Axing Leopold

So for months now [name_m]Leopold[/name_m] had been my top middle name choice for first name [name_m]Viridian[/name_m], one of only 2 names on our short list for another boy.

But I just learned about the horrific legacy of [name_m]Leopold[/name_m] II of Belgium (seriously why did I not learn about this guy in school?) And it has totally ruined the name for me. I know some folks can separate a name from a negative association but this is one I definitely can’t shake. (If feels on par with Adolf for me at this point.)

We still have Meadowlark as a possibility, which is my partner’s favorite and I love it as well, but I wonder if a color name and bird name together is a bit too hippy-ish?

Also considering:
Ambrose
Winslow
Isidore (Isadora is my top pick for a girl right now but if we have another boy I won’t get to use it, so this is a strong contender despite it’s matchiness with my first son’s middle, Theodore.)

Anyone else ever have an otherwise lovely name ruined by an ugly association?

Any ideas for a middle for [name_m]Viridian[/name_m]? Ideally 3 syllables but can work with two.

Names that are great but won’t work for us:
Leonidas
Marius (most -as and -us endings, though there are a few that are workable.)
Archibald (really any name that starts with Ar-)
Olivier (love but there’s already some pretty heavy use of Olivia among his cousins as both a first and middle.)

In sorry [name_m]Leopold[/name_m]'s been ruined - a shame but sometimes you can’t shake an association, right?

I do like Meadowlark, but I’m not sure on it with [name_m]Viridian[/name_m]. It’s a little much for me.

[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Leonidas[/name_m] maybe?
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Cornelius[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Olivier[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Barnabas[/name_m]/[name_m]Barnaby[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Cassius[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] Kestrel/[name_m]Kester[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Forrester[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Percival[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Lysander[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Chester[/name_m]

I’ve had this problem alot with names! Mainly because my own name has a horrible meaning, and I want to choose names for my future children that they’ll love.

[name_m]Viridian[/name_m]…

[name_m]Balthazar[/name_m]
[name_m]Percival[/name_m]
[name_m]Claudius[/name_m]
[name_m]Salvador[/name_m]
Barnadas
[name_m]Timothy[/name_m]
[name_m]Benedict[/name_m]
[name_m]Ebenezer[/name_m]
[name_m]Mortimer[/name_m]
[name_u]Willoughby[/name_u]
[name_m]Chancelor[/name_m]
[name_m]Cornelius[/name_m]
Hollander
[name_m]Eliezer[/name_m]
[name_u]Constantine[/name_u]
[name_m]Sylvester[/name_m]
[name_m]Leandros[/name_m]
[name_m]Marcellus[/name_m] / Marsalis
[name_u]Lawrence[/name_u]
[name_m]Orpheus[/name_m]
[name_m]Reginald[/name_m]
[name_m]Zephyrus[/name_m]
[name_m]Beauregard[/name_m]

So sad, [name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Leopold[/name_m] is gorgeous. [name_m]Viridian[/name_m] Meadowlark is a bit much for me. What about…
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Irving[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Alfred[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Bernard[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Milton[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_u]Murray[/name_u]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Ellsworth[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_u]Lawrence[/name_u]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Everhart[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Abelard[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Eduard[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Melchior[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Isidore[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Immanuel[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Barthelemy[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Amadeo[/name_m]

Thought of some more…

[name_m]Commodore[/name_m]
[name_u]Demetris[/name_u]
[name_m]Ricardoe[/name_m]
[name_m]Fitzsimmons[/name_m]
[name_m]Bladimir[/name_m]
[name_m]Galileo[/name_m]
[name_m]Montague[/name_m]
[name_m]Gallagher[/name_m]
[name_u]Carlisle[/name_u]
[name_m]Gregory[/name_m]
Murdoch

[name_m]Leopold[/name_m] is a nice name. I know it is easier said than done, but I would try not to have a name be spoiled by a negative association, unless it is a too obvious one (e.g. [name_m]Adolf[/name_m] or Osama). I don’t think many people are aware of [name_m]Leopold[/name_m] II. You can probably find negative things about most names. For example, the name [name_m]Adrian[/name_m] goes back to the [name_m]Roman[/name_m] empire [name_m]Hadrian[/name_m], who had planned a genocide to wipe out the Jews because they were giving the [name_m]Roman[/name_m] occupiers a very hard time. Nevertheless, [name_m]Adrian[/name_m] is a nice name and hardly anybody thinks of genocide or antisemitism when they hear the name.

I appreciate everyone’s feedback!
I understand a lot of names can be removed from certain associations, but this is one I really can’t shake.

I love a lot.of the suggestions so far! Definitely giving me some new inspiration.

I adore [name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Leonidas[/name_m] :slight_smile:

[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Ambrose[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Ignatius[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Alexander[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Septimus[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Amadeus[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Mordecai[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Lazarus[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Marius[/name_m]
[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Archibald[/name_m]

Thanks for your suggestions! [name_m]Leonidas[/name_m] sadly doesn’t work well with our surname, but it’s a great name! [name_m]Marius[/name_m] and [name_m]Lazarus[/name_m] don’t work either. Technically [name_m]Amadeus[/name_m] and [name_m]Ignatius[/name_m] are a little repetitive with our surname too , but I would consider them more workable!

Our son’s nickname is Achie so that eliminates [name_m]Archibald[/name_m] as a middle name too.

[name_m]Ambrose[/name_m] is one I’ve toyed with so much! I’ll have to consider it again and see if I fall in love this time.

In case you like to keep the “[name_m]Leo[/name_m]” part, there are a few nice names other than Leopld:
[name_u]Lionel[/name_u] or [name_m]Leonel[/name_m] (a name we are currently considering for our boy)
[name_m]Leonhard[/name_m] ([name_m]German[/name_m] version of [name_m]Leonard[/name_m])
And of course the more common [name_m]Leo[/name_m] and [name_m]Leon[/name_m].

Sometimes you just cannot shake an association - it’s even more disappointing when it’s an all-time favourite. Sorry you have to let go of [name_m]Leopold[/name_m].

I am a beg fan of [name_m]Ambrose[/name_m] myself, so I’m definitely loving the idea of [name_f]Veridian[/name_f] [name_m]Ambrose[/name_m], but other ideas (many of these on my own long list)…

[name_u]Constantine[/name_u]
[name_u]Bellamy[/name_u]
[name_m]Ragnar[/name_m]
[name_m]Peregrine[/name_m]
[name_m]Amias[/name_m]
[name_m]Hawthorne[/name_m]
Emeric
[name_u]Roscoe[/name_u]
Freyr
[name_m]Maximilian[/name_m]
[name_m]Osiris[/name_m]
Niklaus
[name_m]Dashiell[/name_m]
[name_m]Balthasar[/name_m]
[name_m]Lysander[/name_m]
[name_u]Taliesin[/name_u]
[name_m]Jupiter[/name_m]
[name_m]Casimir[/name_m]
[name_u]Willoughby[/name_u]
[name_m]Apollo[/name_m]
[name_m]Seraphim[/name_m]
[name_m]Caspian[/name_m]
[name_f]Hyacinth[/name_f]
Mithras
[name_m]Cosmo[/name_m]

[name_m]Viridian[/name_m] [name_m]Ambrose[/name_m] would be smashing.

Oh [name_m]Casimir[/name_m] and [name_u]Bellamy[/name_u] are both lovely choices with [name_m]Viridian[/name_m]!