Birdie - Bertie?

When you hear the name [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] spoken, does it sound like [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] to you?

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To me personally, [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] is so so sweet, but [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] is not.

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I can sometimes forget that written words/names can sound different (or the exact same!) to people, so I’m curious if people would mistake [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] for Bertie/Burtie upon introduction.

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What’s your opinion?

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They do sound identical in my accent, however I would assume [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] over [name_m]Bertie[/name_m].

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No, they don’t sound the same in my accent.

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[name_f]Birdie[/name_f] is softer all round, whereas both syllables of [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] are more pronounced and the ‘tee’ sound sounds different to the ‘dee’.

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I can imagine them sometimes being confused but they nevertheless sound different to me

Its very close but not 100% the same, I’m not sure how to describe it but [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] sounds like [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] and [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] sounds a bit like [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] so I wouldn’t mistake [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] for anything else and might mistake [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] for [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] if that makes any sense.
[name_f][/name_f]So if [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] is the goal I think you’re all good.

They sound the exact same in my accent, but depending on the gender of the person, I would assume one over the other. (I.e., if it were a masculine-presenting person, I would assume I heard “Bertie,” but if it were a feminine-presenting person, I would assume “Birdie.” Not sure if that’s helpful, sorry!)

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Not to me! I feel like Ts sounding like Ds is mostly an American (and maybe Canadian) thing? If for some reason I couldn’t tell what the name was, I’d assume Birdie.

To me, they sound differently

They sound slightly different to me – [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] has a harder “ert” sound, while [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] feels softer and less emphasized, if that makes any sense?

Yes, they sound the exact same in my accent. I am in the midwest US if it matters. Sorry.

For added context, I’m from Atlantic [name_f]Canada[/name_f].
[name_f][/name_f]They sound the same in my accent, unless I’m consciously enunciating the “t” in [name_m]Bertie[/name_m]. If I heard someone else with my accent saying either name I would likely depend on context clues (age & gender) to assume which name they meant (again, unless they were enunciating the “t”, which is pretty uncommon here in a casual setting).

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I really like both names, so it wouldn’t sway me personally, but if it’s something you’re worried about, I would really only worry about local pronunciations.

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It is very much a Canadian thing as well :sweat_smile:[name_f][/name_f] Especially in the atlantic provinces. We seem to have a strange relationship with the letter T country wide, we completely ignore the second one in “Toronto”.

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Thanks for the info! I did know it was a thing in the Atlantic provinces (my best friend is from Newfoundland and she likes to half-jokingly spell the word “mother” as “mudder” :sweat_smile:) but I wasn’t sure about the rest of [name_f]Canada[/name_f]!

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They do sound nearly completely identical, but I would not think of [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] if I met a [name_f]Birdie[/name_f], and I’d never think of [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] if I met a [name_f]Birdie[/name_f]. They’re very seperate names to me, unless I was looking for a really stretchy honor for a [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] or [name_f]Birdie[/name_f].

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Same here! They’re almost identical, but since [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] is more common to me, I’d probably assume [name_f]Birdie[/name_f]

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They sound slightly different, but not distinct enough to be distinguishable in my accent.

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In fact I’ve always assumed [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] came from [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] as most historical records I’ve seen has [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] listed as a nickname for [name_f]Alberta[/name_f] or [name_f]Bernadette[/name_f]. And it was so common to change spellings/ spell phonetically

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You’re welcome! :grin:

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Haha, I was going to mention that one! That’s specific to the Newfoundlander accent/vernacular, but we share a lot of similarities.

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I’m [name_f]Nova[/name_f] Scotian, and something I find fun is that even though our provinces are close by, our accents have different origins. They’re derived from where the most settling immigrants were coming from, so southern [name_f]Ireland[/name_f] for Newfoundland, and the Scottish lowlands for [name_f]Nova[/name_f] [name_f]Scotia[/name_f].

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(I don’t mean to hijack this post, but I love linguistics and have a background in Canadian immigration archives :sweat_smile:)

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[name_f]Birdie[/name_f] and [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] are similar, but they have a distinct energy and tone. I can understand why they could be confused sometimes. However, I believe most people associate them with different genders, which reduces the odds of misunderstandings.
[name_f][/name_f][name_f]Birdie[/name_f] is soft, sweet, gentle and friendly.
[name_f][/name_f][name_m]Bertie[/name_m] is cute, vintage, and charming, but also a bit heavy. I think the “ert” sound is clearly noticeable.

They do sound nearly identical to my ear, but if it was a girl, I would assume [name_f]Birdie[/name_f], not [name_m]Bertie[/name_m]. [name_f][/name_f] Likewise, for a boy I would assume [name_m]Bertie[/name_m], not [name_f]Birdie[/name_f]? [name_f][/name_f] I love both but prefer [name_f]Birdie[/name_f] for a girl and [name_m]Bertie[/name_m] for a boy. [name_f][/name_f] I guess there’s a chance that people would think Bertie… but that seems easily corrected to me?