Liberty, Equality, Nameberry

It’s early 1794 in [name_u]Paris[/name_u], the [name_m]French[/name_m] Revolution is at its peak, and two babies are about to get names that will make them hate their parents…

I need your help naming the newborn twin children of a fervently revolutionary [name_m]French[/name_m] couple. Names got really silly during the Revolution as everyone scrambled to demonstrate their patriotism at the expense of their children’s dignity, and [name_m]Armand[/name_m], the twins’ father, exemplifies this. He wants to name them things like Défenseur de la Liberté and Citoyenne Vertueuse (Defender of [name_f]Liberty[/name_f] and Virtuous Citizen respectively.) He definitely won’t accept anything to do with the monarchy, religion, the old calendar, or any enemy of the Revolution, so Régine, [name_m]Baptiste[/name_m], [name_f]Avril[/name_f], and [name_m]Louis[/name_m] are right out. Instead, he’d like a name from [name_m]Greco[/name_m]-[name_m]Roman[/name_m] mythology or history, a nature word, or a reference to something Revolution-approved, like [name_u]Rousseau[/name_u] or the battle of Valmy. He’d probably name his daughter Guillotine if his wife let him.

Of course, his wife definitely won’t let him. She’s a loyal Jacobin too, but she insists on names that the children can actually use. Nothing too extreme. She also wants something with good nickname options, so the children can have some degree of choice. Her last condition is that the name not belong to anyone she knows or knew - so, no Marat or [name_m]Maximilien[/name_m]. Otherwise, she’s on board with the silliness.

In summary, here are the rules:
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Now… do your worst! :cool:

I feel I should mention that [name_f]Victoire[/name_f] was one of [name_m]King[/name_m] [name_m]Louis[/name_m] XVI’s aunts, so if this family wants to reject all things royal, [name_f]Victoire[/name_f] would not be the way to go.
[name_m]French[/name_m] Word Names:
[name_f]Alouette[/name_f]
[name_f]Soleil[/name_f]
Amérique
[name_f]Dimanche[/name_f]
Doré
Délice
Lumière
Nichée
[name_f]Satin[/name_f]é
[name_f]Pomme[/name_f]
[name_f]Plaire[/name_f]
[name_f]Mar[/name_f]ée
[name_f]Lune[/name_f]
[name_f]Fleur[/name_f]
[name_f]Fleurette[/name_f]
[name_u]Del[/name_u]á
Bonté
Aleá
[name_f]Aliz[/name_f]é

Myth Names
[name_f]Aphrodite[/name_f]
[name_f]Aurora[/name_f]/[name_f]Aurore[/name_f]
[name_f]Brigid[/name_f]
[name_f]Ceres[/name_f]
[name_f]Cybele[/name_f]/[name_f]Sybille[/name_f]
[name_f]Diana[/name_f]/[name_f]Diane[/name_f]
[name_f]Enid[/name_f]
[name_f]Irene[/name_f]/Irène

I just realised that You wanted boys names too. I’ll get back to you with those later.

Thank you! [name_m]Ah[/name_m] well, no [name_f]Victoire[/name_f], then. (My royalist alarms are going off at [name_f]Dimanche[/name_f], though. [name_f]Sunday[/name_f]? There are no Sundays in the Republican [name_m]Calendar[/name_m]! righteous fury xD)

Aaaalright, here’s what I’ve got for girls so far. I’m not too confident about the nicknames, so hopefully someone more familiar with [name_m]French[/name_m] can help me out.

[name_f]Sarah[/name_f] - Sillette
[name_f]Faustine[/name_f] - Fanon, Tinette
[name_f]Marianne[/name_f] - lots of nicknames
Éve - [name_f]Evie[/name_f]
[name_f]Aurore[/name_f] - Roro, Rorette
Verité - [name_f]Vera[/name_f], [name_f]Vivi[/name_f]
Liberté - Libi, Bertine, [name_f]Bibi[/name_f]
Acanthe - Cantette, Canto
Mégara - [name_f]Meg[/name_f], Méga
[name_f]Maia[/name_f] - [name_f]Mimi[/name_f], [name_f]Manon[/name_f]
[name_m]Tigr[/name_m]ée - Tigrette, Tigrelle
Bonté - Bontette, Bonbon
Étincelle - Cecelle, [name_f]Celine[/name_f]
[name_f]Nina[/name_f] - [name_f]Ninette[/name_f], [name_f]Ninon[/name_f]
Rébecca - [name_f]Becca[/name_f], [name_f]Bebe[/name_f], Réba
[name_f]Alouette[/name_f] - Alou, Louette, [name_f]Loulou[/name_f]
Génie - Génou, [name_f]Gigi[/name_f]
[name_f]Virginia[/name_f] - [name_f]Gini[/name_f], [name_f]Gigi[/name_f], [name_f]Ginette[/name_f], [name_f]Vivi[/name_f]
Carmagnole - Magnon
Galatée - [name_f]Gala[/name_f]
[name_f]Diana[/name_f] - [name_f]Didi[/name_f], [name_f]Nanette[/name_f], [name_f]Nana[/name_f]
Théorie - Théo, Terette, [name_u]Orie[/name_u]
[name_f]Lune[/name_f] - [name_f]Lulu[/name_f], [name_f]Lunette[/name_f]
Unité - Uni
[name_f]France[/name_f] - [name_f]Francine[/name_f], [name_f]Francie[/name_f], etc.
Maîtrise - Triset, [name_f]Mimi[/name_f]
[name_f]Fleur[/name_f] - [name_f]Fleurette[/name_f]
[name_f]Mar[/name_f]ée
[name_f]Pomme[/name_f]

Sadly, [name_m]Mort[/name_m]-de-la-Tyrannie, Vertu-et-Terreur, and Constitution didn’t quite make the cut.

