Help me choose

Hello Berries!

I need you to help me decide between:

Esmée [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
[name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]

We could possibly consider:
[name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
[name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f]
[name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f]
Esmée [name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]


  1. Everybody around us makes fun of [name_f]Olive[/name_f] and it scares me (we currently live in [name_f]France[/name_f]).
  2. My husband’s favorite name is [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u].

Thank you

Esmèe [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] is lovely and I prefer Esmèe significantly to [name_f]Liv[/name_f]. Esmèe [name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] is beautiful too

[name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f]

I really love [name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] - it’s a sleek, really cool name that works well on a child and an adult. Esmée doesn’t appeal to me, I see it as quite dated. It’s obviously a subjective thing though and it’s a perfectly fine name. Also, I find the ‘m’ in Esmée runs into the beginning of [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u].

I really love [name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] but it seems like you’ve gotten bad feedback on it which is a shame. I think you should still use it though if you really love it! [name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f] is lovely too (I don’t usually like [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] but it works well in this combo).

I’m in love with [name_f]Esmee[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]

Agree! [name_u]Love[/name_u] this ”

Oh, what a dilemma! It’s so hard when you have a plethora of beautiful options.

[name_f]Do[/name_f] you mind if I ask what the problem is with [name_f]Olive[/name_f]? I adore the name, but would hate to give my little gal a name that would cause trouble for her if she ever went to [name_f]France[/name_f] or elsewhere in the world. I do think that whatever the issue is, I would hold off on using [name_f]Olive[/name_f] if it truly bothers you. The opinions of others shouldn’t matter at the end of the day, but we often let them anyways, and the name of your child should never cause turmoil in your heart.

[name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] is lovely. I can definitely see why your husband loves it so. Is there a reason Miss [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] isn’t in the running for a first name? It seems akin to [name_f]Liv[/name_f] in its boyish charm and subtle, long history.

Anyways, here are my thoughts:

Esmée [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]: Oh, I can hardly stand how amazing this name is. Esmée is incredibly beautiful. It reminds me of velvet dresses, emeralds, and beautiful women in old black-and-white films. It’s classy and brilliant, smart and sweet. [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] is a really great middle name for Esmée, with the rhythmic “m’s” and juxtaposition between feminine and unisex. [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] rounds out the name perfectly, cementing these three very different monikers into one cohesive gem. This name feels reminiscent of the time and place where this baby will be born, as well as literature, art, and history. It’s impeccable.

And then we’ve got [name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]. [name_f]Liv[/name_f] is beautiful. It’s lively, stately, and quite impactful. Because of its short length and strong sound, however, it’s hard to pair other names with. The flow of a name is not the most important thing, but [name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] seems a little stunted. I’m tempted to suggest [name_f]Liv[/name_f] as a middle name if you feel so inclined, but I’m just not sure. [name_f]Liv[/name_f] has many admirable qualities, really and truly. It’s feminine without being sickly sweet, universally easy to pronounce, and uncommon as a given name. [name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] has all the charm of Esmée [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f], just in a different way.

In the end, I think you should go with Esmée [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]. Though [name_f]Liv[/name_f] reminds me of [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] and shares sounds with your beloved [name_f]Olive[/name_f], Esmée seems most fitting for your family.

If you can’t let go of [name_f]Olive[/name_f] (which I certainly couldn’t!), perhaps you would like the idea of [name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f], called [name_f]Liv[/name_f]? That way, if you ever moved from [name_f]France[/name_f] or decided you don’t really care about other people disliking the name, you could still call her [name_f]Olive[/name_f], but also have [name_f]Liv[/name_f] to fall back on.

If [name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] were truly as much an option for you as the [name_f]Liv[/name_f] or Esmée combos, I would be inclined to implore you to use [name_f]Olive[/name_f] before [name_f]Liv[/name_f], but not before Esmée.

Best of luck in naming baby!

