Name connotations

[name_m]Hi[/name_m] all!
There are several names that I like that can be associated with darker characters in popular media. I wanted to know if you thought I would be judged for using these names on a child. All of these names I like separately from the characters but they do have influence.

[name_f]Persephone[/name_f]- kidnapped you the underworld

[name_u]Ren[/name_u]- after [name_m]Kylo[/name_m] [name_u]Ren[/name_u], my favorite [name_f]Star[/name_f] Wars character. This would most likely be used as a middle name for a little girl.

[name_f]Octavia[/name_f]- I’m not caught up with the 100 but this is for [name_f]Octavia[/name_f] [name_u]Blake[/name_u]. I know things got pretty bloody ( and maybe cannibalistic?) but I feel like she is a strong leader and I think the name is pretty on its own.

[name_m]Scorpius[/name_m]- the son of [name_m]Draco[/name_m] Malfoy. I know this is a bit harsh sounding and sounds like scorpion but I still like it.

[name_m]Enoch[/name_m]- I first heard this name on miss peregrines home for peculiar children and I do think of this character sometimes when I hear the name. He controls the dead

[name_m]Draco[/name_m]- after [name_m]Draco[/name_m] Malfoy my favorite [name_m]Harry[/name_m] [name_m]Potter[/name_m] character. I don’t see [name_m]Draco[/name_m] as the villain of the story personally. He didn’t really have a choice as he was just a child trying to please his family and in the end he did make the right choices. I know most people’s minds will go straight to this character when they hear the name as it’s a very widespread story and an uncommon name but I don’t really mind.

[name_f]Persephone[/name_f] - I don’t think of this as being extremely dark. Yes, her story in Greek mythology is, but she wasn’t evil or anything.

[name_u]Ren[/name_u] - If he’s your favorite character, I wouldn’t worry about the connotations, especially as a middle name. I would prefer [name_u]Wren[/name_u] though.

[name_f]Octavia[/name_f] - Never seen The 100. Shows are always coming in and out of style, so I definitely don’t think it would be an issue.

[name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] - Sounds way too much like scorpion for me. Could possibly work as a middle name.

[name_m]Enoch[/name_m] - Probably an obscure enough reference to avoid issues.

[name_m]Draco[/name_m] - I wouldn’t classify [name_m]Draco[/name_m] as a villain either, so it’s not a very negative or dark association for me. However, it is so overwhelmingly tied to [name_m]Harry[/name_m] [name_m]Potter[/name_m] that I’m not sure it’s usable.

[name_f]Persephone[/name_f] - I never even made the link to the underworld! Given the popularity of [name_f]Penelope[/name_f], I think people would just see it as a less common alternative.

[name_u]Ren[/name_u] - I prefer the spelling [name_u]Wren[/name_u], or maybe as a nickname for [name_f]Lauren[/name_f]. I don’t think it would be a problem.

[name_f]Octavia[/name_f]- Never seen The 100, but I’ve heard this name used before, so I imagine most people don’t make that link. Also, [name_f]Octavia[/name_f] [name_u]Spencer[/name_u] is an award winning actress, so there are definitely some goods to outweigh the bads.

[name_m]Scorpius[/name_m]- Not a fan of the name. Sounds harsh and Potterheads will almost immediately see the link. That said, [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] in and of himself wasn’t a bad character, so he doesn’t bring any negative connotations.

[name_m]Enoch[/name_m]- I first thought of British PM [name_m]Enoch[/name_m] [name_m]Powell[/name_m], then the Biblical character. I think you’ll be fine on this one.

[name_m]Draco[/name_m]- So tied to HP that I don’t think it’s really usable. Also, whilst you don’t see him as a villain, enough people do to make me think that this is one you can’t get away with.

[name_f]Persephone[/name_f]- I know the story isnt the best but i like how she’s also associated with the return of summer. [name_f]Persephone[/name_f] is nice.

