Dealing with disapproval re family size or age gap

[name_m]Hi[/name_m] all,

I was wondering if any of you have had to deal with your family, or someone close to you, openly disapproving of how soon you became pregnant after having a baby or with how many children you decided to have. We have four children, all about 18m apart. I would really like to have one more to completely our family. My parents, and my mom in particular, has been very vocally negative about each pregnancy other than the first one. She loves all the kids now, but would repeatedly volunteer her opinion that we would get pregnant too soon and are having waaay too many kids. I have no issue standing my ground with her and have told her on numerous occasions that this decision is mine and my husband’s alone. Still, the negative talk has been growing in volume with each pregnancy and I’m dreading going through it for nine months again if/when I get pregnant with the much wanted fifth baby. In addition to my mom, my dad, inlaws, and many other family members are also baffled by our decision to have so many kids so close together, but my mom is the only one who really speaks negatively to me about it. (I should mention that we are in a position to support all our kids and don’t ask for any resources from anyone. We always appreciate it when my parents or inlaws want to help out with the kids, but we are not counting on/ expecting any help from anyone.) I find the whole situation to be very frustrating and it’s such a contrast with all of my friends whose only reaction to every pregnancy and birth has been “Yay! Congrats!”. I wish our families felt the same way… Has anyone been in a similar situation? I would love to hear your stories/ commiserate.

Thanks!
[name_f]Anna[/name_f]

My friend went through this exact same thing but with her FIL. He mostly believed in having one child so with each subsequent kid (she currently pregnant with her fourth) his attitude has gotten worse. What she and her husband ended up doing with this pregnancy was not even tell him and let him find out through other family members that she is expecting. I’m not sure if that’s what you want to do but maybe it would help get your point across? I would just shut her down whenever your mother brings it up, before she even finishes the sentence. “Not your household, not your business”.

I’m going through this with my dad. He wonders why we would want a third child, but I just firmly remind him that DH and I have decided together to add one more child to our brood. I also point out that his life experience isn’t mine, and that I am well aware of the potential stress that comes with having more kids.

Wow, I’m sorry for your difficulty. It’s nobody’s business but your own. Might be harsh, but tell your mother to stop her negative talk if she wants to continue to be a part of your kids lives. Ask her, [name_m]How[/name_m] would they feel if the found out their grandmother didn’t want them to be born?

We’ve dealt with stuff slightly similar to what you’re saying. We’ve been trying to have our first child for couple of years now and that’s gotten all sorts of comments. My FIL and some on his side think we are too young and that it is too soon. My mom and [name_f]MIL[/name_f] are upset that it is taking this long. My [name_m]SIL[/name_m] told me to my face that children ruin lives. Everyone has an opinion on what they feel is best for our family and the size of our family. We’ve taken a piece of advice from friends of ours, who have 4 kids all around 2 years apart and who are fielding nasty comments themselves: tell whoever pokes their nose into your business that whatever decisions you make are between you and your partner, regardless of what they think is right. It may not shut them up, but it is a reminder of where they stand.

Good luck. Family can really suck sometimes.

Thanks, guys. I really appreciate your comments.

@jensowvlen and @namegirl3 – I am sorry you are going through this right now. [name_m]Even[/name_m] though you know its your and your partner’s decision and not anyone else’s, it’s still hard not to be brought down by negative comments from family, especially about something so important and so personal… If I ever do get pregnant again, I might wait longer until announcing it, although that only delays the inevitable… I am also terrified of all the “I told you so” and “why did you have to go and ruin it all” comments that will come pouring down for years to come if a pregnancy/birth/anything with the baby doesn’t go well. It feel like when I had one child, and was having trouble with anything, my family would sympathize with how hard kids can be. But now that I have four (and, really, ever since we had two, but especially now that we have four), if anything isn’t going smoothly, the general reaction from my mom is that that’s what I get for having so many kiddos. We have such a good relationship otherwise, it’s really disappointing.

