Middles for Our Baby (Maybe) Girl

After managing to make a top 5 for our Maybe Girl, we’ve managed to make a middle name list! Since two of our boy names have amazing paintings to their names, my boyfriend decided he’d like one of the middles to be from a painting we love (he’s a little bit crazy, ignore it if you can’t work one in). We’d love it if you’ve got any amazing nature name suggestions for us!

Our girl names are Belphoebe, [name]Ceridwen[/name], Hespera, Illyria and Tinuviel, if you’d like to make us some combos (two middles, last name one syllable, ends in -s).

paintings:
[name]Alcyone[/name]
[name]Ariadne[/name]
[name]Circe[/name]
[name]Beata[/name]/[name]Beatrix[/name]
[name]Dido[/name]/[name]Elissa[/name]
[name]Elaine[/name]
[name]Eos[/name]
[name]Eurydice[/name]
[name]Lamia[/name]
[name]Miranda[/name]
[name]Ophelia[/name]
[name]Pandora[/name]
[name]Psyche[/name]

mythology/literature:
[name]Arcadia[/name]
[name]Atalanta[/name]
[name]Callisto[/name]
Chione
Cyrene
Evelake
Evenstar
[name]Melusine[/name]
[name]Nephele[/name]
Niniane
[name]Thalassa[/name]
Villanelle

nature:
Bluebonnet
Fairywren
[name]Fawn[/name]
Meadowsweet
Rosefinch
Snowfinch
Vivendel
Winterrose/Winterose/[name]Winter[/name]-[name]Rose[/name]

edit: more middles on page 2!

Thank you!

My fav from your girl names is Belphoebe, so I am going to go for:
Belphoebe [name]Thalassa[/name] [name]Beatrix[/name]

I will assume you last name is [name]Bliss[/name], so I can easier suggest combos…

I will suggest Belphoebe [name]Winter[/name]-[name]Rose[/name] [name]Bliss[/name], Illyria [name]Melusine[/name] [name]Blue[/name] [name]Bliss[/name], [name]Ceridwen[/name] Niniane [name]Snow[/name] [name]Bliss[/name]… I suggest you to short Snowfinch and Bluebonnet to [name]Blue[/name] and [name]Snow[/name] because they are very long names. But, if you think that’s no big deal…
Belphoebe [name]Winter[/name]-[name]Rose[/name] [name]Bliss[/name], Illyria [name]Dido[/name] Snowfinch [name]Bliss[/name], [name]Ceridwen[/name] Bluebonnet [name]Elissa[/name] [name]Bliss[/name]…

I like Niniane as first name more than [name]Ceridwen[/name] or Illyria.

Your posts are so much fun! Let’s see… I’m not very good at this but these are my suggestions:

[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Elaine[/name] Niniane

Belphoebe [name]Ariadne[/name] Vivendel

Hespera Cyrene [name]Fawn[/name]

Illyria Ninane [name]Beatrix[/name]

Tinuviel [name]Circe[/name] [name]Melusine[/name]

And even though Niniane is off the first name list :frowning:

Niniane [name]Ophelia[/name] [name]Rose[/name]/[name]Snow[/name] ([name]Winter[/name]-rose/Snowfinch)

Everything I tried seemed to be a mouthful for me. My best combo idea is… Belphoebe [name]Ophelia[/name] Snowfinch.

Good [name]Luck[/name]!

Belpheobe -Favourite!
Belpheobe [name]Nephele[/name] [name]Ariadne[/name] ?

Tinuviel [name]Circe[/name] [name]Thalassa[/name] [name]Bliss[/name], Hespera Evelake Vivendel [name]Bliss[/name]. I think these are my favourites, especially the second one! Hespera has a lovely meaning. When I think of the full name it reminds me of misty nights, deep lakes and ancient forests. Using [name]Bliss[/name] as the surrogate surname as an earlier post did.

