Naming in older child adoption

This is really, really long”always is when I start to think about what to name an actual child unless I”m sure.

My husband and I have decided to pursue adopting a 4-year-old boy from Eastern Europe. He will be joining younger siblings [name]Hannah[/name] [name]Jane[/name] and [name]Peter[/name] [name]Sidney[/name] III (neither of whom are adopted). I can”t work out for sure what we will be calling him and naming him until we meet him, as I likely won”t find out his name before then. But I wanted to work on hammering out a philosophy of naming an older adopted child before we come to that point. DH and I haven”t discussed this yet, but I”m pretty sure he”d appreciate me thinking things out and getting feedback ahead of time. I know some people might come up with different philosophies even on the parts I feel strongly about, and I am not criticizing how anyone else chooses to name their adopted child(ren); so please don”t think that because my feelings are in one direction, I am attacking those who do the opposite (but you certainly can share if your philosophy is different.

Here are the parts I am sure of:
I do not want to take away any of the names he already has. At four he knows himself by his name. His first name, middle name (if he has one), and last name are part of his identity and heritage and the only things belonging to him he will keep, so I want him to be able to keep them. Depending on his preference, the names, and what we plan to call him, the order of these might vary.

I want him to have a name we have given him. It doesn”t have to be his first name, but I feel that it”s important for us as his parents to give him a name when he joins our family. [name]Even[/name] if we love the name he already has, I would want to do this. That does mean he will have a minimum of four names. While my preference would be for first-middle-last, my reasons for wanting him to have a name from us and keep his names outweigh that preference. I already have a III, so ease of paperwork is not a factor in my decision.

I want his new full name to flow as well as possible. This trumps keeping his original name in a certain order, and depending on the circumstances, it may trump whether what we generally will call him is a form of his first name. We considered calling our lttlest [name]Sidney[/name], so I”m not really attached to the first-name-first thing (but it is a preference). I expect that I would often use at least some of his middle names in combination with his first name, as [name]Hannah[/name] is [name]Hannah[/name] [name]Jane[/name] 10-25% of the time and [name]Peter[/name] is [name]Pete[/name] [name]Sid[/name] or sometimes [name]Peter[/name] [name]Sidney[/name] around 50% of the time (when I don”t just call him Boy). So in our family, a middle name isn”t just filler or incidental, it”s a part of the name we use. Since he will have a multicultural name”after all, he”ll be multicultural”I”m okay with the fact that his name might seem to clash a little on that front. His ability to retain his name and connection with his culture is not set in stone.

What I”m not completely sure of:
What do you think of family names for an adopted child from the adoptive family? My daughter”s middle name is a 4th-generation middle name in my direct line and was a first name before that. [name]Peter[/name]”s name”s family connection is pretty obvious (and his grandfather was named for an uncle in part). Family names are important to me, and I like family names. But I also read somewhere that some people don”t like to give family names to adopted children, because it feels like trying to force a connection, especially when the family member never met the adopted child. The argument for a family name helping to reinforce he is part of our family and matching that aspect of his sister and brother”s names, though, seems stronger to me. I am hoping his given name will already be a form of one of my family names, and kind of let me off the hook here. Then the name we give him could be a Biblical name we love and he would still have a family name that was a neat coincidence. Thoughts on family names in adoption? Family names I might consider are [name]George[/name], [name]Alfred[/name], [name]John[/name], [name]Ernest[/name], [name]Benjamin[/name], [name]Mark[/name], [name]Vincent[/name], [name]James[/name], [name]Jesse[/name], or maybe [name]Gary[/name].