I love the name [name_f]Olive[/name_f], it’s stunning. I’m so sorry your not receiving a nice feedback.
I believe in [name_f]France[/name_f] it is not so common for parents to choose word names for their kids as in English-speaking countries. That’s why a lot of people think [name_f]Olive[/name_f] is a strange option. Well, in my country, most people don’t like/don’t accept word names either so unfortunately I understand what you’re going through. Are you going to stay in [name_f]France[/name_f] for a long time? [name_f]Do[/name_f] you have [name_m]French[/name_m] heritage? If your answer is yes, I think you probably need to delete [name_f]Olive[/name_f] from your first names list. However, as a middle name or a nickname I believe it would still be usable. If your answer is no, I think that you need to think why you love the name [name_f]Olive[/name_f] so much and you need to consider how much it bothers you that people around you don’t like it. [name_f]Do[/name_f] you think that one day you may regret your decision if you end up not using [name_f]Olive[/name_f]?
[name_f]Olivia[/name_f] is a stunning alternative and you can always call her [name_f]Olive[/name_f] or [name_f]Liv[/name_f] if you want! [name_f]Liv[/name_f] is a cute name but I prefer the sweet and powerful [name_f]Olivia[/name_f].
Esmée is a gorgeous name too. Esmée [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] is a lovely combination! Since you live in [name_f]France[/name_f], I think Esmée is one of the safest options for a first name.
[name_f]Autumn[/name_f] is a great name. I also really like [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] and [name_f]Elinor[/name_f].

[name_m]Favorite[/name_m] to least favorite:

  1. Esmée [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
  2. [name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
  3. Esmée [name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
  4. [name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f]
  5. [name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
  6. [name_f]Liv[/name_f] [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f]

Esmée [name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
Esmée [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f]
Esmée [name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_f]Maxine[/name_f]
Esmée [name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
[name_f]Olivia[/name_f] [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
[name_f]Olivia[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
[name_f]Olivia[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]
[name_f]Livia[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f]

Good luck!

I think @jonquils has pretty much summed it up!

Esmée [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] is simply beautiful. The [name_f]Liv[/name_f] combo is lovely too, but does feel a little too short with it’s middle names. I definitely second [name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] with [name_f]Liv[/name_f] as a nickname, but do prefer Esmée over [name_f]Olive[/name_f].

[name_f]Esmee[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f] is so gorgeous! [name_f]Esmee[/name_f] is elegant but approachable. The flow of the combo is very nice. [name_f]Esmee[/name_f] is definitely my pick from you list!

Thank you Berries for all the input! I appreciate it

Again, thank you Jonquils! It’s a pleasure to read your message.

I feel like people only picture an olive. Olives are often disliked, the taste is different and not sweet, the color is not beautiful. It’s not like a blueberry or a cherry. Myrtille (blueberry) and [name_f]Cerise[/name_f] (cherry) are names that we sometimes see in [name_f]France[/name_f], and I feel like they are more easily accepted by the society. Because they are sweet and cute. Which is not the case of [name_f]Olive[/name_f]. Also for teenagers “mettre une olive” is “putting a finger in his friend’s anus through his clothes, as soon as he bends over”. It’s not really known but some people think about it. It’s stupid. I love [name_f]Olive[/name_f] and I’m not bothered by “mettre une olive” because I know the expression will disappear one day. I’m more bothered by the fact that nobody seems to like it around us.

My mom already told us that she would only use [name_f]Liv[/name_f] if we name the baby [name_f]Olive[/name_f]. It is an option, but in [name_f]France[/name_f] people don’t really use nicknames. She would have to stick with [name_f]Olive[/name_f] outside of our family.

We are not considering [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u] because we already have a last name that sounds super American to [name_m]French[/name_m] people (it looks like [name_u]McKinley[/name_u]). We would like a name that’s more neutral and doesn’t scream french or american. For example, we love [name_m]Gustave[/name_m] but it sounds too french for my ears, and doesn’t fit with our last name in my opinion.

I don’t know how long we will stay in [name_f]France[/name_f], we are thinking about 7-10 years. I also don’t know where our kids will want to live later. I’m [name_m]French[/name_m], my family is [name_m]French[/name_m]. My husband is American. Our kids will have both nationalities.
I might regret not using [name_f]Olive[/name_f] if [name_f]Liv[/name_f] gets popular. I love [name_f]Olive[/name_f]. It’s is bold, dated, different… but nobody likes it. I love [name_f]Liv[/name_f]. It’s spunky, fresh, modern but… short. Sometimes I feel like it’s missing something. Nicknames are not a thing in [name_f]France[/name_f] so I’m not sure [name_f]Olive[/name_f] nn [name_f]Liv[/name_f] is an option.

I’m not a fan of [name_f]Livia[/name_f] or [name_f]Olivia[/name_f], sorry. I like Esmée [name_f]Maxine[/name_f] [name_f]Elinor[/name_f] and Esmée [name_f]Olive[/name_f] [name_f]Autumn[/name_f].

Thank you for your help!