickname [name_m]Walt[/name_m] is simply fantastic.

Boys Suggestions:
[name_m]Colin[/name_m]: I must admit that I am a bit biased, as this is my brother’s name, but it could be perfect for you. It’s very traditional, with long-ago origins, and has a great sound. I like the subtle connections between the “o” sound in [name_m]John[/name_m] and [name_m]Colin[/name_m] and the “l” sound in [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] and [name_m]Colin[/name_m].
[name_m]Grant[/name_m]: This name is just as solid as [name_m]John[/name_m] and [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], and is only one syllable long. It is a tailored, classic choice.
[name_m]Philip[/name_m] nn [name_u]Phil[/name_u]/[name_m]Peter[/name_m] nn [name_m]Pete[/name_m]: Both of these names are long-loved classics, and for good reason: They have strong consonant sounds and are mature, steady choices.
[name_m]Joseph[/name_m] nn [name_m]Joe[/name_m] or [name_u]Joey[/name_u]: Both of your children have firm, serious names with fun, cool nicknames, and this is a perfect way to continue that trend. [name_m]Joseph[/name_m] is professional and classic, while [name_m]Joe[/name_m] and [name_u]Joey[/name_u] are perfect laid-back nicknames.
[name_m]Ralph[/name_m]: One syllable, somewhat unexpected, and with great sounds: It reminds me of [name_m]Walter[/name_m] and [name_m]Clark[/name_m] from your list.
[name_m]Hugh[/name_m]: At only one syllable, this name is the definition of tailored strength. It has the adventurous connotations of [name_m]Clark[/name_m] but is very traditional, like [name_m]John[/name_m].
[name_m]Frederick[/name_m] nn [name_m]Fred[/name_m]: A longer name, but with one of the coolest retro nicknames ever. I love the strong consonant sounds and the distinguished, classic feel.
Other ideas: [name_m]Calvin[/name_m] nn [name_u]Cal[/name_u], [name_m]Daniel[/name_m] nn [name_m]Dan[/name_m], [name_m]Henry[/name_m], [name_m]Oliver[/name_m] nn [name_u]Ollie[/name_u], [name_m]Theodore[/name_m] nn [name_u]Theo[/name_u] (one of my favorites!), and [name_m]Miles[/name_m].