I really think people need to be reminded that their comments are rude, rude, rude. [name_m]Even[/name_m] though I personally do not understand why there are still women who choose to have 4+ babies, as someone who supports women’s reproductive rights I respect their decision to do so. I would never comment on someone’s family size unless the children weren’t being cared for properly (and I’m sure yours are loved and cared for).

Sorry to hear of all the difficulty you’re dealing with!

I personally haven’t had to deal with this topic (though my parents were NOT thrilled with how soon my partner and I got pregnant after we started dating). However, two of my older sisters got the same sort of backlash from our parents and friends. When it came down to parents, they just pointed at all of us (our parents had 6 kids, each pair less than a year apart) as examples. For friends, they simply had a serious conversation stating that they didn’t want input in their family planning from them. It was hard at first, but both sisters now have 5 lovely children of their own with no negativity coming from people close to them.

@al.vy, just curious, but how long did you and your partner date before getting pregnant?

And I’m definitely not judging, btw. My husband and I met in Nov 2014 and our daughter was born 2 weeks before our one year dating anniversary.

Oh, [name_f]Anna[/name_f], you’d think your mother would understand by now that her input is unwelcome, and unlikely to change your mind! I’m sorry she’s still giving you grief over such personal matters.

My experience has been split - my parents were not exactly thrilled when I told them I was pregnant, while my partner’s parents were over the moon; both sets of grandparents-to-be were not great during the pregnancy but have been very involved and helpful since Reu’s birth; now they’re polar opposites on the subject of more grandkids.

When I told my mom that my partner and I were talking about trying to have a child “some time in the next year or so,” her first words were “[name_m]Just[/name_m] be sure that he’s the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, because it’s not good for the kids otherwise.” I was so angry and hurt by that - I felt that she was disrespecting my ability to make sound choices as a partner and as a would-be parent. She was overbearing all through my pregnancy and it made me batty! I wanted a lot of privacy because I was not enjoying pregnancy as much as everyone seemed to think I should be (myself included), and she had a hard time respecting the boundaries I tried to place and/or supporting me when I was dealing with a difficulty. She has been wonderful with my son since he was born (although, again, boundaries consistently need reestablishment). She has made it clear that she is happy with one grandchild, even as his second birthday comes up (my sister and I are two years apart). I think if I were to get pregnant again any time soon, she’d be similarly ambivalent about the news but great with the actual second grandkid. I do think it helps that my sister wants kids - there’s no pressure on me to “provide” all the grandchildren for my parents - but I wish my parents could be more excited for me to pursue/achieve a dream just because it’s important to me as a mother.

My partner’s parents were really excited, and I think it has a lot to do with the fact that he’s their only child and therefore their only route to grandkids. They have been joking about a big pack of grandkids since shortly after our son was born, saying things like “It’s worth investing in a car seat for our car because Reu will use it and maybe you’ll have eight or nine more kids after him!” (ha. ha. ha.). Any time my partner says anything that could be interpreted as a complaint about parenthood, they start in on how he always said he’d wanted siblings himself, and he swore he’d always have “at least three or four kids.” This can be a bit annoying, especially when it feels they’ve set us up for that by asking about teething, toilet-training, sleeping through the night, discipline, weaning - all the difficult things that go hand-in-hand with joyous parts of family life. They want to help us buy/build a new house, and are pushing us to go for a much larger house than we want, saying that “You might have more kids than you think right now, and you’ll want them all to have their own rooms,” which could be true - but we don’t need a five-bedroom house when the plan is to stop at two kids!

I don’t have any advice for you, other than to put this on repeat: “Our family planning is up to us, and not up for discussion. We appreciate all the love you’ve given the four children we do have, and we trust that you have enough love in your heart for another child, if there is to be one.”

It’s not the same as familial acceptance and congratulations, but, obviously the Berries are here for you.

@jensowvlen, we were only dating for about 3 months before getting pregnant (our twins are due right around our 1 year anniversary). We were friends before that, though, and had interest in dating one another in the past. [name_m]Even[/name_m] in such a short time, he’s made me wondrously happy. :slight_smile: