Fourth kid, first girl, just under four months to figure it all out...

Hey guys!

We just found out the sex of our fourth (soon-to-be) baby, our last, and we’re… at a little bit of a loss. We’ve named three little boys, but this is our first time trying to come up w/ a girl’s name and so far we’re really struggling. Her siblings are [name_m]Bram[/name_m] [name_m]Julian[/name_m], [name_u]Lionel[/name_u] [name_m]Matthias[/name_m], and [name_m]Didier[/name_m] [name_m]Jonas[/name_m], and our last name is (spelled differently) Hazan-Shapiro.

What we’re looking for in terms of girls’ names: I’m not sure?? I prefer not-quite-mainstream Jewish names; my partner prefers more old lady chic; we’re both looking for something a little bit playful, potentially w/ nicknames. Here’s a list we’ve compiled of names that neither of us hates, but we would [name_u]LOVE[/name_u] suggestions:

[name_f]Hana[/name_f]
[name_f]Odette[/name_f]
([name_f]Odessa[/name_f]?)
[name_f]Delphine[/name_f]
[name_f]Shoshana[/name_f] ([name_f]Shosha[/name_f])
[name_f]Willa[/name_f]
[name_f]Margaret[/name_f]
[name_u]Simone[/name_u]
[name_f]Arianne[/name_f]
[name_f]Mira[/name_f]
[name_f]Sylva[/name_f]
[name_f]Aviva[/name_f]
[name_f]Octavia[/name_f]/[name_f]Tavia[/name_f] ([name_u]Tavi[/name_u])
[name_f]Esther[/name_f] ([name_f]Esti[/name_f])
[name_f]Dinah[/name_f]
[name_f]Margo[/name_f]

Also: we live in Montreal, so [name_m]French[/name_m] or [name_m]French[/name_m] accessibility is a plus.

Thnx!

[name_u]Frankie[/name_u] & [name_f]Sara[/name_f]

[name_f]Susanna[/name_f]/[name_f]Susannah[/name_f] springs to mind, potentially with the nickname [name_f]Zuzu[/name_f]?

What about

[name_f]Freida[/name_f]
[name_f]Levana[/name_f]
[name_f]Talia[/name_f]
[name_f]Joanie[/name_f]
[name_f]Florence[/name_f]
[name_f]Thora[/name_f]
[name_f]Ariella[/name_f]
[name_f]Jordana[/name_f]
Milleah (Mill-lee-a)
[name_u]Micah[/name_u]
[name_f]Michaela[/name_f]
[name_f]Mishayla[/name_f]
[name_f]Elsa[/name_f]
[name_f]Greta[/name_f]

[name_f]Lorna[/name_f]
[name_u]Piper[/name_u]
[name_f]Lila[/name_f]
[name_f]Charlotte[/name_f]
[name_f]Talia[/name_f]
[name_f]Mila[/name_f]
[name_f]Janna[/name_f]
[name_f]Violet[/name_f]
[name_f]Sidonia[/name_f]
[name_f]Eloisa[/name_f]
[name_f]Leonore[/name_f]
[name_f]Althea[/name_f]
[name_f]Aurelia[/name_f]
[name_f]Angeline[/name_f]
[name_f]Adeline[/name_f]
[name_f]Dorothea[/name_f]
[name_f]Philomena[/name_f]
[name_f]Alice[/name_f]
[name_f]Therese[/name_f]
[name_f]Romaine[/name_f]
[name_f]Leora[/name_f]
[name_f]Amelia[/name_f]
[name_f]Dalia[/name_f]
[name_f]Adira[/name_f]
[name_f]Amira[/name_f]
[name_f]Lena[/name_f]
[name_f]Olivia[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucy[/name_f]
[name_f]Elsa[/name_f]
[name_f]Genevieve[/name_f]
[name_f]Ada[/name_f]
[name_f]Shaina[/name_f]
[name_f]Anna[/name_f]

[name_u]LOVE[/name_u] your boys’ names!

From your list so far I like:

[name_f]Shoshana[/name_f] ([name_f]Shosha[/name_f])
[name_f]Willa[/name_f]
[name_f]Margaret[/name_f]
[name_f]Arianne[/name_f]
[name_f]Esther[/name_f] ([name_f]Esti[/name_f])
[name_f]Dinah[/name_f]
[name_f]Margo[/name_f]

Suggestions:

[name_f]Annika[/name_f]
[name_f]Hestia[/name_f]
[name_f]Aurelia[/name_f]
[name_f]Saskia[/name_f]
[name_f]Delphi[/name_f]
[name_f]Daphne[/name_f]
[name_f]Clea[/name_f]/[name_f]Cleo[/name_f]
[name_f]Thea[/name_f]
[name_f]Calla[/name_f]
[name_f]Minna[/name_f]
[name_u]Meredith[/name_u]
[name_f]Astrid[/name_f]
[name_f]Olive[/name_f]
[name_f]Ariadne[/name_f]
[name_f]Milla[/name_f]
[name_f]Azalea[/name_f]
[name_f]Zilla[/name_f]/[name_f]Zella[/name_f]
[name_f]Cora[/name_f]
[name_f]Beatrix[/name_f]
[name_f]Opal[/name_f]
[name_f]Hazel[/name_f]
[name_f]Arabella[/name_f]
[name_f]Lydia[/name_f]

I love [name_f]Odette[/name_f] so, so much!! And [name_f]Willa[/name_f] too. I think they’re definitely two names that would fit with your boys.

[name_m]How[/name_m] about (though I’m kinda obsessed with [name_f]Odette[/name_f] and [name_f]Willa[/name_f] haha):

[name_f]Estella[/name_f]

[name_u]Abilene[/name_u]

[name_f]Elodie[/name_f]

[name_f]Rosamund[/name_f]/[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]/[name_f]Rosalind[/name_f]/[name_f]Rosemary[/name_f]

[name_f]Winifred[/name_f] ([name_f]Winnie[/name_f])

[name_f]Elspeth[/name_f]

[name_f]Anastasia[/name_f] ([name_f]Sia[/name_f], [name_f]Anya[/name_f], [name_u]Stacey[/name_u])

[name_f]Nora[/name_f]

[name_f]Ariella[/name_f]

[name_f]Seraphina[/name_f]

[name_f]Henrietta[/name_f] ([name_m]Henry[/name_m], [name_f]Hen[/name_f], [name_f]Etta[/name_f])

[name_f]Lottie[/name_f]

[name_f]Hilda[/name_f]/[name_f]Heidi[/name_f]/[name_f]Swanilda[/name_f]

[name_f]Lila[/name_f]

Lendita

Thisby

[name_f]Theodora[/name_f] ([name_u]Theo[/name_u], [name_f]Dora[/name_f])

[name_f]Maya[/name_f]

[name_f]Bernadette[/name_f]

[name_f]Angelique[/name_f]

[name_u]Nelly[/name_u]

[name_f]Gwendolyn[/name_f]

[name_f]Margaux[/name_f]

[name_f]Yolanda[/name_f]

[name_f]Willamina[/name_f] (as a longer name for [name_f]Willa[/name_f])

[name_u]Wren[/name_u]

[name_f]Delilah[/name_f]

[name_f]Maeve[/name_f]

[name_f]Katarina[/name_f]

[name_f]Melody[/name_f]

[name_f]Virginia[/name_f]

[name_f]Genevieve[/name_f]

[name_f]Tabitha[/name_f]

[name_f]Gabriela[/name_f]

[name_f]Jemima[/name_f] (Jewish and kinda old lady chic haha)

[name_f]Josephine[/name_f]

[name_f]Lizbeth[/name_f]

[name_f]Raquel[/name_f]

[name_f]Paige[/name_f]

[name_f]Shanice[/name_f]

[name_f]Shawna[/name_f]

[name_f]Salome[/name_f]

[name_f]Constance[/name_f]

[name_f]Matilda[/name_f]

[name_f]Adelaide[/name_f]/[name_f]Adeline[/name_f]

[name_f]Agatha[/name_f]

[name_f]Harriet[/name_f] ([name_f]Harrie[/name_f])

[name_f]Lucinda[/name_f]

[name_f]Millicent[/name_f] ([name_f]Millie[/name_f])

[name_f]Cecelia[/name_f]

[name_f]Olive[/name_f]… Nickname [name_u]Ollie[/name_u]! Spunky and beautiful!

[name_f]Hana[/name_f]- Meh
[name_f]Odette[/name_f]- I’m not a fan. It sounds matronly.
[name_f]Odessa[/name_f]- Its OK
[name_f]Delphine[/name_f]- Pretty & sweet
[name_f]Shoshona[/name_f]- Pretty & sweet yet strong. Might work for a girl with a lot of brothers!
[name_f]Shosha[/name_f]- I strongly prefer [name_f]Shoshona[/name_f]
[name_f]Willa[/name_f]- Yes!
[name_f]Margaret[/name_f]- I feel like it’s out of place with your sons’ names. And while I like the name, I dislike the nicknames.
[name_u]Simone[/name_u]- [name_u]Love[/name_u] it. The ultimate chic old Jewish lady!
[name_f]Ariadne[/name_f]- spellcheck keeps defaulting to [name_f]Adrienne[/name_f] which I think is more familiar.
[name_f]Mira[/name_f]- I love this name
[name_f]Sylva[/name_f]- sounds like someone trying to silver in a bad accent
[name_f]Aviva[/name_f]- :-?
[name_f]Octavia[/name_f]- kind of formal and ornate. Not a fan
[name_f]Esther[/name_f]- nope
Eati- just sounds like a nickname for [name_f]Esther[/name_f]
[name_f]Dinah[/name_f]- ok
[name_f]Margot[/name_f]- love it

Lots of great choices!!

[name_f]Adelaide[/name_f] - [name_f]Ada[/name_f], [name_f]Addie[/name_f], [name_f]Delia[/name_f], [name_f]Della[/name_f], Lady
[name_f]Adeline[/name_f] - [name_f]Ada[/name_f], [name_f]Addie[/name_f], [name_f]Delia[/name_f], [name_f]Della[/name_f]
[name_f]Amelie[/name_f] - [name_f]Amy[/name_f], [name_f]Millie[/name_f], [name_u]Leigh[/name_u]
[name_f]Annalise[/name_f] or [name_f]Anneliese[/name_f] - [name_f]Ann[/name_f], [name_f]Anna[/name_f], [name_f]Annie[/name_f], [name_f]Lise[/name_f], Lisey (pronounced “lee-see”)
[name_f]Arabelle[/name_f] or [name_f]Arabella[/name_f] - [name_u]Ari[/name_u], [name_f]Belle[/name_f]/[name_f]Bella[/name_f], [name_f]Elle[/name_f]/[name_f]Ella[/name_f]
[name_f]Aurelia[/name_f] - [name_f]Lia[/name_f]
[name_f]Aurora[/name_f] - [name_u]Rory[/name_u], [name_f]Rora[/name_f]
[name_f]Aviva[/name_f] - [name_f]Ava[/name_f], [name_f]Viva[/name_f], [name_f]Viv[/name_f], [name_f]Vivi[/name_f]
[name_f]Camellia[/name_f] - [name_f]Cammie[/name_f], [name_f]Millie[/name_f], [name_f]Mila[/name_f], [name_f]Lia[/name_f]
[name_f]Cassandra[/name_f] - [name_f]Cassie[/name_f], [name_f]Andie[/name_f], [name_u]Sandy[/name_u]
[name_f]Coralie[/name_f] - [name_f]Cora[/name_f]
[name_f]Eliana[/name_f] - [name_f]Elle[/name_f], [name_f]Ellie[/name_f], [name_f]Ana[/name_f]
Elisabette/[name_f]Elisabetta[/name_f] - [name_f]Elise[/name_f], [name_f]Eliza[/name_f], [name_f]Lise[/name_f], [name_f]Betta[/name_f], [name_f]Betty[/name_f], [name_f]Etta[/name_f]
[name_u]Eloise[/name_u] - [name_f]Elle[/name_f], [name_f]Lola[/name_f], [name_f]Lise[/name_f]
[name_f]Emilia[/name_f] - [name_f]Emma[/name_f], [name_f]Emmie[/name_f], [name_f]Lia[/name_f], [name_f]Mila[/name_f]
[name_f]Emmaline[/name_f] - [name_f]Emma[/name_f], [name_f]Emmie[/name_f], [name_f]Lina[/name_f] ( pronounced “leena”)
[name_f]Genevieve[/name_f] - [name_f]Ginny[/name_f], [name_f]Neve[/name_f], [name_f]Eve[/name_f], [name_f]Evie[/name_f], [name_f]Vivi[/name_f]
[name_f]Juliette[/name_f] - [name_u]Jules[/name_u], [name_f]Julia[/name_f], [name_u]Julie[/name_u], [name_f]Etta[/name_f]
[name_f]Lavinia[/name_f] - [name_u]Vinnie[/name_u], [name_f]Liv[/name_f], [name_f]Livie[/name_f]
[name_f]Madeleine[/name_f] - [name_f]Maddie[/name_f]
[name_f]Magnolia[/name_f] - [name_f]Maggie[/name_f], [name_f]Madge[/name_f], [name_f]Nola[/name_f], [name_f]Lola[/name_f], [name_f]Lia[/name_f]
[name_f]Nadine[/name_f] - [name_f]Nadia[/name_f], [name_f]Dina[/name_f]
[name_f]Noemi[/name_f] - [name_f]Emmie[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosaline[/name_f] - [name_f]Rose[/name_f], [name_f]Rosa[/name_f], [name_f]Rosie[/name_f], [name_f]Lina[/name_f] (pronounced “leena”)
[name_f]Vivienne[/name_f] - [name_f]Viv[/name_f], [name_f]Vivi[/name_f]

