Does anyone else find the name trends alarming?

I know this will probably get backlash, but does anyone else find a lot of “names” that people are using or considering using silly and just unfair to the child who will have to bear it one day? Whenever I see how some ridiculous word like “Success” and “Superior”-- both of which I saw on a list here-- are actually given to babies; real people who will have their whole lives to feel ashamed and get teased and probably end up changing their names-- it just shocks and alarms me. And the fact that websites like this are encouraging parents to use words like these for their babies by posting lists of so called “popular baby girl names” where the number 1 name is “Luxury”… How do parents find it acceptable and not embarrassing to consider naming their daughter something like that? Not to mention it is deceiving that this list is titled “popular baby girl names”/“Top 2000 [name_u]Baby[/name_u] [name_f]Girl[/name_f] Names 2023”, implying that the names listed here are actually the most popular, when in reality, “Luxury” is not even in the top 2000 names and was apparently only given to 20 babies last year. This is deceiving parents by making it appear that names like this are in popular use and are therefore acceptable, real names. I’m not trying to say something against this website, and I really enjoy using it because I’ve always found names and lists fascinating, but I’m just kind of horrified at the names real adults are considering for their children. [name_f]Do[/name_f] they not realize their child is not a pet or a toy? I’m only 18 and haven’t had children, yet I’m already sure I want to use real, established names that my future children can feel happy with their entire lives. I get that a lot of people are just hypothetical and creating their own little fantasy/fairy worlds, but I also see an alarming amount of people on here talking about wanting to use these odd words for their real children… [name_m]Can[/name_m] anyone explain why this is even a thing and justify how it is acceptable to name a real human being a name that sounds like it’s for a toy?? Again, I’m not trying to be disrespectful, but am genuinely wondering.

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I honestly agree with you on words like “Success” or whatever, I feel like those create huge expectations for the person and if they don’t live up to them, it could potentially become a major source of teasing or even bullying. I was a bit concerned too when I saw the data, though thankfully most of those names were used relatively few times.

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I agree with [name_u]Luxury[/name_u]. Like how did that even become the trendiest name?! Sorry, but I don’t like it at all.

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I would guess that most people using this site to look up names are not yet naming babies. Also who wouldn’t click on [name_u]Luxury[/name_u] just to see if its really a name?? :joy:

I don’t think its a big deal really.

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You have to realize that different people have different opinions and different life experiences. I would much rather have a name like some of the crazier ones on my list—Kricket, Mosaic, [name_f]Glimmer[/name_f], Hero—than the name I have, which is a traditional name.

The beauty of seeing these names more is that the names are normalized. So kids will be used to seeing them and not think they’re weird. The names I remember being teased when I was younger were [name_m]Russell[/name_m], [name_u]Courtney[/name_u], [name_u]David[/name_u], [name_f]Rose[/name_f], and [name_m]Samuel[/name_m]. In every case, the name was the least of the problem. There were other reasons kids were teasing these kids, and in every case it was wrong and people should be teaching kids not to tease for any reason. [name_f]Do[/name_f] you know who weren’t teased for their names? A boy named McKenna, a girl named [name_u]Majesty[/name_u], and a girl who started high school and renamed herself Squirrel.

Sorry to say, but the bigger problem here are the people who are perpetuating a belief that certain names are “ridiculous” and are given by parents who are “setting their kids up to be teased.”

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When I see people’s out there UCs on nameberry, I usually assume they are just collecting for fun, so it never bothers me. But seeing the 2022 data come in is a bit more concerning to me. Like you said, people are actually naming their kids [name_f]Beautiful[/name_f] and [name_u]Perfect[/name_u] and stuff. It just isn’t an appropriate name for an actual child. I’m glad people can have fun with naming, and it is certainly something that can involve a lot of creativity, but there is a line that is sometimes crossed. Thankfully, names can be changed (even though it isn’t always easy).

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I think propriety is an interesting thing. What it is considered ‘appropriate’ to name someone varies greatly between different cultures. It’s not an absolute morality thing.

I think there is a danger to be unintentionally dismissive of cultures and styles that are different from our own. And to see our own style as superior, better, cleverer more proper.

In terms of word names/honour names for example in some cultures those are completely normal and not having a word name is weird. In some cultures naming a child ‘precious’ ‘beautiful’ ‘wisdom’ ‘Godwish’ ‘success’ ‘luxury’ is the hope to bestow those things on that child.

Historically in many cultures including [name_f]English[/name_f] speaking cultures all given names were word names. But now our language has evolved and our modern words are distant from the etymologies/and or due to incorporation of foreign names, this is no longer a typical custom.

In the bible for example all of the names are very based on the original word meanings - and those meanings were very important.

Personally I also struggle with several popular names - luxury, [name_m]Atticus[/name_m] (all I think of is attics), [name_u]Harper[/name_u] (and many more). But just because I don’t like them doesn’t mean that they are bad names or shouldn’t be used.

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I think @Etymology nails it. This kind of naming custom is very common in many places of the world (for example, Zimbabwe; see this interesting NYT article)

I find these names personally off-putting, but I think it’s important to have a level of cultural humility when discussing their use generally like this. There are still certain names that I think cross a line but I’d rather parents have freedom to choose rather than being constrained by government-mandated lists like in some other countries.

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But do you not find it stuck up and self centered to name your child “Amazing” or something?

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As outlined above, this isn’t a straightforward issue, involving overlapping and different blends of culture, classes (not just one), ethnicities (again, not just one) and nationality. My quick observation is that kids given word/virtue/aspirational names are in all likelihood going to be raised and surrounded by a number of kids with similar names - whether that be at a national level (eg Zimbabwe) or cultural (eg wealthy London interior designers; Californian celebs/musicians/sports stars/influencers etc) and of course any cousins and siblings.

I think it comes down to the parents’ good judgement of context (are they almost certainly going to be brutally teased or discriminated against?) and also intentions (for eg, and there are more egs of good reasoning, am I naming this child for my own branding/self-promotion/showing off/status or because I really love it; have hopes for this name for the good of the child; and/or because it’s culturally or personally meaningful etc?).

The other issue is what you want done about your distaste for and concern about these names - there’s education/soft regulation (involving you for eg writing an opinion piece in a top online newspaper; forming an interest group; lobbying name sites etc), or you’re otherwise looking at hard regulation - mandated lists enforced by the state (unduly oppressive?)…

Edit: also, I think any decent parent would help the child change their name at a certain point if it became clear it was distressing to or disadvantaging the child in a significant way.

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You can be mocked even if you have a somewhat normal name and let me tell you something shocking: Most of the times the worst comments come from your own family/acquaintances because they feel entitled to give unsolicited advice. [name_m]Even[/name_m] if you go for something straight up boring and traditional some people can and will dislike it
I think the bottom line should be respect regardless of the name and then, if the child is unhappy with their name, they can apply for a name change later on.
Unfortunately there is no such a thing as the “mock proof name”

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I agree that some name trends are. [name_f]My[/name_f] answer usually is - well you change your name to that then if it’s so appealing. If the answer is no… why not? Until you’re willing to wear it, don’t expect a child to.

You’re right in broad terms, and in ideal world everyone would be more accepting. But we don’t live in one, so would you want to be called [name_f]Bambi[/name_f], for instance? I wouldn’t.

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There’s nuance between wearing something that’s slightly off-kilter and wearing something downright burdensome. We all have a hardline somewhere, there will be no baby Adolfs, to use an extreme example.

I think with all due respect to everyone here, the issue is it isn’t about them and how they can best show their values and display their creativity, it’s about the child. That’s what people forget. Yes, we are all responsible for naming our children and therefore will choose a name we like and that possibly means something to us, but I think there is also a responsibility to choose something which can be versatile enough to be worn by someone who may not end up sharing our same values, because they are their own person.

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And I also think some names are burdensome in that they’re putting unrealistic expectations on a child. A child, who need nothing attached to it but a string of sounds, because life will attach the other stuff anyway, and that’s enough.

You are right :pray:

no

the parents I know truly believe their children are amazing. the kid isn’t naming themself

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I know this wasn’t necessarily directed at me, and I don’t want to steal Abby’s thunder as it were, but I would argue that these kinds of judgements (on parents and children) are more of a problem than the names themselves. Might Amazing’s parents be ‘stuck-up’ and ‘self-centered’? Sure. But so could Olivia’s parents. And maybe Amazing’s parents wanted to reflect their love and aspirations for their child. Amazing could choose to go by Amy or Maz, go by their middle name, or fully embrace their uncommon name. And maybe Olivia wants something more distinctive! Bottom line: parents are naming strangers. It’s hard to know how children will respond to the names given to them, so it’s up to parents to choose the best name they know how. I think it’s generally the kind and prudent thing to assume parents are doing their best when naming their child, even if it’s not how you would choose.

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With all the best will in the world, it doesn’t matter to that child one cent how much thought you put into calling them bravery, if they are crippled with anxiety. That’s the reality, and that’s where we live.

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