Is a Betty or Betsy doomed for a lifetime alone at the lunch table?

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[name_m]Hi[/name_m] ,

So I really like a lot of [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] nicknames like [name_f]Betty[/name_f] and [name_f]Betsy[/name_f] but I really am not a fan of [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f]. [name_f]Betty[/name_f]/[name_f]Betsy[/name_f] in my opinion is a fun , sweet but still determined girl/woman but [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] is heavy and I think “school librarian” is the best way to describe it but I don’t want to shade any librarians. Also it’s far too popular for me. However I see a lot mixed messages about them online. Some people love them and others despise them. Are they not really ready for a comeback?

Also is [name_f]Betty[/name_f] too associated with Riverdale now (paging @oh_archiekins)?

Haha! [name_u]Read[/name_u] this first as “see a lot of mixed messages about librarians online”!

I like [name_f]Betty[/name_f] and [name_f]Betsy[/name_f] and see them as right in there with [name_f]Hattie[/name_f], [name_f]Sadie[/name_f] and others, but I’d personally use the name [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] too in case it was too stylised for the kid’s taste. They both still have red lipstick pin-up vibes to me, [name_f]Betsy[/name_f] especially.

I met a little girl recently called [name_f]Betty[/name_f]-[name_f]Rose[/name_f] and died - so pretty on a person! Really like [name_f]Betty[/name_f].

Here in the UK [name_f]Betsy[/name_f] is just outside the Top 100, so I definitely think of it as a perfectly serviceable standalone name.

[name_f]Betty[/name_f] is less popular here, but still Top 400. Personally, I actually prefer [name_f]Betty[/name_f] because I get cool, retro, pin-up vibes from it: think [name_f]Betty[/name_f] [name_m]Draper[/name_m] or [name_f]Bette[/name_f] [name_m]Davis[/name_m].

[name_f]Betsy[/name_f] strikes me as much more cutesy and a little bit twee-vintage, rather than retro-cool.

[name_f]Betsy[/name_f] can be a stand alone name; I know a few.

As for [name_f]Betty[/name_f], I think [name_f]Betty[/name_f] White is an excellent example of a famous bearer that uses it instead of [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f]. In fact, she was born [name_f]Betty[/name_f] [name_u]Marion[/name_u].

I love the pp’s idea of [name_f]Betty[/name_f]-[name_f]Rose[/name_f] or something similar.

[name_f]Betsy[/name_f]’s on my own list (as my mom’s an [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f]), and I dont see an issue with it being too old fashioned. In the US, plenty of old-school names are coming back, as well as in Australia, [name_f]Canada[/name_f], [name_f]England[/name_f], [name_m]Wales[/name_m], [name_f]Ireland[/name_f], etc.

Vintage is very in right now, and I feel like [name_f]Betsy[/name_f] is no different from [name_f]Elsie[/name_f], [name_f]Iris[/name_f], [name_f]Audrey[/name_f], [name_f]Violet[/name_f], [name_u]Josie[/name_u], [name_f]Kate[/name_f], etc.