[name_f]Aurore[/name_f] could be part of a longer name, meaning “[name_f]Dawn[/name_f] of the Republic” or “[name_f]Dawn[/name_f] of the Revolution” or something.
I like Unité, [name_f]Fleur[/name_f], and Verité.
Oh, la Liberté ou la [name_m]Mort[/name_m] (liberty or death) was actually used then, as was Racine de la Liberté (root of freedom).
Éponine was common then even before Les Mis, and apparently [name_f]Nina[/name_f] is a nickname.
Aglaé, from Aglaia (a grace)

Robespierre would be an understandable middle, or [name_m]Danton[/name_m], or Marat/Maratine. Would the wife still object if it were a middle? [name_m]Even[/name_m] today in [name_f]France[/name_f] it’s common to have a longer name, with one or more of the names (first or middles) being a godparent, saint, or someone they admire. And the day-to-day name used is/was often not the first name.
[name_m]Jacques[/name_m] or Jacobus after the Jacobins, perhaps?

Rébecca and [name_f]Sarah[/name_f] are biblical names, and [name_f]Nina[/name_f] was a saint—I’m not sure how well known then, though. [name_f]Eve[/name_f] is biblical too. My initial thought was that [name_f]Marianne[/name_f] felt a bit [name_m]Christian[/name_m] (virgin [name_f]Mary[/name_f] + her mother [name_f]Anne[/name_f]), but I’d forgotten: [name_f]Marianne[/name_f] is the personification of liberty and reason, and would have just been gaining in popularity in the early 1790s. So [name_f]Marianne[/name_f] as a first or middle would be rather perfect.

Have you seen this? http://www.nancy.cc/2011/09/09/revolution-era-names-in-france/ Apparently plant names were weirdly common for a while.

I hadn’t seen that particular list, but I’m definitely aware of the plant trend - it was because of the Republican [name_m]Calendar[/name_m] assigning a plant (or tool or animal) to each day instead of a saint, leading people to use them instead of saints’ names. One of the possibilities for the boy’s name is going to be Artichaut. xD

I figured [name_f]Rebecca[/name_f] and [name_f]Sarah[/name_f] might get a pass because they’re Old Testament names, but I’m not certain. [name_f]Eve[/name_f] is acceptable because she symbolically chose to pursue truth and freedom rather than blindly accept the tyranny of religion, and because of the idea of the children being part of the firstborn generation of the Republic.
Oh, I like Aglaé!

Good point on the multiple middle names. Maratine would probably work as a middle name. Or [name_f]Jacobine[/name_f], perhaps?

The exhortation names like “Va de Bon Coeur pour la République” amuse me. I feel like, if Marat had had a son, he would have named him something like “Deliver All Men from Tyranny and Baptize Them with the Blood of Their Oppressors.” He could go by [name_m]Baptiste[/name_m] for short.

Edit: That would be “Délivre Tous de la Tyrannie et Baptise-les dans le Sang de leurs Oppresseurs,” I think? Definitely needs its own Nameberry page. :smiley:

Artichaut…love it! Can he pretend his name is [name_m]Arthur[/name_m] when he gets older? Ooh, or could there be some play on words about artichoke hearts and how the heart of truth is freedom for all mankind? …That might be too long and strange even for a Jacobin baby.

I like the sound of Aglaé Maratine, maybe Aglaé Maratine [name_f]Eve[/name_f]?
I still love the idea of something long and ridiculous like [name_f]Fleur[/name_f] de la Vérité. I know of a modern family that named all its kids very long naturey images, like “Cool [name_f]Meadow[/name_f] Before the [name_u]Rain[/name_u] [name_m]Jones[/name_m]”, usually nicknamed [name_f]Meadow[/name_f] or [name_u]Glen[/name_u] or other familiar-enough names.

I’m laughing my head off over poor wee [name_m]Baptiste[/name_m].

And I really want to read your story. This sounds smashing.

resurrects thread

Ages later, I’m returning to this story and these names! What do you make of these options?

Boy:
Idéal [name_m]Maximilien[/name_m] [name_m]David[/name_m] Chauvelin (nickname: Dédi)
Gatien Périclès Ockham Chauvelin (nickname: Tienot)
[name_u]Corin[/name_u] [name_u]Michel[/name_u] Démosthène Chauvelin (nickname: Cricri)
Quintilien Emeric Indomptable Chauvelin (nicknames: [name_m]Quint[/name_m], [name_f]Tilly[/name_f]?)

Girl:
[name_f]Virginia[/name_f] [name_f]France[/name_f] Liberté Chauvelin (potential nicknames: [name_f]Gigi[/name_f], [name_f]Ninon[/name_f])
Théorie [name_f]Eve[/name_f] Maratine Chauvelin (nicknames: Théo, Terette)
[name_f]Sarah[/name_f] Rébecca Unité Chauvelin (nickname: Sillette)
[name_m]Tigr[/name_m]ée [name_f]Marianne[/name_f] Vertu Chauvelin (nicknames: Tigrette, Tigrelle)

I’d especially like feedback on the nickname options, since I’m not so sure about them.