Tinuviel [name]Ariadne[/name] [name]Callisto[/name]

[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Ophelia[/name] Snowfinch or [name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Atalanta[/name] [name]Nephele[/name]

Belphoebe Niniane [name]Arcadia[/name] or Belphoebe [name]Alcyone[/name] Rosefinch

Illyria [name]Beatrix[/name] [name]Winter[/name]-[name]Rose[/name]

Hespera [name]Fawn[/name] Evelake or Hespera Vivendel [name]Eos[/name]

I really love [name]Ceridwen[/name] and Hespera.

[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Beatrix[/name] [name]Winter[/name]-[name]Rose[/name]
Hespera Evenstar [name]Alcyone[/name]

Belphoebe [name]Miranda[/name] [name]Fawn[/name]
Belphoebe [name]Alcyone[/name] Vivendel

[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Arcadia[/name] [name]Elissa[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Thalassa[/name] [name]Eos[/name]

Hespera Chione Rosefinch
Hespera [name]Ariadne[/name] [name]Nephele[/name]

Illyria [name]Eurydice[/name] Evelake
Illyria [name]Atlanta[/name] Snowfinch

Tinuviel [name]Beata[/name] [name]Melusine[/name]
Tinuviel Niniane [name]Winter[/name]-[name]Rose[/name]

First Name Favourites:
~ Belphoebe
~ Hespera

Middle Name Favourites:
~ [name]Ariadne[/name]
~ [name]Beatrix[/name]
~ [name]Miranda[/name]
~ [name]Ophelia[/name]
~ [name]Pandora[/name]
~ [name]Callista[/name] (Prefer this to [name]Callisto[/name]!)
~ [name]Thalassa[/name]
~ [name]Fawn[/name]

Combinations: (Sorry for any repeats!)
Belphoebe [name]Miranda[/name] [name]Fawn[/name]
Belphoebe [name]Beatrix[/name] [name]Callista[/name]
Belphoebe [name]Thalassa[/name] [name]Ariadne[/name]

Hespera [name]Ophelia[/name] [name]Fawn[/name]
Hespera [name]Ariadne[/name] [name]Pandora[/name]
Hespera [name]Thalassa[/name] [name]Beatrix[/name]

:slight_smile:

1 Belphoebe [name]Miranda[/name] Evelake
2 [name]Ceridwen[/name] Rosefinch [name]Arcadia[/name]
3 Illyria [name]Dido[/name] Evenstar
4 Hespera [name]Elaine[/name] Bluebonnet
5 Tinuviel [name]Beata[/name] Meadowsweet

[name]Ottilie[/name], it’s a very big list. A couple of things to start out with to make selection easier:

  1. each potential first is 3 or 4 syllables, paired with a monosyllabic surname. This means optimally your two middles would be:
    3-1-2-1; 3-2-3-1; 4-2-2-1; 4-1-3-1; 4-1-2-1

There is a paucity of 1/2 syllable middle name options.

  1. I think the first names are so strong and evocative that they could be paired with, at best, one equally strong mythological, literary or historical middle.

  2. the phonetics of each first will automatically rule out some middle options.

  3. lastly-- could you tell us if [name]Baby[/name]'s surname is a word-name, and what letter it begins with?

  4. from a metrical perspective, your middles are very similar except the French e-[name]LAINE[/name], where the emphasis is on the second syllable. [name]Dido[/name] is very hard to use since each syllable is equally emphasized; it sounds choppy in nearly any combination.

  5. Since a painterly middle must be included, I’ll start with those:

Belphoebe can go with nothing ending in the Greek -e; no repetitive B; and the best option would be something ending in a consonant:

[name]Dido[/name]/[name]Elissa[/name]
[name]Elaine[/name]
[name]Eos[/name]
[name]Lamia[/name]
[name]Miranda[/name]
[name]Ophelia[/name]
[name]Pandora[/name]

For meter: the best by far is Belphoebe [name]ELAINE[/name].

