Cleveland and Packard - So out it's in or just plain out?

So I’ve been playing a lot of bitlife recently and when you have a baby you have the choice to randomize the names which how I found these two. I think they sound really handsome and distinguished and preppy (which is my style sweet spot) but do you think they’re pretentious or just too out there.

[name_m]Cleveland[/name_m]: Could work in hipster circles. Why not if [name_m]Boston[/name_m] and Chicago are in.

[name_m]Packard[/name_m]: I would avoid anything containing “pack”

[name_m]Cleveland[/name_m] seems usable, though my first thought is [name_m]Cleveland[/name_m] [name_m]Brown[/name_m] from Family [name_m]Guy[/name_m], and the president [name_m]Grover[/name_m] [name_m]Cleveland[/name_m]. It seems on point with the Presidential surnames and place names.

I’m not sure [name_m]Packard[/name_m] is usable, it sort of reminds me of someone saying Greenbay Packers to quickly.

[name_m]Cleveland[/name_m]–yes! I am not sure about [name_m]Packard[/name_m].

[name_m]Cleveland[/name_m] could maybe work, but certainly not [name_m]Packard[/name_m].

[name_m]Cleveland[/name_m] is way too Family [name_m]Guy[/name_m].

I grew-up in a suburb of [name_m]Cleveland[/name_m]. I definitely would not use [name_m]Cleveland[/name_m]. I just picture a rather small, rather dingy city that has quite a bit of crime and murder. Not too fond of [name_m]Packard[/name_m] either. I do not particularly like the look or sound and I immediately thought of [name_m]Hewlett[/name_m]-[name_m]Packard[/name_m]. Sorry.