[name_u]Ren[/name_u]- as a middle name for a girl, i think people could dissociate it easily from the character. It works well and is sweet

[name_f]Octavia[/name_f]- i havent heard of the character and i think most people will just see [name_f]Octavia[/name_f] as just a name in it’s own right

[name_m]Scorpius[/name_m]- it is very associated with one character but it’s stilk quite a cool name. I’d probably save it for a middle or pair it with something quite gentle like [name_u]Remy[/name_u] [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] or [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] [name_u]Jude[/name_u]

[name_m]Enoch[/name_m]- I’ve never heard of the character but i think it’s another name that would be seen in its own right rather than associated simply with one character

[name_m]Draco[/name_m]- i do really like the name - it’s cool and interesting but you would have to put up with people asking if it’s after [name_m]Draco[/name_m] Malfoy. If you dont mind that, then go for it but i don’t think that association will fade any time soon and as other posters have mentioned, many will still see your kid as named after a bully (even if he’s not strictly a villain)

The only ones that seem a bit “iffy” to me are [name_m]Enoch[/name_m] (because of negative associations in British culture through [name_m]Enoch[/name_m] [name_m]Powell[/name_m] - I’ve never heard of the fictional character), [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] (due to its similarity to “scorpion”) and [name_m]Draco[/name_m]. The others I think are fine and very useable.

[name_f]Persephone[/name_f] - looove [name_f]Persephone[/name_f], and the mythological background behind it. I don’t think that should be an issue, especially as a pp mentioned, its closeness to popular [name_f]Penelope[/name_f].
[name_u]Ren[/name_u] - I have seen a lot of people use this because of [name_m]Kylo[/name_m], so I think it could work. It’s not as obvious as using [name_m]Kylo[/name_m] itself. I personally prefer the [name_u]Wren[/name_u] spelling (especially because I’m pretty sure [name_u]Ren[/name_u] is a Japanese boy name!)
[name_f]Octavia[/name_f] - one of my absolute favorite characters! A great association to have, shes smart, strong, brave, so many good things! I don’t think many people would associate it with the show though. [name_m]Even[/name_m] a fan might not, I think [name_f]Octavia[/name_f] is a well enough established name.
[name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] - I think this may be too much of a name for someone. Maybe could work as a middle!
[name_m]Enoch[/name_m] - I do like the books, and I think [name_m]Enoch[/name_m] is a normal enough name to not be associated with the character anyway.
[name_m]Draco[/name_m] - this will absolutely be associated with [name_m]Draco[/name_m] Malfoy. You said hes your favorite character though, so you might not mind it. [name_m]Just[/name_m] remember to consider the person wearing the name might not appreciate alllll of the references.

[name_f]Persephone[/name_f] is definitely a good connotation for me. Especially if you look beyond the standard “oh she was kidnapped” and look at the interpretations where she chose to go to the Underworld. Plus, naming your child after a goddess is kinda neat if you ask me.

I love [name_u]Ren[/name_u] as a middle name, and honestly [name_m]Kylo[/name_m] isn’t my first association. [name_m]Even[/name_m] so, with the developments of the latest movie, I think you’re alright.

Not a huge fan of [name_f]Octavia[/name_f] personally, but since I haven’t watched the 100 that doesn’t have an association for me.

I kinda like [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m], and it’s not like [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] Malfoy is a bad person either.

[name_m]Enoch[/name_m] has way more of a biblical feel to me than any character (also haven’t read/watched Miss [name_u]Peregrine[/name_u] so yeah).

I actually love [name_m]Draco[/name_m] (the name). And yeah, [name_m]Draco[/name_m] Malfoy wasn’t really a great person, but he should have had a redemption arc. However, you’re right that the first and only association for me with the name is HP, and as others have mentioned, a lot of people do see him as a villain, so I’m less inclined to use this name for a real* person. *totally never named a character draco haha why do you ask

[name_f]Persephone[/name_f]- I don’t think that naming a kid this would cause them to be judged. If anything people will just identify that she’s a goddess and that’s cool.