Girls:
[name_f]Ivy[/name_f]: If you like [name_f]Lucy[/name_f] and [name_u]Vivian[/name_u], what about [name_f]Ivy[/name_f]? It’s short, sweet, classic, and tailored, with a “y” ending, just like [name_f]Lucy[/name_f], and shares the “v” sound with [name_u]Vivian[/name_u]. All of this is packed into just three short letters. Two other short, classic, stunning “I” names are [name_f]Irene[/name_f] and [name_f]Iris[/name_f]. A similar name: [name_f]Adele[/name_f].
[name_f]Catherine[/name_f] nn [name_f]Cate[/name_f] or [name_f]Cat[/name_f]/[name_f]Katherine[/name_f] nn [name_f]Kate[/name_f] or [name_f]Katie[/name_f]: Whenever I see [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], I am immediately reminded of this regal, elegant classic. It has a plethora of short, spunky nickname options, and suits your style so well. It combines many of the sounds of [name_f]Clara[/name_f] with the feel of [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f]. Another thought: [name_f]Caroline[/name_f] nn [name_f]Carrie[/name_f] or [name_f]Carol[/name_f].
[name_u]Marian[/name_u] nn [name_f]Annie[/name_f] or [name_f]Ann[/name_f]: If you like [name_f]Mary[/name_f] but cannot use it, what about [name_u]Marian[/name_u]? It has that sophisticated, classic feel like [name_f]Julia[/name_f], and the nickname [name_f]Annie[/name_f] reminds me of the spunky [name_f]Julia[/name_f]. Another thought: [name_f]Anna[/name_f]!
[name_f]Jane[/name_f]: This could possibly be my favorite to you. Like [name_f]Mary[/name_f], it is the epitome of tailored, simple, feminine sophistication. It is a one-syllable classic. It has the shortness and “n” of [name_f]Gwen[/name_f], and the “J” of [name_f]Julia[/name_f]. [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], [name_m]John[/name_m], and [name_f]Jane[/name_f] sound exactly like siblings without being too matchy.
[name_f]Ruth[/name_f]: This name is such a gem, and I would love to see it used for a little girl. It’s very vintage, with lots of history and weight, just like [name_f]Mary[/name_f]. At only one syllable, it certainly fits the short criteria. [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], [name_m]John[/name_m], and [name_f]Ruth[/name_f] make a stunning sibset.
[name_f]Vera[/name_f]: The names you like tend to have a lot of tradition and weight, and [name_f]Vera[/name_f] certainly qualifies. It has a great meaning, classic status, and never goes out of style. It has the “v” of [name_u]Vivian[/name_u] and the “a” ending of [name_f]Julia[/name_f], but is more tailored than both.
[name_f]Margaret[/name_f] nn [name_f]Margo[/name_f], [name_f]Greta[/name_f], [name_f]Mara[/name_f], [name_f]Maggie[/name_f]…: [name_f]Margaret[/name_f] is just as feminine and refined as [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], with a treasure trove of nickname options. It’s a sophisticated, meaningful choice. [name_f]Margot[/name_f] could also make a great given name.
[name_f]Sarah[/name_f] nn [name_f]Sadie[/name_f]: If you can’t use [name_f]Clara[/name_f], what about the similar-sounding, equally classic [name_f]Sarah[/name_f]?
[name_f]Helen[/name_f] nn [name_f]Elle[/name_f] or [name_f]Ellie[/name_f]: I think [name_f]Helen[/name_f] is tailored enough that it doesn’t necessarily need a nickname, but you certainly have options. [name_f]Helen[/name_f] is one of the most beautiful, vibrant classic names out there, and shares the “n” ending with several of your favorites. [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], [name_m]John[/name_m], and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] is one of my favorite combos.
[name_f]Rachel[/name_f] Rach or [name_u]Rae[/name_u]: [name_f]Rachel[/name_f] is such a gorgeous name, and it has the “l” from many of your favorite names. Classic and refined.
[name_f]Josephine[/name_f] nn [name_u]Josie[/name_u]: I recommended [name_m]Joseph[/name_m] for a boy, and now I must recommend its equally classic, stylish counterpart for a girl. [name_f]Josephine[/name_f] is elegant, long, and feminine, like [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], but has the “J” sound as well. [name_f]Betsy[/name_f] and [name_u]Josie[/name_u] are spunky, lively sisters.
Other ideas: [name_f]Alice[/name_f], [name_f]Norah[/name_f], [name_f]Lydia[/name_f], [name_f]Audrey[/name_f], [name_f]Eve[/name_f].

From your list I like [name_u]Vivian[/name_u] and [name_m]Walter[/name_m] best with your sibset.

[name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f]/[name_f]Betsy[/name_f], [name_m]John[/name_m]/[name_m]Jack[/name_m], and

