Jocelyn on a boy?

Yes, ok, auroradawn! I’m with you on this idea! :slight_smile:

While I absolutely agree with you, and feel that it’s completely unfortunate that our society truly does carry that ‘misogynist mentality’, I would be weary of assigning that burden on a child. Although [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] is a lovely name for a little boy, and it has history as a male name, it is decidedly feminine here in the US. I don’t see that mindset changing anytime soon, either. It’s one of those ‘sad but true’ cases. Bullying is worse than ever before - and until THAT changes, a male sibset [name_u]Meridith[/name_u] and [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] would have a tough go at it.

@aggielou - the only way society’s attitudes are going to change and bullying reduced regarding names like these is for parents to take the bold leap and choose them again. The more people who meet boys and men named [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] and [name_u]Meredith[/name_u], the more comfortable they’ll get with a male bearing them. I’ve done some deep soul-searching for many years regarding my own gender bias and if a stubborn [name_m]Taurus[/name_m] lady like me can come around, there’s hope for anyone! :slight_smile:

I agree with everything you’ve said, mischa. But, selfishly, one wants to set their kid up with as few setbacks as possible in this life. So while I’d like other people to name their kids such names, I never would.

Kind of like… I’d really like the bias against short men to no longer exist. We need more strong, defiant short guys to address this. But would I choose for my son to be short and combat this? Definitely not.
(Unfortunately, given the stature of me and my husband, any son we have will in fact be short and be forced to combat this, regardless of my wishes. And I’m sure he will do so. But given the choice, I’d rather him not have to.)

Yes… that’s more of what I meant, I suppose.

I, too, hate the stigma. I think [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] is a great name! I just fear that giving that burden to one child wouldn’t do anything to change things, it would simply…well, burden the child.

I am not sure how we get over this without meeting more boy Jocelyns and Merediths, though. We, as a society, have to begin by just accepting other people…and loving everyone for both their similarities and their differences. That’s easy… right? :wink:

It’s not my cup of tea, and it’s certainly not the worst thing you can name him - but whatever you do just don’t change the spelling! rather than making the name look masculine, it just looks like you can’t spell.

I like he concept, but the -lyn (or however you spell it) ending is way too feminine, the only exception I can think of is [name_m]Declan[/name_m].

I absolutely adore it for a boy! But I am a sucker for male [name_u]Aubrey[/name_u], [name_u]Ashley[/name_u] (thank you [name_f]Margaret[/name_f] [name_m]Mitchell[/name_m]!), [name_u]Loren[/name_u], and [name_f]Loraine[/name_f].

Totally agree
Honestly, I feel sorry for posters who say things like “he would be teased/beaten up”. [name_f]Glad[/name_f] I didn’t grow up where they did. I definitely don’t live in a utopia but being in an international environment means I was/am exposed to lots of odd (by American standards) names and I’m not so fearful of gender benders.

It could change things. [name_m]How[/name_m] many times do we see “I’ve only met girls named [insert boy or unisex name] so it’s feminine” in these forums? Well, the 1st [name_u]Ashley[/name_u], [name_u]Aubrey[/name_u], [name_f]Willow[/name_f], [name_u]Shelby[/name_u], [name_u]Bell[/name_u], etc I’ve known were males so I perceive them as more masculine. I’ve only known four people named “[name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f]”; the 1st and 2nd were male. Children accept what we adults place in front of them. Nobody in school thought of [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] as a girl name because these boys were the only bearers we knew. [name_u]Cameron[/name_u] was a boy and girl name because there was a boy and a girl with it. We didn’t question it; it’s adults who have a problem and pass on those feelings to innocent kids

I hear you, but I believe [name_f]Jocelin[/name_f] and Joscelin are legit variations. In fact, I think [name_f]Jocelin[/name_f] may be an older spelling than [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f]. It’s getting harder every day to sort the “spelling variations” from the downright misspellings, though.

Good to see a polite gender-attitude debate going on. I wonder if I would be brave enough to bite the bullet and actually name a son [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] and take the flak? I wonder how long it would take people to get used to his name?

Thanks for the continuing votes!

I would [name_f]LOVE[/name_f] to meet a boy named [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f]! If [name_f]Jocelin[/name_f] is a legit spelling, I think I prefer that.

I completely agree with @mischa.

Also, why is [name_u]Lynn[/name_u] feminine?