[name_u]Ren[/name_u]- I think this is really cute! [name_f]My[/name_f] first thought is [name_u]Wren[/name_u], the bird, not [name_m]Kylo[/name_m] [name_u]Ren[/name_u].

[name_f]Octavia[/name_f]- Never seen the 100, but the name itself just sounds kinda evil to me.

[name_m]Scorpius[/name_m]- I associate this with scorpions, not [name_m]Draco[/name_m]’s son. I think that that’s the thing that would be judged by others.

[name_m]Enoch[/name_m]- definitely associate this with Miss [name_u]Peregrine[/name_u]’s Home for Peculiar Children. I’ve never seen it elsewhere, so… But the series isn’t SUPER popular still so not everyone would notice.

[name_m]Draco[/name_m]- though he may not be a villain, it’s an uncommon name that is very tied to [name_m]Harry[/name_m] [name_m]Potter[/name_m]. If someone named their kid something like [name_m]Harry[/name_m] or [name_m]Fred[/name_m], people probably wouldn’t associate it with [name_m]Harry[/name_m] [name_m]Potter[/name_m] (until they reach the stage in grade school when EVERYBODY reads the books and then it would be all they could talk about) but names like [name_m]Draco[/name_m] and [name_m]Remus[/name_m] are names that I’ve never seen anywhere BUT HP, so I would definitely associate it and others probably would as well. But if you don’t mind, then it doesn’t matter.

[name_m]Enoch[/name_m] is a [name_u]Flannery[/name_u] O’[name_m]Connor[/name_m] name from “Wise Blood”. If I’m remembering right, he was a fairly positive character.

I think [name_f]Persephone[/name_f] is useable. It’s a bold choice and some people will think of the underworld but she’s also tied to spring so that’s positive.
In my opinion [name_u]Ren[/name_u] could work well as a middle name! Except for first names that sound like [name_m]Kylo[/name_m], like [name_f]Kaylee[/name_f] [name_u]Ren[/name_u].
[name_f]Octavia[/name_f] and [name_m]Enoch[/name_m] are names that probably won’t be only associated with the characters.
[name_m]Draco[/name_m] and [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] will always be connected with [name_m]Harry[/name_m] [name_m]Potter[/name_m] for me. [name_m]Draco[/name_m] was indeed not a true villian but he was a bully, so he’s still not a great namesake. To me, [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] seems not very wearable as a first but it might work as a middle name.

In my opinion [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] and [name_m]Draco[/name_m] are the only two that are not useable. [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] just makes me think of a scorpion and do not find a scorpion fitting for a child’s name. [name_m]Draco[/name_m] in my mind is a pet name only because I did toss it around for my Huskys name and my Rottweilers name.

Ok. After hearing your guys’ thoughts [name_m]Scorpius[/name_m] is out and I feel much better about the girls names and [name_m]Enoch[/name_m]. There were mixed thoughts on [name_m]Draco[/name_m] but I just love it too much to let it go yet and my family likes it too.

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I’m not sure if you’re still wanting feedback but I thought I’d share some of my thoughts incase it’s still helpful!

Persephone - I don’t think of this as overly dark at all. It’s a pretty name and there are definitely much darker characters in Greek mythology.

Ren - I’ve never seen any [name_f]Star[/name_f] Wars films so I’m not entirely sure what the character is like. It reminds me more of [name_u]Wren[/name_u] and it’s also a Japanese name in its own right meaning ‘lotus’.

Octavia - Again, I’ve never seen The 100 so I don’t know anything about the character! I don’t think it’s a massive pop culture association so I don’t think it’s too much of an issue. I think of [name_f]Octavia[/name_f] [name_u]Spencer[/name_u].

Enoch - The only association I have with the name is [name_m]Alfred[/name_m] [name_m]Enoch[/name_m]. I think this one would be fine.

Draco - The connection isn’t super dark but it is a lot more well known than some of these other names. Also as a child, they would likely see [name_m]Draco[/name_m] as a villain.

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