[name_f]Annabel[/name_f]/[name_f]Annie[/name_f]
[name_f]Caroline[/name_f]/[name_f]Carrie[/name_f]
[name_f]Constance[/name_f]/[name_u]Connie[/name_u]
[name_f]Dorothy[/name_f] or [name_f]Dorothea[/name_f]/[name_f]Dottie[/name_f]/[name_u]Dory[/name_u]/[name_f]Dolly[/name_f]
[name_f]Felicity[/name_f]/[name_f]Flick[/name_f]/[name_f]Lissie[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f]/[name_u]Frannie[/name_u]
[name_f]Georgina[/name_f]/[name_f]Gigi[/name_f]/[name_u]Georgie[/name_u]
[name_f]Helena[/name_f]/[name_f]Nell[/name_f]
[name_f]Jane[/name_f]/[name_f]Janie[/name_f]
[name_f]Josephine[/name_f]/[name_u]Josie[/name_u]
[name_f]Katherine[/name_f]/[name_f]Kate[/name_f]
[name_f]Louisa[/name_f]/[name_u]Lou[/name_u]
[name_f]Margaret[/name_f]/[name_f]Maggie[/name_f]/[name_f]Meg[/name_f]/[name_f]Peggy[/name_f]
[name_f]Mary[/name_f]/[name_f]Molly[/name_f]
[name_f]Millicent[/name_f]/[name_f]Millie[/name_f]
[name_f]Patricia[/name_f]/[name_f]Pattie[/name_f]/[name_f]Trish[/name_f]
[name_f]Pauline[/name_f]/[name_f]Polly[/name_f]
[name_f]Penelope[/name_f]/[name_u]Penny[/name_u]
[name_f]Philippa[/name_f]/[name_f]Pippa[/name_f]
[name_f]Rose[/name_f] or [name_f]Rosemary[/name_f]/[name_f]Rosie[/name_f]
[name_f]Sarah[/name_f]/[name_f]Sally[/name_f]
[name_f]Susannah[/name_f]/[name_f]Susie[/name_f]
[name_f]Tabitha[/name_f]/[name_f]Tabby[/name_f]
[name_f]Veronica[/name_f]/[name_u]Ronnie[/name_u]/[name_f]Nica[/name_f]/[name_f]Vera[/name_f]
[name_f]Winifred[/name_f]/[name_f]Winnie[/name_f]

[name_m]Alfred[/name_m]/[name_u]Alfie[/name_u]/[name_m]Fred[/name_m]
[name_m]Andrew[/name_m]/[name_u]Andy[/name_u]/[name_u]Drew[/name_u]
[name_m]Arthur[/name_m]/[name_m]Art[/name_m]
[name_m]Charles[/name_m]/[name_u]Charlie[/name_u]
[name_m]David[/name_m]/[name_m]Dave[/name_m]
[name_m]Daniel[/name_m]/[name_m]Dan[/name_m]
[name_u]Douglas[/name_u]/[name_m]Doug[/name_m]
[name_m]Edward[/name_m]/[name_m]Eddie[/name_m]/[name_m]Ned[/name_m]/Ted/[name_m]Ward[/name_m]
[name_u]Francis[/name_u]/[name_m]Frank[/name_m]
[name_m]Frederick[/name_m]/[name_m]Fred[/name_m]
[name_m]Gabriel[/name_m]/[name_m]Gabe[/name_m]
[name_m]Henry[/name_m]/[name_m]Harry[/name_m]
[name_m]Kenneth[/name_m]/[name_m]Ken[/name_m]
[name_u]Lawrence[/name_u]/[name_m]Larry[/name_m]
[name_m]Leon[/name_m] or [name_m]Leopold[/name_m]/[name_m]Leo[/name_m]
[name_m]Matthew[/name_m] or [name_m]Matthias[/name_m]/[name_m]Matt[/name_m]
[name_m]Mitchell[/name_m]/[name_m]Mitch[/name_m]
Orwell/[name_u]Orrie[/name_u]
[name_m]Randolph[/name_m]/[name_m]Ralph[/name_m]
[name_m]Robert[/name_m]/[name_m]Rob[/name_m]
[name_m]Patrick[/name_m]/[name_u]Pat[/name_u]
[name_m]Peter[/name_m]/[name_m]Pete[/name_m]
[name_m]Philip[/name_m]/[name_m]Pip[/name_m]
[name_m]Samuel[/name_m]/[name_u]Sam[/name_u]
[name_m]Simon[/name_m]/[name_u]Si[/name_u]
[name_m]Stephen[/name_m]/[name_m]Steve[/name_m]
[name_m]Stewart[/name_m] or [name_m]Stuart[/name_m]/[name_m]Stu[/name_m]/[name_m]Art[/name_m]
[name_m]Thomas[/name_m]/[name_m]Tom[/name_m]
[name_m]Timothy[/name_m]/[name_m]Tim[/name_m]
[name_m]Tobias[/name_m]/[name_u]Toby[/name_u]
[name_m]Vincent[/name_m]/[name_m]Vin[/name_m]
[name_u]Wallace[/name_u]/[name_u]Wallie[/name_u]
[name_m]Wesley[/name_m]/[name_m]Wes[/name_m]
[name_m]William[/name_m]/[name_m]Will[/name_m]