I like the sound of [name_f]Esther[/name_f] [name_f]Margo[/name_f] but [name_f]Shoshana[/name_f] [name_f]Miran[/name_f] is super cute too.

Since you like [name_f]Margaret[/name_f] and [name_f]Margo[/name_f], how about Margalit? (pearl in Hebrew). [name_f]Margo[/name_f] works as a nickname.

Other names that come to mind are:

[name_f]Amalia[/name_f]/[name_f]Amalya[/name_f]
[name_f]Davina[/name_f]
Meirav
[name_f]Shula[/name_f] (variation of [name_f]Shulamit[/name_f])
[name_f]Gavriella[/name_f] (nn [name_u]Gavi[/name_u])
[name_f]Odelia[/name_f]
[name_f]Frieda[/name_f]

[name_f]Odette[/name_f], [name_u]Simone[/name_u], [name_f]Delphine[/name_f], and [name_f]Silvia[/name_f] are all on my short list I think we have similar taste. I think you have a great list already. You might also like:

[name_f]Estelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Celeste[/name_f]
[name_f]Annette[/name_f]
[name_f]Leonor[/name_f]
[name_f]Leonie[/name_f]
[name_f]Dahlia[/name_f]
[name_f]Shira[/name_f]

Wow! I’m impressed & just a little bit overwhelmed by the quality (and also sheer number) of these suggestions. That being said, I’ll try to respond to each of you individually:

@easterbunny: What an adorable nickname! I love Susanna(h) a lot–even more with the nickname Zuzu–although I think we’re almost certainly more likely to use the original Hebrew Shoshana.

@amy1512: I’m a HUGE fan of Thora; that name had never really occurred to me before, but it hits the sweet spot between musty and hip. My worry: too Scandinavian for our very non-Scandinavian looking family?

I love Joanie too, although Joan strikes me as a little bit dated. Is there any other way we could arrive at Joanie as a nickname, maybe?

@neeeea: Lovely list! I particularly like Violet, Janna, and Therese.

@ew314: Thank you so much; we love them too! I love the suggestions of Cleo (short for Clementine maybe, or potentially Cleora?), Thea, Calla, Olive, and Cora.

@charlottechar: Thanks–I’m a big fan of Odette and Willa too (my wife suggested it as a nod to the author Willa Cather). Of your list, I especially like the names Nora, Nell, Wren, and Cecelia.

@w12: Olive is definitely being added to the list!

@sallycat427: Thank you! Keep in mind that Shosha and Esti are supposed to be nicknames for Shoshana and Esther, respectively.

@lovebeingamom: I hadn’t thought about Cassandra, but it’s stunning, and I love the nickname Andy. Also: Nadine. Thanks!

@18_25: I like Shoshana (Shosha) Miriam a lot, although that’s probably getting a little bit ahead of ourselves. Thank you!

@bluehydrangea: Davina is lovely! Thanks! Margalit feels a little bit unwieldy in our more-or-less secular word, although I imagine if we named her Margo/Margaret that would be her Hebrew name.

@toronto87: I’m so glad you think so! I love the name Leonie–unfortunately it’s a little bit too close to ‘Lionel’ for comfort. Celeste is beautiful also.

Alright so… given your input so far, and with the caveat that I haven’t yet had time to discuss all of these new options with my wife, here’s an updated (and slightly smaller, for better or for worse) list of options:

Clara
Odette
Odessa
Delphine
Honora
Margo
Mira
Shoshana (Shosha)
Esther (Esti)
Alana
Juno
Olive
Simone
Willa
Janna
Therese
Cleo (short for: Clementine? Cleora? Or could it work on its own?)
Calla
Nell
Thea (short for: Thessaly, maybe?)
Oona

Thank you so much for all your help already!