[name]Ceridwen[/name] should be paired with something ending in a vowel; nothing longer than [name]Ceridwen[/name] itself; no repetitive D/C sound:

[name]Beata[/name]
[name]Elissa[/name]
[name]Lamia[/name]
[name]Miranda[/name]
[name]Ophelia[/name]
[name]Pandora[/name]
[name]Psyche[/name]

To my ear, the smoothest sound by far is the starts-and-ends-with-a-vowel [name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]OPHELIA[/name]. Also works: [name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]BEATA[/name], [name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]ELISSA[/name], [name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]MIRANDA[/name], and [name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]PANDORA[/name].

Hespera : no 4-syllable names; nothing ending with A. It sounds nice with your Greek -e, and very nice with [name]Elaine[/name], with the stress on the ultimate syllable. No S sounds-- too hissy.

[name]Beatrix[/name]
[name]Dido[/name]
[name]Elaine[/name]

Hespera [name]BEATRIX[/name] and Hespera [name]ELAINE[/name] both work.

Illyria is very, very smooth. Liquid and gliding. Illyria needs consonants, and nothing ending with -a nor starting with a vowel ([name]Eurydice[/name] works since it actually begins with a Y consonant sound). It too sounds great with your Greek -e. [name]Don[/name]'t repeat the L sound.

[name]Circe[/name]
[name]Beatrix[/name]
[name]Dido[/name]
[name]Eurydice[/name]
[name]Psyche[/name]

Illyria [name]EURYDICE[/name], Illyria [name]BEATRIX[/name], and Illyria [name]CIRCE[/name] all work.

Tinuviel Beautiful and lilting; cannot go beyond 3 syllables. Would be lovely with more vowel sounds, similar to [name]Ceridwen[/name] in that respect. Can’t repeat the [name]EL[/name] sound.

[name]Circe[/name]
[name]Beata[/name]
[name]Dido[/name]
[name]Eos[/name]
[name]Miranda[/name]
[name]Pandora[/name]
[name]Psyche[/name]

My favorite is Tinuviel [name]BEATA[/name], but Tinuviel [name]EOS[/name], Tinuviel [name]CIRCE[/name], Tinuviel [name]MIRANDA[/name], Tinuviel [name]PANDORA[/name], and Tinuviel [name]PSYCHE[/name] are possible. The best possible pairing with Tinuviel would be a 2-syllable name with emphasis on the last syllable, starting with a vowel. Consider (just for meter/flow, not an actual suggestion): Tinuviel [name]ARLENE[/name].

  1. OK. Since each painterly middle is actually a mythological name, that strikes a great deal from your other possible middles. You are left with:

[name]Arcadia[/name]
Evelake
Evenstar
[name]Thalassa[/name]
Villanelle
Bluebonnet
Fairywren
[name]Fawn[/name]
Meadowsweet
Rosefinch
Snowfinch
Vivendel
Winterrose/Winterose/[name]Winter[/name]-[name]Rose[/name]

Most of these are far too long to work well. I would amend them, if you’re open to it, to:

[name]Arcadie[/name]
Evelake
Evenstar
[name]Maris[/name]
[name]Nelle[/name]
[name]Wren[/name]
[name]Fawn[/name]
[name]Meadow[/name]
[name]Finch[/name]
[name]Snow[/name]
Vive
[name]Winter[/name]
[name]Rose[/name]

So, working with the shortlist:

Belphoebe [name]ELAINE[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]OPHELIA[/name]
Illyria [name]EURYDICE[/name]
Illyria [name]BEATRIX[/name]
Tinuviel [name]BEATA[/name]
Tinuviel [name]EOS[/name]
Tinuviel [name]CIRCE[/name]
Tinuviel [name]MIRANDA[/name]
Hespera [name]BEATRIX[/name]
Hespera [name]ELAINE[/name]

My thoughts:

