I’m a tiny bit paranoid that the royals are going to “steal” the name [name_f]Rose[/name_f] (if they have a girl, and we have a girl, and I can convince my husband to love [name_f]Rose[/name_f], anyway).
Wasn’t [name_f]Rose[/name_f] a nickname of the late [name_f]Diana[/name_f]'s? Maybe given to her by her friend [name_m]Elton[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] or something like that?
I don’t think I will want to use it if they do. Luckily, I am not due for a long time and they are, like, in the throes of labor or will be soon. But I doubt I can find something else I like so much. [name_f]Rose[/name_f] was the name of [name_f]Laura[/name_f] Ingalls [name_m]Wilder[/name_m]'s daughter and I’ve recently remembered how much I loved that name when I was growing up & reading the books.
Anybody else have this strange, irrational fear lately? [name_u]Royal[/name_u] namenapping paranoia?
[name_m]Hi[/name_m] [name_m]Mills[/name_m]
I doubt they will use [name_f]Rose[/name_f]. I don’t think it would be considered formal enough - the bookies are offering bets on [name_f]Victoria[/name_f], [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] and the like - very much the “usual” royal names. Funnily enough I had a paranoid fear the other day that they might use [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f] [name_f]Pearl[/name_f] and it would look like I had borrowed their name for [name_f]Penelope[/name_f]'s middle names - especially as they will be born so close together - I would look like some kind of royal superfan in years to come!
I do hope it is a girl though. I got married the same year as [name_f]Kate[/name_f] and [name_m]Wills[/name_m] and had my boy the same year as [name_m]George[/name_m] so a princess born the same year as [name_u]Pen[/name_u] would be nice.
p.s. - it was Candle in the wind where [name_m]Elton[/name_m] called [name_f]Diana[/name_f] “[name_f]England[/name_f]'s [name_f]Rose[/name_f]”, but she was known more as the “People’s [name_f]Princess[/name_f]”. x
I totally get this fear! I don’t know anything about royal naming habits, but I do sometimes get paranoid that either royalty or like, a Kardashian will “steal” one of my favorite names.
I [name_u]LOVE[/name_u] [name_f]Rose[/name_f] as a first name, too.
Heh, I remember when [name_m]Prince[/name_m] [name_m]George[/name_m] was born, I was so glad that they used [name_m]Alexander[/name_m] as a middle name instead of a first. Normally I wouldn’t really care about something like that, but considering that I had just given birth to my son [name_m]William[/name_m] the month before and that [name_f]Catherine[/name_f] was our top choice for a girl (which we did use when [name_f]Cate[/name_f] was born last [name_f]September[/name_f]), if they had also named their son [name_m]Alexander[/name_m] (our top choice for another boy if we can ever decide on a middle name), that definitely would have been way too much British royalty for one sibset! So, I understand where you’re coming from. That being said, I agree with pps that it’s unlikely they’ll use [name_f]Rose[/name_f] as a first name, so I wouldn’t worry too much.
I have a friend in this same boat. She gave birth in [name_u]November[/name_u] to a baby girl named [name_f]Alice[/name_f], which is one of the top bets apparently if it’s a girl. She’s so nervous they’re going to “steal” her name!
I remember when [name_m]George[/name_m] was born there were comments from my Canadian friends saying urgh what a horrible clunky name. Of course it’s a quite common, and indeed very royal, name here in the UK. [name_m]Just[/name_m] as with [name_f]Alice[/name_f] and [name_f]Victoria[/name_f] for the girls, which wouldn’t be out of place in royal or pleb circles.
Girls of [name_f]Diana[/name_f]'s complexion are often referred to as an English rose, which is the national flower. So it wasn’t a particular nickname for her but simply a way of implying that she was the physical embodiment of [name_f]England[/name_f] itself.
I think you can be 100% certain there will not be a [name_f]Princess[/name_f] [name_f]Rose[/name_f], it’s just not royal enough.
I agree with others that [name_f]Rose[/name_f] probably won’t be on the table for them, but I understand the fear! I get nervous every time it’s announced that someone famous is pregnant, or even when distant relatives or old high school friends are pregnant, or a popular author announces a new book. So, so worried someone’s going to use one of our favourite names and make it unusable! And it’s so silly because of course no one “owns” a name, but there are just some cases where I wouldn’t feel comfortable using a name I love. Royals using it for their baby is definitely one of those situations!
