How To Handle No Sleep?!

[name_f]My[/name_f] sweet little guy was born 3/3/14 (9 days old). He really is the most mild tempered baby. He rarely cries, and isn’t even fussy much. But, like most newborns, his nights and days are all mixed up. During the day I try to wake him every 2-3 hours for feeds. But at night he seems to be wide awake when he wakes for feeds! I am not a person who does well with little sleep AT ALL. I love routine, and not having a hard set routine is really messing with my emotions! I hate being exhausted (like I presume most people do) and I feel like I can’t handle it! I know it won’t always be this way but I really take no comfort in that right now. I’ve gotten the sleep when the baby sleeps advice, but I’m curious…

[name_m]How[/name_m] is everyone doing it/ did everyone do it?!

I started drinking coffee after having my first :slight_smile: Hang in there! It does get better!

Most babies are like this for a while. Think about when your baby tends to be most awake, or when he has his longest sleep stretch & plan around that. [name_f]My[/name_f] scenario: [name_f]Indie[/name_f] is typically most awake (and gassy and fussy) between about 6PM and 3AM, and she wakes up a few times over night but if I keep her fed & comfy she is happy to sleep in til 10AM… so I make it my routine to be up til 2 or 3AM (usually binge watching something on Netflix) and then sleep in til 10. Before [name_f]Indira[/name_f] was born Azula would go down around 8 or 9 & get up again at 9AM… but because I need to sleep longer in the morning now we let her stay up til 10 or 11 & then she gets up when [name_f]Indira[/name_f] does around 10. I try not to make appointments too early in the day so I’m not losing sleep or rushing around like a crazy person in the mornings.
I’ll typically take my bath or shower when Azula goes down - and as long as I feed & burp [name_f]Indira[/name_f] she’s usually cool to hang out in the bouncer or whatever while I get things done.
[name_m]Both[/name_m] my girls despise sleeping on their backs. So getting the nighttime routine down was difficult. With Azula the only thing that saved my sanity was the baby swing. She would sleep like a freaking [name_u]BABY[/name_u] in that thing. We don’t have one any more but now if [name_f]Indira[/name_f] is giving us a rough time we stick her in her car seat & swing it & that seems to do the trick.

As far as keeping your sanity with little sleep, make sure you are eating good meals regularly & drinking lots of water. Get outside as much as you can.

That said, my husband is off on Parental leave so if I need to take some time to myself for a kid-free Starbucks run or go up & grab 20 minutes of sleep its not a problem.

[name_m]How[/name_m] are you feeding him? Relying on coffee if you are breastfeeding is shooting yourself in the foot - which brings me to: be careful of the amount of caffeine you are consuming in the early evening. You don’t want to be the reason he’s wide awake lol. Also, if breastfeeding, leave him on the one side until it’s empty, don’t think you have to give him both every time, because the hind milk contains everything that helps put them to sleep. So if you’re giving him mostly foremilk, he is likely to be awake longer.

What worked for us was not putting the baby in her cot for naps during the day. She’d sleep in our arms/sling, in her bouncer, on the floor, the pram, my bed with me (I’d be awake) etc, but it was always in a reasonably well-lit place and never in her night-time sleeping place. I think the cycle of natural light/darkness helped her body clock reset.

We also put her down very late at night. If she napped at 8pm or whatever, I’d be sure to wake her by 10, play with her for an hour, then bath her, give her one last feed and put her to bed. I made an effort to make sure she was tired lol. Generally she didn’t sleep right away, but was content to lay there and be read to or listen to us talking quietly. She’d be asleep by 11:30 and I’d go to bed right after to take full advantage of her longest sleep.

With that said, some babies sleep when you want them to and some don’t. I’m pretty sure that in general you just have to roll with it and follow your instincts. [name_f]Remember[/name_f] there’s nothing wrong with you or your parenting if your baby continues to be wakeful at night. You’re still doing a great job, so don’t get down on yourself :smiley:
“Sleeping through the night” is considered to be 5 hours by medical professionals, so even when you’re getting that, you’re still likely to be tired. Try to steal a nap for yourself during the day if you can.

It will pass, I promise.

Get a trusted neighbor/family member/adult to come over and hold the baby for a few hours, ideally a few times a week. (Pay this person as generously as is humanly possible for your finances.) Go take a nap by yourself, and then hop in the shower for a few minutes when you wake up. You will feel like a new person.

I used to call my dad, crying, when I was really exhausted and our first three were babies. He lived across the country and couldn’t do anything about it but it was comforting to have someone to talk to. When you are frustrated and tired, everything seems more hopeless than it really is. When all else fails, reach out and talk to someone about it. As previous posters are saying, it does pass and they do eventually start sleeping more during the night.