Belphoebe [name]Arcadia[/name] [name]Elaine[/name]

[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]OPHELIA[/name] [name]Snow[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Ophelia[/name] Vive
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Ophelia[/name] Mist

Illyria [name]EURYDICE[/name] [name]Rose[/name]
Illyria [name]Eurydice[/name] [name]Snow[/name]
Illyria [name]Eurydice[/name] [name]Wren[/name]

Illyria [name]BEATRIX[/name] Mist
Illyria [name]Beatrix[/name] Wilde
Illyria [name]Beatrix[/name] Evenstar

Tinuviel [name]BEATA[/name] Wylde

Tinuviel [name]CIRCE[/name] Evenstar

Tinuviel [name]MIRANDA[/name] [name]Maris[/name]

Hespera [name]BEATRIX[/name] [name]Snow[/name]
Hespera [name]Beatrix[/name] [name]Nelle[/name]

Hespera [name]Meadow[/name] [name]ELAINE[/name]

To be honest, I really like some of your beautiful mythological middles (like Niniane and [name]Nephele[/name]) more than your painterly names.

I’m not crazy about any of these combos… I wonder if there are other 1/2 syllable names you’d consider to throw into the mix?

[name]Elaine[/name] [name]Arcadia[/name]
[name]Elaine[/name] [name]Thalassa[/name]
[name]Elaine[/name] [name]Atalanta[/name]

[name]Just[/name] passing the time away and trying to ignore my contractions…
love,
[name]Ivy[/name], [name]Eva[/name], and baby [name]Aurelia[/name]

So many names! My brain is aswim in elaborate visions of pre-Raphaelite nymphs twined with honeysuckle, but here goes…

Belphoebe [name]Ophelia[/name] Vivendel
Belphoebe [name]Ophelia[/name] Villanelle
Belphoebe Illyria [name]Melusine[/name]
Belphoebe [name]Callisto[/name] Meadowsweet

[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Atalanta[/name] [name]Eos[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Miranda[/name] [name]Melusine[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Alcyone[/name] [name]Fawn[/name]

Hespera [name]Thalassa[/name] Atalante (“ah-tah-lant” for the sake of flow)
Hespera [name]Dido[/name] Winterose

Illyria Evelake [name]Fawn[/name]

Tinuviel [name]Beata[/name] Meadowsweet

You asked for nature names. I’m not sure if these work as names, but here are some plants I like the sound of:

[name]Elm[/name]
[name]Linden[/name]
Vervain or [name]Verbena[/name]
Celandine
[name]Moss[/name]
Ipomoea (moonflower) It’s in the morning glory family. Plants that open at night are referred to as “vespertine” …same root as Hespera, obviously. Datura and Cereus are two other night-bloomers, but the former is poisonous and the latter is pronounced “serious.”
Larkspur or [name]Delphine[/name] for delphinium
Waterlily
Persimmon
[name]Rosemary[/name]
[name]Rose[/name]-[name]Otto[/name] (aka Damask [name]Rose[/name], [name]Rosa[/name]-Damascena) I like the mix of masculine-feminine in [name]Rose[/name]-[name]Otto[/name]. Also there’s the wonderful children’s book, [name]Otto[/name] of the [name]Silver[/name] Hand.
Fritillaria
Cleome
[name]Hyacinth[/name]
Mistletoe
[name]Thorn[/name]

And here I attempt to use some of these with your names:

Belphoebe [name]Rose[/name]-[name]Otto[/name] [name]Ceridwen[/name] or Belphoebe [name]Rose[/name]-[name]Otto[/name] [name]Elaine[/name]
Belphoebe [name]Elissa[/name] Celandine
Belphoebe [name]Elaine[/name] Mistletoe
Belphoebe Fritillaria [name]Fawn[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Arcadia[/name] [name]Thorn[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Melusine[/name] Waterlily
Hespera [name]Dido[/name] Ipomoea
Hespera Larkspur Villanelle
Hespera Persimmon [name]Eos[/name]
Illyria Evenstar Damask-[name]Rose[/name]
Illyria [name]Beatrix[/name] [name]Elm[/name]
Tinuviel [name]Ariadne[/name] [name]Linden[/name]
Tinuviel [name]Beata[/name] Cleome