I totally get the fear!! Like the other ladies said, I don’t think you need to worry about [name_f]Rose[/name_f] being taken by the royals. [name_m]Even[/name_m] if it is, [name_f]Rose[/name_f] is such a popular name, that I don’t think the connotation will be too strong. But that “name-stealing” fear is affecting me now because my two best friends are expecting, and I am so afraid they will take one of the names I like for my future child! Lol! It’s not irrational, don’t worry
As others have said, there’s no way a princess of [name_f]England[/name_f] will be named [name_f]Rose[/name_f] as a first name… the baby will surely have a royal name. If it’s a girl that probably means [name_f]Anne[/name_f], [name_f]Catherine[/name_f], [name_f]Mary[/name_f] or [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], possibly [name_f]Victoria[/name_f]. Within the main line of succession, they don’t use names that can’t follow [name_m]King[/name_m] or [name_f]Queen[/name_f] and sound proper. [name_f]Queen[/name_f] [name_f]Rose[/name_f]? No way. [name_m]King[/name_m] [name_m]Alexander[/name_m]? No way. [name_m]King[/name_m] [name_m]George[/name_m] VII? Yes! I wouldn’t even put any money on [name_f]Diana[/name_f] as a first name - it’s just not royal enough. Of course this baby won’t be the heir, and they tend to get a bit more free when the baby isn’t actually expected to be a monarch one day, but still.
Besides, what does it matter? Correct me if I’m wrong but this isn’t your royal family, is it? Surely people don’t really care in [name_u]America[/name_u]? I don’t think most people in the UK even care… I absolutely could not care less and [name_m]Prince[/name_m] [name_m]William[/name_m] will probably be head of my home state one day. This baby is not going to be part of your life, and it will definitely have a pretty common, standard name, nothing that would make anyone think you were copying [name_m]Prince[/name_m] [name_m]William[/name_m] and the Duchess of Cambridge if you chose the same one.
I also don’t think they’ll pick [name_f]Rose[/name_f] but I understand your fear. I really hope they don’t pick my daughter’s name [name_f]Mary[/name_f], which I could definitely see happening. I think it would cause it to rise in popularity and possibly make a come back at least a bit. I love that [name_f]Mary[/name_f] is such a traditional girl’s name but you don’t hear it frequently anymore. I also hope they don’t choose [name_f]Margaret[/name_f] since that’s what we’re doing for our daughter due in [name_f]May[/name_f]. However I don’t worry too much about that one since I don’t think [name_f]Princess[/name_f] [name_f]Margaret[/name_f] is namesake material.
We almost did [name_f]Rose[/name_f] for our baby and it’s going to be her middle name. Good luck convincing your husband. My husband was meh about [name_f]Rose[/name_f].
Thanks for weighing in, everybody. [name_f]Hope[/name_f] you’re right! I like [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f] or [name_m]Henry[/name_m] for them, but nobody’s asking me.
@jackal, very true, it’s not my country’s royalty, but they’re always all over the magazines and I feel like everyone would start loving [name_f]Rose[/name_f] and using it as a first name for their daughters if it somehow were to be picked by them.
@feberin, my husband keeps saying it’s an old lady name! That’s kinda why I like it, though. Plus, who doesn’t love [name_f]Rose[/name_f] Nylund from [name_u]Golden[/name_u] Girls? I love [name_f]Mary[/name_f], too. I was almost a [name_f]Mary[/name_f], but then my dad decided unilaterally I would be named [name_f]Laura[/name_f]. I think I would want to use [name_f]Mary[/name_f] for another daughter if we didn’t already have a [name_f]Marie[/name_f] in the middle spot for #3.
Yeah, I don’t see [name_f]Rose[/name_f] happening. I kind of forgot about them and their baby. She is due right about now so these next few weeks will be fun to wait. But oh god, they should NOT have a boy, and if they do, they SHOULD NOT name him [name_m]Henry[/name_m]… [name_m]Just[/name_m] saying. Please? This wasn’t even a worry for me before this thread, ughhh. Haha.
It’s not them using the name that’s scary – it’s the sudden exposure and sudden swell of interest in the name that follows, which runs the risk of making the name even more popular than it already is.