We found “The [name_u]Baby[/name_u] Whisperer” by [name_u]Tracy[/name_u] Hogg enormously helpful for sleep. It is all about getting the baby on a routine (not a hard and fast schedule, just a routine) which helps them know when they are supposed to be awake/asleep. And not feeding the baby to sleep, which is so tempting and easy to do, I know. But a few months down the road, it is a really difficult habit to break, or at least it was for us.

Keep nighttime as boring as possible. Keep the lights off, don’t talk to him, change him only if he pooped. [name_m]Don[/name_m]'t respond to every peep at night, wait and see if he actually starts crying. He might just be talking in his sleep.

Sleep is hard! Good luck, go easy on yourself, and try and fit in a nap if you need one. [name_m]Don[/name_m]'t expect to get so much done when you are sleep deprived. It is really hard having your sleep interrupted and there is a reason it is such an effective torture technique.

These are great tips to help your son regulate his day/night cycles and eventually begin sleeping through the night. [name_m]Just[/name_m] to reiterate-- babies naturally wake every two hours (as do adults, actually if you track brain wave activity during sleep). All of us eventually learn to stitch these cycles together, so we sleep 2, 4, 6 then 8-10 hours in a row, naturally. We develop true 24-hr circadian rhythms and a true sleep-wake cycle. Your son’s job is to learn how to do that, and the tips above (keeping things bright & stimulating during the day, dark and soothing at night; not immediately attending to him when he awakens in the night, so he begins to self-soothe, not changing diapers at night unless they’re dirty) are great.

But for short-term survival: the amount of caffeine secreted in breastmilk is the same as your blood caffeine content (like your blood alcohol content when you drink alcohol). In other words, it’s extremely low. It’s not like a shot of espresso is delivered with each 4oz feed. So if you need caffeine to function, please try it. The caveat is that some babies might still be bothered by even that minimal amount of caffeine-- my daughter was. I switched to drinking caffeinated tea instead of coffee and she’s tolerated that just fine.

I think the old advice of ‘sleep when the baby is sleeping’ is very difficult to follow. As an adult you have those 24-hr Circadian rhythms I was talking about already deeply ingrained. It’s very hard to fall asleep for 30-45 min each time the baby sleeps around the clock. The sleep isn’t restorative and it can leave you feeling more groggy and confused.

[name_f]My[/name_f] advice instead is to put yourself on a 12-hr or so nighttime cycle. You’ll actually only sleep like 6-7 of those 12 hours. But going from roughly 10 PM to 10 AM, sleep whenever the baby is sleeping (or whenever he’s not needing to be breastfed). You’ll nap in short 1-2.5 hour bursts, probably 3-4 or them over that time period. Then, mid-morning, you get up and begin your day. Shower! Make sure you shower! It’s important for your recovery post-birth from a hygienic perspective and also for your general relaxation, well-being and alertness. Get dressed in something non-pajama-like. [name_m]Don[/name_m]'t lay in bed. Drink your tea-- even if you don’t want to try caffeine, just a nice warm cup of herbal tea will help wake you and soothe you. Eat a decent breakfast and regular lunch & dinner. If the weather is decent in the area in which you live, take your son out for short little field trips. If you need one quick afternoon nap mid-afternoon when your son sleeps, take it-- but otherwise, keep yourself on a rough 12/12 hr sleep/wake cycle.

Also, you mentioned that you would try to wake your son up after three hours during the day. We are all taught in medical school that very young babies (like your son, only 9 days old) can’t go more than four hours between feedings due to the way their livers store & release energy, etc. So at least let him go four hours before awakening him. The worry is that their blood sugar goes too low and they won’t wake up from hunger cues due to the lethargic effect this creates. However, I know personally that the doctor part of me really fought with the mom part of me over this. For my firstborn, I would really assiduously awaken him if it had been 4 hours, even in the night, until he was a month old. But the mom part of me was screaming “sweet heaven, he’s asleep! Leave him alone!” and often the mom part won out. :slight_smile: But even the strict doctor part would let him go 4 hours.

Hahahaha [name_m]Blade[/name_m]! YES, it is soooo hard to wake them up ON PURPOSE at the 4 hour mark when they are still sleeping. :slight_smile: Like a tiny dagger in my heart every time. Waiting 15 minutes until it is time to feed [name_m]Kurt[/name_m] again, then going straight to bed. I hope the rest of you are getting some sweet, sweet sleep too.

P.S. Personally, I have found caffeine to be very helpful as well. Good luck!

I was given a copy of a book called ‘Save our Sleep’ by Tizzy [name_m]Hall[/name_m]. Being a first time mum I had no idea about when and for how long but should be sleeping/eating/playing at what ages. The book changed our lives in the matter of a week. But I am the type of person that needs routine and knowing when things should (roughly) happen. Due for our second at any moment now…will be referring to the book again! Good luck