Name translation: I feel fairly comfortable using an ethnic name for a child of that ethnicity, so I don”t think I would have a problem with it if my son”s name were Yevheniy or Alyksandr (just for examples from his culture). However, I wonder if our son would be better served by translating his name to make it easier for others to spell and pronounce. Or, he could use a nickname form which is easier to say and spell almost exclusively (like [name]Gene[/name] or [name]Sasha[/name] or [name]Lex[/name]). Also, I don”t know if I want him to lose the original spelling”if he were Yevheniy but we gave him the legal name of [name]Eugene[/name], has he lost the right to ever use Yevheniy? It definitely would be weird to have both Yevheniy and [name]Eugene[/name] as parts of his name. One way to solve this might be keeping the original spelling but putting his American name first legally”so he might be [name]Mark[/name] Yevheniy, but not go by [name]Mark[/name]. Then he could go by [name]Eugene[/name], [name]Gene[/name], or Yevheniy without necessarily having to constantly spell a name that would be foreign to most of the people around him. I also would hate to have it assumed that a very legitimate ethnic name (like Alyksandr) was a tryndeigh made-up spelling, but that just might be a matter of me needing to swallow my namegeek pride. If the name were simple and somewhat familiar, like [name]Anton[/name] or [name]Yuri[/name], I don”t think there”d be an issue just going with it”I wouldn”t feel like it would have to be [name]Anthony[/name] or [name]George[/name]. Although I think that he should have some input too, I don”t know if a four year old is old enough to think all that through”let alone to understand the explanation through a language barrier.

I don”t know whether we would call him by his original given name or the new one we give him. What his preference is would definitely be an issue here”I wouldn”t start calling him exclusively by his new name unless he wanted that. I have heard of some adopted children being excited about a new name, so it is a possibility. Also, if what we start calling him by is very ethnic-sounding, he might decide to go by a middle name which is more American-sounding later on anyway. There also might be advantages to his first name being one that is easily recognized, pronounced, and spelled by Americans even if it is not what he always or usually goes by”it could be helpful in applying for jobs, just getting through forms, etc. If his legal first name were [name]James[/name], he could just go with that when working with bureaucracy or on a job application and explain that he went by Bohuslav to friends or coworkers later.

I would also consider the possibility of making the name he was listed online by part of his legal name. People have been praying for him by this name for many years. It is not my style at all, but I am growing to like it”I can make a spiritual meaning for it. [name]Hannah[/name] is calling him by this name, though I”ve explained it isn”t his real name and we don”t know what it is. I kind of like the idea of adding it in, but 5 names is a lot, and I”m not sure if it would be weird to make a pseudonym part of his real name. On the other hand, it feels like in a way it is his name too, so why not make it official? I went to high school with a girl who had 5 names, and each of her sons now has 5 as well, so I assume she”s not completely traumatized by it.

Thanks for any help, advice, thoughts!

please take this only as my desire to help. I think your thoughts on the name are wonderful and an example of the kind, generous, and committed parents that you are and will be to this little boy. and I think you are spot on in everything you say. my only comment on your family names – and I think you’re right to continue that tradition with this child – is to choose one that’s more translatable, such as [name]George[/name] as opposed to [name]Gary[/name].

That being said, I would suggest you start reading up on attachment disorders. I am quite familiar with this subject, because, due to an abduction, my own son has suffered from an attachment disorder. A four year old (especially from [name]Russia[/name]) is more likely to have an attachment disorder than not. Dr [name]Martha[/name] [name]Welch[/name] from [name]Columbia[/name] University, [name]Foster[/name] Cline, and our own psychoanalyst, Dr [name]Patricia[/name] [name]Buckley[/name], (who’s now retired), have writings on the subject that you should read long before you go to pick this child up. I am not a proponent of radical therapies. With my own son, it took a theraputic foster home (run by Dr [name]Buckley[/name]) and lots of love and hard work. He is an actor and quite accomplished at 19 – but he still is fragile and has many struggles with depression.

I am not against adoption. But I am hoping you will not have the trouble that some of my friends have had with older adoptions. It’s worth it, and children need a loving family home – but they also need parents who are prepared and ready to help them battle the demons they faced as babies and toddlers.

I hope that you won’t take this badly, but just coming from a concerned parent whose walked the path you may walk.