Combos, in order of favorite first name:

Tinuviel [name]Circe[/name] Winterose
Tinuviel [name]Eos[/name] [name]Melusine[/name]
Tinuviel [name]Fawn[/name] [name]Eurydice[/name]
Tinuviel Windemere [name]Elissa[/name] (I know Windemere is not on the list but I couldn’t resist bringing it back!)
Tinuviel [name]Ariadne[/name] Silversnow (another one I couldn’t resist >_>)

Illyria [name]Eurydice[/name] [name]Nephele[/name]
Illyria Winterose [name]Elissa[/name]
Illyria [name]Circe[/name] [name]Melusine[/name]
Illyria [name]Fawn[/name] [name]Ophelia[/name]
Illyria Vivendel [name]Eos[/name]

Belphoebe Fairywren [name]Psyche[/name]
Belphoebe [name]Alcyone[/name] Meadowsweet
Belphoebe Villanelle [name]Ophelia[/name]
Belphoebe Seawillow [name]Pandora[/name] (I know, again with the Seawillow…I just can’t help it!)
Belphoebe Gossamer [name]Beatrix[/name] (another bring-back)

[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Atalanta[/name] [name]Circe[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Alcyone[/name] Chione (but only if you’re going with the [name]Al[/name] see own pronunciation…otherwise switch Chione for Villanelle)
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Elissa[/name] Evenstar
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Thalassa[/name] [name]Ariadne[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Eos[/name] [name]Arcadia[/name]

Hespera [name]Callisto[/name] [name]Eurydice[/name]
Hespera Cyrene [name]Miranda[/name]
Hespera Evelake [name]Elaine[/name]
Hespera [name]Eos[/name] Niniane
Hespera [name]Fawn[/name] [name]Arcadia[/name]

[name]LOVE[/name]:
[name]Ariadne[/name]
[name]Circe[/name]
[name]Elissa[/name]
[name]Ophelia[/name]
Cyrene
Evenstar
[name]Melusine[/name]
[name]Nephele[/name]
Fairywren
[name]Fawn[/name]
Vivendel
Winterose (but you knew that!)

Veto points go to:
[name]Beata[/name] - I see Beater with an accent, and other forms of “beat”, none of which are pleasant
[name]Dido[/name] - Inextricably linked with the singer. Also resembles dodo
[name]Lamia[/name] - Unfortunate resemblance to certain anatomy
[name]Miranda[/name] - The links to singers, rights, software companies, and sci-fi brainwashing are all stronger than the mythological association
Bluebonnet - A brand of margarine. Also a hat and a military unit.

Rosefinch - Because I prefer Rosethorn, Windrose, and especially Winterose
Snowfinch - Because I prefer Silversnow, Tinkersnow, or even Snowbird. Or just [name]Snow[/name] itself :slight_smile:

Maybe you could look at Nepenthe, similar to [name]Nephele[/name].
Nepenthe in acient greek was a cure to sorrow, basically a medicine for depression.
Personally i think its perfect for a little girl, as all babies are cures to sadness arent they?

