I’ve been loving this combo, but I’m afraid people might think of the Black Dahlia murder. I only found out about this connection because of the comments on BtN, but it’s a pretty dark story - and if you google “[name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f],” this is the first thing you get! (The victim’s name was [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] Short.)
[name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elisabeth[/name_f] (different spelling) solves that problem, but I still wouldn’t want people to think of murder/death when hearing my little girl’s full name.
I also like [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f], but I’m not sure it works with our surname - the first syllable sounds like “Wor/Whirr,” so it’s a bit awkward to say. Think “[name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f] [name_m]Warden[/name_m].”
What do you think? Did anyone’s mind go to the murder?
If I saw the name [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elisabeth[/name_f] written down on its own, I probably wouldn’t think of the [name_m]Black[/name_m] [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f], but looking at the word “morbid” in the thread title, I knew what you were talking about before I’ve read the post.
Some might recall [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] Short because her murder was recently mentioned in one of the American Horror [name_u]Story[/name_u] episodes, but I think most people won’t make the connection.
I prefer [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f], though. I actually think it sounds cool with your surname!
I’m going to say yes. [name_m]Even[/name_m] if a lot of people don’t make the connection, some will and then it might be awkward. That said, many people don’t even know other people’s middle names so that’s something to consider. Anyway, there are many other names out there. [name_u]Love[/name_u] the suggestion of [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f].
I’m familiar with the [name_m]Black[/name_m] [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] murder and even know that the victim’s name was [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] Short but still — I did not make the connection by your subject line. I think, don’t worry about it. [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] reminds of the flower! [name_u]Bright[/name_u], fresh and beautiful. And [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] has plenty more history to it than [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] Short’s untimely death.
I would not have recalled on my own that her name was [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], and younger people seem to know less and less about this, so it may become a dated reference. That said, [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] is going to carry the association with or without [name_f]Elisabeth[/name_f]… I think it is a beautiful combo.
Smart lady to be thinking of what the first Google hits are when you type in a name. I’m serious. I agree with the PP that I wouldn’t have thought of the association myself, but once I saw “morbid” I remembered exactly what it was. I also agree that if people are going to think [name_m]Black[/name_m] [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f], they’ll get there with or without the [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f]. For people who will not associate the murder with [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f], they won’t with [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elisabeth[/name_f] either.
[name_m]Both[/name_m] versions are gorgeous. I don’t see a huge issue with either the [name_m]Black[/name_m] [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] thing or with the repeating sound of [name_f]Elinor[/name_f] with your last name. I might like [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f] a touch more because I like the shorter middle, but gosh… they’re really both great!
Well, I am a morbid person. In my free time (when I am not looking at baby names) I read about serial killers and unsolved murders. Plus, [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] Short was my boyfriends grandmother’s mother’s cousin or something like that, so his grandma told me about the [name_m]Black[/name_m] [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] case from a personal perspective, she even has a family picture with her. So yes, it was my first thought, but I am not a normal person. None of this changes how beautiful a name it is, though, it just gives the name a little history.
[name_f]My[/name_f] mind goes there just with the name [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f]. I’m not sure using [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] or [name_f]Elisabeth[/name_f] as a middle name makes much of a difference because most people won’t even know her middle name so if their minds go there it won’t be for the middle name. I didn’t even remember her real name, actually. I don’t think you should let the reference stop you from using it though, The [name_m]Black[/name_m] [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] is a pretty old murder so younger people won’t even think of it and with it being the name of a flower also I think you have enough reason for people not to think you named her because of it.
Like polina, the only thing that tipped me off of the world morbid. I think you’d have to be quite a crime buff to remember her name. So go for [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f]!
I prefer [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elisabeth[/name_f]/[name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] over [name_f]Elinor[/name_f], and like pps, my mind only jumped to the murder because of the word “morbid.” I would say that most people I know would not make the connection, and even those who do are capable of separating the history from the beautiful flower.
I’m happy to see a fellow [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] lover! Personally, I like [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f] best. I think it flows well
I was aware of the murder and the victim’s name, but it didn’t even cross my mind until I opened your thread. I wouldn’t worry much about it. I can’t imagine a time when someone would google just someone’s first and middle names, and most of the time she’d go by just her first/surname, right?
I think anyone who associates the name with the murder would do so just based on [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] and the middle name wouldn’t make much of a difference, so I’d just use whichever name you prefer best as a middle.
[name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elisabeth[/name_f] is a beautiful name! While I think it is smart to take name associations into consideration, more times than not even a negative association can be disregarded. For example, while I wouldn’t name my son Hitler, I could get over the association with a serial killer and name him [name_m]Theodore[/name_m] “[name_m]Ted[/name_m].”
The majority of people you come across will likely have only heard of the [name_m]Black[/name_m] [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] in passing. I don’t think it’s a big deal. Also, if it makes it feel any less morbid for you, [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] Short went by [name_f]Beth[/name_f] so [name_f]Elisabeth[/name_f] is even further removed than just the spelling change.
I like [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f] too though.