Totally agree, I think I read somewhere (it may have been on this site) that [name_f]Alice[/name_f] was a big contender. The thing is they don’t need to be quite as formal with this baby as they were for [name_m]George[/name_m], I’m quite scared for [name_f]Matilda[/name_f] and [name_f]Adelaide[/name_f]. There was a [name_f]Queen[/name_f] [name_f]Matilda[/name_f] ages ago and [name_f]Adelaide[/name_f] was popular amongst the royals in the [name_f]Georgiana[/name_f] period what with all the Germanic kings.
My vote personally is on [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f] for a girl and [name_m]Edward[/name_m] for a boy, which would be a shame because they are both such stunning names!
I just have to say that I am so glad that I am not a princess! Or a duchess or whatever she is. Can you imagine being restricted to only names that your husband’s family had previously used, and then on top of that, having to consider the socio-political implications of each name? This all sounds exhausting.
I doubt that’s true. I also think [name_f]Kate[/name_f] and [name_m]William[/name_m] might use [name_f]Rose[/name_f]. They did say they chose names they love for their son [name_m]George[/name_m], and I can see them using any non-nonsense names (including [name_f]Rose[/name_f], [name_f]Matilda[/name_f], [name_f]Cecilia[/name_f]/[name_f]Cecily[/name_f], [name_f]Rosamund[/name_f], [name_f]Eloise[/name_f], [name_f]Eliza[/name_f], [name_f]Bethany[/name_f], anything proper/serious/formal etc…)
It’s definitely true, trust me. You have to understand our royal family - they have extremely many restrictions placed on every single part of their lives, and this is more true the more likely they are to inherit the throne. There is even talk that when [name_m]Charles[/name_m] acedes to the throne (if [name_f]Betty[/name_f] ever dies!), maybe he will not go by [name_m]King[/name_m] [name_m]Charles[/name_m] but instead will choose one of his middle names. [name_m]Even[/name_m] though he has been called [name_m]Charles[/name_m] all his life, some have raised concerns about negative associations with [name_m]Charles[/name_m] I (who was beheaded). They honestly don’t lead anything like normal lives, in any way. As charming as you might find [name_m]Prince[/name_m] [name_m]William[/name_m] in the media, he’s not living on the same planet as the rest of us.
I have no doubt that they liked the name [name_m]George[/name_m], but when it came to the first name for a son in direct line to inherit the throne, their choice was definitely limited, and [name_m]George[/name_m] was an excellent choice politically.
Honestly, I think that even if [name_f]Kate[/name_f] weren’t a duchess she would have still picked a name like [name_m]George[/name_m]. You’ve got [name_f]Catherine[/name_f] [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], [name_f]Philippa[/name_f] [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f], and [name_u]James[/name_u] [name_m]William[/name_m] on her side of the family–all traditional, royal-ish names. [name_f]Kate[/name_f] has always seemed thoroughly proper and upper middle class, and I don’t see her having much desire to rock the boat with baby names.
On a side note, [name_f]Kate[/name_f]‘s siblings’ names are precisely why I don’t think we’ll see [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f] or [name_u]James[/name_u] as firsts for this baby (nor [name_m]Henry[/name_m], that’s [name_m]Harry[/name_m]'s given name!). I’m hoping for an [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f] or [name_m]Arthur[/name_m].
Back to the OP’s question–I don’t think that [name_f]Rose[/name_f] can be ruled out for being “not royal enough.” [name_f]Princess[/name_f] [name_f]Margaret[/name_f]'s middle was [name_f]Rose[/name_f], and there’s Lady [name_f]Rose[/name_f] [name_m]Gilman[/name_m], daughter of the [name_f]Queen[/name_f]'s cousin, who was raised at [name_m]Kensington[/name_m] [name_m]Palace[/name_m]. But like others, I have a hunch that it’s more likely to take a place in the middle spot.
Never mind, you guys! I’m having a boy! (Unless my double-check 4D ultrasound tomorrow morning says otherwise). I’m kind of in mourning for the name [name_f]Rose[/name_f].
So for now, the negotiations with the husband have pushed [name_m]Paul[/name_m] to the middle spot. [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_m]Paul[/name_m] is the tentative name. T.P. would be the first two initials–not sure how I feel about that, but that’s what we’ve got for now!