It seems to have spun off [name_f]Linda[/name_f] in the 40’s and become very popular for girls for a while. But I do know several guys named [name_u]Lynn[/name_u]/[name_f]Linn[/name_f], including a 16-year-old [name_u]Lynn[/name_u] who seems to wear his name with very little awkwardness, so maybe that’s why I’m more open to [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f]!

Once I started obsessing over [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f], I realized the sound made me think of the word jostlin’–jostling–which conjures up an image of a cheerful crowd that somehow seems more masculine. That helped me break out of the “it sounds like a girl’s name” groove.

I really like [name_f]Johanna[/name_f] for a boy, so I don’t see a problem with [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f]. [name_u]Joss[/name_u] would be cute for short.

I’m usually all for unisex names on boys (I would easily use [name_u]Avery[/name_u] or [name_u]Bailey[/name_u]!), but I absolutely [name_f]LOVE[/name_f] [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] for a girl. I have no clue why. I just do. I feel like it sort of fits the same general style of my name–it has this natural, pastoral imagery of English countrysides and meadows and a girl with a subdued, kind sort of personality. I love [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] (and [name_u]Joss[/name_u]) on a girl. It’s the only name I’ve ever really considered breaking my no-unisex-names-for-a-daughter thing. I can’t even picture it on a boy, but I said the same about [name_u]Bailey[/name_u] about 5 years ago, and look where I stand now. :slight_smile: I’m sure if I could “see” it, I would probably love it, because I’m a sucker for soft names on boys. I would probably go with Joscelin or some other spelling, to differentiate, a wee bit, because [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] is such a girls’ name here. But [name_u]Joss[/name_u] or [name_m]Joe/name_m or [name_u]Jay[/name_u] could easily make it masculine, and Joscelin does look quite a bit more masculine to me. For some reason, the Joscelin spelling reminds me of a javelin, so it seems more masculine? I don’t know. I don’t pretend to understand my logic sometimes. :slight_smile: Right now, I don’t really see the appeal, but it seems to be right in my style, so I’m sure if I ever “saw” it, I would certainly be happy to meet a little boy named [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f]/Joscelin. :slight_smile:

I live in [name_f]Canada[/name_f], and I know a girl named [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] (and another named [name_f]Jacelyn[/name_f]), and 0 boys named this.

Your picture of [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] on a girl is lovely. I do like it for a girl, too, but I find myself loving it more and more for a boy…anyway, here is [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] [name_m]Irvin[/name_m] from [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] Goudge’s novel, A City of Bells, which started this whole thing for me. A City of Bells describes him as having “fair, close-cut hair and mustache…trim figure, well-brushed clothes…” He limps a little from a leg wound from World War 1.
There’s a much more charming description from the sequel, The [name_u]Blue[/name_u] Hills, after [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] has married his sweetheart: “[name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] had been a soldier before he became a bookseller and [name_f]Felicity[/name_f]'s husband, and the three things that he was were an odd mixture that yet worked out better than one would have expected. He had a soldier’s trim figure, a bookseller’s serene and owlish expression, due to absorbing the wisdom of books day in and day out until at last he could not help being wise as an owl himself, and the happy but rather surprised eyes of the prince in the fairy tale who has married the princess, and finds that ‘happily ever after’ is not just a pretty phrase but a state of existence that one can really enjoy.”

For me, I’ve only ever heard [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] on a girl. Not a big fan of the name even on a girl. But jst had a suggestion. My mom’s friend has a son named [name_m]Jotham[/name_m]. I absolutely love this name and has a similar feel to [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] so just thought I’d mention

I like it, especially when spelled Joscelin.

I think [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] would be awesome on a guy. In the US, it is definitely more popular on girls (I know a few) but [name_u]Joss[/name_u] would be awesome. I don’t see it any different than [name_u]Riley[/name_u], [name_u]Aubrey[/name_u], [name_u]Kelly[/name_u], or [name_u]Avery[/name_u] (all of which I know boys). I think most people would be kind of shocked to see that [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] is a guy rather than a girl, and yes, teasing is bad, but really, after elementary school it goes away (name wise). I think unisex names should stay unisex, and I would like to meet more guys named [name_u]Aubrey[/name_u] and [name_u]Kelly[/name_u]; but sigh.

[name_m]Jotham[/name_m] is on my list–thanks! Awesome name.