First of all, congratulations! I completely agree with your decision to keep his name as it is. He’ll be going through enough change, and keeping his name (and therefore identity) will make it that much easier. I also like the idea of adding a name from your family somewhere in the middle. He’ll be a part of your family just as much as your other children, who have family names, so I think it would be great for his name to reflect that.
The issue of complex foreign names is a bit more difficult. I think that if it sounds like something English (i.e., something like Alyksandr) change the spelling to something more English-y for the sake of convenience (like [name]Alexander[/name].) I’d assume that at 4, he probably can’t read yet, and Russian uses the Cyrillic alphabet anyway, so I’d think of it as a translation rather than totally changing the spelling. If it’s something that doesn’t sound anything like its English counterpart (like Yevheniy) I wouldn’t change it to [name]Eugene[/name]. One major reason to keep his name is to prevent confusion on his part, and at this point sound is so important and it’s not like he’ll know or care if they’re from the same etymology. I also really like the idea of giving him his American name first if his given name is very (confusingly) Russian and still calling him by his original name. He’ll have the option later on in life to use the American name, but he won’t have to. It’s not uncommon for people to go by their middles, so I think it’ll be understood.
Good luck and again, congratulations!

[name]Just[/name] my take: What his name actually turns out to be will make a huge difference in whether you identify with it and will keep it. I know of people who’ve kept them, who’ve anglicized the spelling, who’ve moved them to the middle, who’ve made the nickname the official name, who’ve totally changed them, and every other conceivable combination. Your child will not be traumatized by any of these choices, but might have some issues later on by how you treat him and what he reads into your name choice.

For example, if he ends up feeling like an outsider, like he doesn’t fit in with your family, he might grow to hate that you “forced” a family name on him. Or he might grow to hate that the other children have family names and he was “left out” and treated differently by not getting one! In short, children can find fault with anything you do or don’t do. So do what you feel is right and focus more on the actual parenting. If he feels loved, that’s how he’ll view his name as well as long as he isn’t facing frequent societal comments to persuade him differently.

And to add another dynamic to the name, he might have no connection to his legal name. It might have been given to him by an orphanage worker who put no thought into it and he might be called by a nickname to distinguish him from the other 20 kids the same worker named Jurij or Nikolos. If he has a middle name, and it is quite possible he will not, he might not even know it. And while a lot of adoptive parents are big into maintaining the child’s heritage (a good thing, in my opinion), I’ve yet to meet an adopted child of any age who shared the same degree of concern. I have met a few who had that degree of concern when the parents rejected the original culture completely (referring again to above paragraph with children finding fault), but not the other way around. The much older children I’ve met who were adopted (8-14) all were very clear that they wanted American names and American lives. They even refused to respond to their old names or original languages.

It changes with every child and every family. I think you’ll know in your heart what is right for yours.

Thank you for your concern. He’s actually in the Ukraine, and from my reading he seems to be in a fairly good place with a high staff to child ratio. Other kids from his orphanage have bonded well with their new families (as far as I can tell) and he has probably been in care since shortly after birth (I don’t have access to that information, but I suspect that to be the case). Thank you for your concern–we will definitely be getting some training on adopting older children before we bring him home, so I’m sure at very least they would cover when we might need to get professional help with an attachment issue.

And [name]Gary[/name] isn’t likely to be a name I’d use, anyway–probably my least favorite from that list. Hadn’t thought of making sure the new name translates, but that really is a great point.

Thanks all for your thoughts and ideas. Taking it all into consideration.

Definitely not going to make any firm decisions before meeting him, learning his name, and talking to him.

sorry for double post

I think this is more of a question that would be better answered by other people who have experienced older child adoption? We’re just shooting from the hip here, but others might have some really good insights that we don’t have.

I know one family who adopted a 4 year old from [name]China[/name], and chose to keep her Chinese name rather than adapt it (and yes, they had three other American named children). I know another family who foster to adopted a little girl - started fostering when she was 18 months and weren’t able to adopt until she was 3 1/2, and when they did adopt her, they changed her name to something entirely different, but were able to sell her on it pretty well (but they had had her since she was 18 months . . .).

Anyhow, good luck and congrats on adopting! I deeply admire people who adopt, and think it’s a very beautiful thing.