Ooh, you guys are amazing! Waking up to this is heavenly. Thank you all so much!!! The names are a mouthful, I realize that. I’ll throw in some shorter names. And if you can’t work in a painting-name, that’s fine. That’s his crazy, not mine.

dindlee: thank you, you’re so sweet!

blade: Whoa, lots of good points there (and thanks for taking all that time!). let’s see… Last name starts with E or W if we go with mine. Mine is a word, his sounds like a word. I like your suggestions of, well all of them. Especially [name]Maris[/name], that’s a cool name. I’ve found some other 1/2 syllable names as well I’ll add to the list. I really like Belphoebe [name]Arcadia[/name] [name]Elaine[/name] and Hespera [name]Beatrix[/name] [name]Snow[/name] though…

emma: Thanks, pre-Raphaelite nymphs is what we’re going for. I like [name]Linden[/name], Vevain, Ipomoea, Larkspur, Mistletoe, Cleome and Waterlily. [name]Elm[/name] is lovely, but too close to surname.

sleepysessha: Ooh, thank you for bringing back those lovelies! I forgot about them. I love Gossamer, Seawillow, Windemere and Silversnow. And Snowbird! Yay!

Now, I am going to give you free reign. Mix and match whatever you want (obviously, you need to use one of the first names we’re set on).

[name]New[/name] additions:
[name]Maris[/name]
[name]Nelle[/name]
[name]Wren[/name]
[name]Fawn[/name]
[name]Meadow[/name]
[name]Finch[/name]
[name]Snow[/name]
Vive
[name]Winter[/name]
[name]Rose[/name]
[name]Ren[/name]
[name]Lux[/name]
Mist
[name]Joy[/name]
[name]Rain[/name]
[name]Tess[/name]
My (swedish, pronounced My-h)
[name]Lune[/name]
Lively
[name]Ivy[/name]
[name]Topaz[/name]
[name]Tindra[/name]
[name]Laurel[/name]
[name]Daphne[/name]
Lykke
Tiril
[name]Tuva[/name]
[name]Signe[/name]
[name]Hennie[/name]
[name]Saga[/name]
[name]Malou[/name]
Lerke
[name]Silke[/name]
[name]Clio[/name]
Lior
Liron
[name]Ori[/name]
[name]Nessa[/name]
[name]Eva[/name]
Gossamer
Snowbird
Silversnow
Windemere
Seawillow
[name]Linden[/name]
Vervain
Ipomoea
Larkspur
Cleome
Mistletoe
Waterlily
Wilde

What gorgeous combinations that are possible!

Belphoebe Rosefinch [name]Fawn[/name]
Belphoebe Silversnow Lerke
Belphoebe Snowbird My
Belphoebe Gossamer [name]Rose[/name]
Belphoebe [name]Tuva[/name] Evelake
Belphoebe Mistletoe Lior

[name]Ceridwen[/name] Lively [name]Topaz[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Meadow[/name] Ipomoea
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Alcyone[/name] [name]Tindra[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Circe[/name] Winterrose
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Thalassa[/name] [name]Finch[/name]
[name]Ceridwen[/name] [name]Daphne[/name] Snowfinch

Hespera Meadowsweet [name]Rose[/name]
Hespera Windemere [name]Wren[/name]
Hespera [name]Eos[/name] Evenstar
Hespera [name]Melusine[/name] [name]Snow[/name]
Hespera Waterlily [name]Ren[/name]
Hespera [name]Lune[/name] Vivendel

Illyria Larkspur Villanelle
Illyria [name]Fawn[/name] [name]Signe[/name]
Illyria Bluebonnet Vive
Illyria [name]Beatrix[/name] Mist
Illyria Chione [name]Lux[/name]
Illyria [name]Ivy[/name] [name]Linden[/name]

Tinuviel [name]Rose[/name] Fairywren
Tinuviel [name]Eva[/name] [name]Ophelia[/name]
Tinuviel Cyrene [name]Maris[/name]
Tinuviel Evelake [name]Rain[/name]
Tinuviel [name]Hennie[/name] [name]Finch[/name]
Tinuviel [name]Pandora[/name] [name]Joy[/name]

Good luck!

cupcake: I love Hespera [name]Eos[/name] Evenstar and Hespera Meadowsweet [name]Rose[/name]! Thank you!

I’m going to try and edit down the middles a little, making it easier to “play”!