My favourites are
[name_u]Vivian[/name_u] & [name_m]Walter[/name_m]
I like nn [name_f]Evie[/name_f] for [name_u]Vivian[/name_u]

Your first two children have such all-time classic names. My suggestion for you would be to follow the theme. I could imagine…

[name_f]Eliz[/name_f]@beth ([name_f]Bet[/name_f]$y), J0hn (J@ck) and…

[name_f]Katherine[/name_f] ([name_f]Kate[/name_f], [name_u]Kit[/name_u], [name_u]Kass[/name_u])
[name_f]Catherine[/name_f] ([name_f]Cassie[/name_f], [name_f]Cate[/name_f])
[name_f]Margaret[/name_f] ([name_f]Margo[/name_f], [name_f]Meg[/name_f], [name_f]Maggie[/name_f], [name_f]Margie[/name_f])

[name_m]Charles[/name_m] ([name_u]Charlie[/name_u], [name_m]Chas[/name_m], [name_m]Chuck[/name_m])
[name_m]William[/name_m] ([name_m]Liam[/name_m], [name_m]Will[/name_m], [name_m]Bill[/name_m], [name_u]Billy[/name_u])
[name_m]Edward[/name_m] ([name_m]Ned[/name_m])
[name_u]James[/name_u] ([name_u]Jem[/name_u], [name_u]Jamie[/name_u])
[name_m]Robert[/name_m] ([name_u]Robbie[/name_u], [name_m]Rob[/name_m])
[name_m]Thomas[/name_m] ([name_m]Thom[/name_m]. [name_m]Tommy[/name_m])
[name_m]Samuel[/name_m] ([name_u]Sam[/name_u])

Thank you all for your lovely and thoughtful responses. So many great classic names. Appreciate your help!

From your list I really like [name_u]Dean[/name_u] and [name_f]Julia[/name_f].

Some other ideas:

[name_f]Ruth[/name_f]
[name_f]Caroline[/name_f]
[name_f]Lena[/name_f]/[name_f]Lina[/name_f]
[name_f]Sarah[/name_f]
[name_f]Alice[/name_f]
[name_u]Ruby[/name_u]
[name_f]Bonnie[/name_f]
[name_f]Annaliese[/name_f]

[name_m]Henry[/name_m]
[name_m]Edmund[/name_m]
[name_m]Arthur[/name_m]
[name_u]James[/name_u]
[name_m]Philip[/name_m]
[name_m]Oscar[/name_m]
[name_m]Andrew[/name_m]
[name_m]Peter[/name_m]

I like [name_m]Walter[/name_m] or [name_u]Vivian[/name_u]

[name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] ([name_f]Betsy[/name_f]), [name_m]John[/name_m] ([name_m]Jack[/name_m]) &

[name_f]Muriel[/name_f] ([name_f]Molly[/name_f] or [name_f]Minnie[/name_f])
[name_f]Adelaide[/name_f]
[name_f]Bernadette[/name_f] (Birdy)
[name_f]Dorothy[/name_f] ([name_f]Dot[/name_f])
[name_f]Mildred[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalyn[/name_f]
[name_f]Penelope[/name_f]
[name_f]Imogen[/name_f]
[name_f]Victoria[/name_f]
[name_f]Edith[/name_f] ([name_f]Edda[/name_f])

[name_m]Harvey[/name_m] (Harv or [name_m]Hal[/name_m])
[name_m]Milton[/name_m]
[name_m]Edwin[/name_m]
[name_u]Everett[/name_u]
[name_m]Andrew[/name_m]
[name_m]Samuel[/name_m]
[name_m]Leroy[/name_m] ([name_u]Roy[/name_u])
[name_m]Rupert[/name_m] ([name_u]Roy[/name_u])
[name_m]Benjamin[/name_m]