That is very true. You’re definitely right about the heavy use of the name.
With this added information, I’d suggest not using [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] for your daughter. If you can’t use [name_f]Kyla[/name_f] because it’s already in use, I don’t see [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] or [name_f]Kylie[/name_f] being viable either. Unless you name her [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] and only use the nickname [name_m]Ky[/name_m] among your family.
I HAVE BEEN WAITNG FOR THIS THREAD [name_u]FOREVER[/name_u].
I know someone (a girl!!!) named [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] and she LOVES her name. Of course, the innername nerd in me thought that was interesting from the get go. It was sort of the same thing… The dad loved [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] and hated [name_f]Kylie[/name_f]. I’ve asked her if people ever give a negative reaction and she said never. People just shrug it off and get used to calling her that. A name doesn’t define a person; a person defines a name. If you love it that much, use it. [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] on a girl isn’t the end of the world, and it’s really not too out there. At all. It has always bugged me that so many people on NB are SO against boys’ names on girls. It’s really not a big deal. At all. [name_u]Kyle[/name_u]
[name_f]Christine[/name_f] is really pretty, but actually all of your choices sound great.
I don’t think it will be a hardship as it’s a huge trend to give girls, boys names. That being said, it is one of my biggest pet peeves. It induced eye rolls. Hardly any girls in my daughters dance class have feminine names. We have had 2 [name_u]Payton[/name_u]'s, 3 [name_u]Reagan[/name_u]'s, [name_u]Tatum[/name_u], etc. I don’t get it. It just seems like you wished for a boy, or you are trying really hard to be cool and unique. Save [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] for a future boy and keep looking for an actual girl’s name.
I know the [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] [name_m]Richards[/name_m] from the real housewifes of [name_f]Beverly[/name_f] Hills…
I like it on her…
I think it is fine for a girl or boy. It doesn’t seem masculine or feminine to me. The meaning is even gender neutral. It’s a Scottish surname so if it can be used as a first name for a boy, it can be used as a first name for a girl.
One of my close friends, who is a girl, has a typically masculine unisex name ([name_u]Brady[/name_u]). She says that she hates how people assume she is a boy and the reaction people give when they call roll and expect to see a boy but get her. She hates the surprised look. She wears her name well, but she doesn’t like her name.
I have a girls name that lends itself to a masculine nn ([name_f]Leni[/name_f]) and I hate being called [name_f]Leni[/name_f] since it sounds masculine. I could not imagine how much I’d hate to have a typically masculine name.
I can see with the whole job thing, men are typically hired over the same qualified women, but I think giving a masculine name is kind of like, “There is something wrong with being a woman, I have to have a masculine name to get a job.” which is not necessarily true and not the message I’d want to send to a daughter.
And since your husband loves [name_u]Kyle[/name_u], I’d save it for a boy (assuming you are having more children). There are so many great feminine names that don’t sound too frilly that your husband might like, for example: [name_f]Margo[/name_f], [name_u]Clare[/name_u], [name_f]Cleo[/name_f]. I’d keep searching.
I know several male Kyles so the name is all firmly masculine.
I agree with previous posters on the idea that its automatically implying the anything feminine is bad. And if you have a family member who’s name has all of those sounds its going to get confusing (this is coming from a girl with three cousins less than a year apart: [name_u]Brayden[/name_u], [name_m]Raiden[/name_m] and [name_u]Jayden[/name_u]).
Also whether it was true or not I’d feel as though my parents wanted a boy and got “stuck” with me as a girl. My male friend Kellsye [name_f]Anne[/name_f] feels that way despite having two sisters. That’s not an idea I would want my kid to have. And what if you have another kid, a boy? You can’t use [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] because that’s your daughter’s name.
I would save [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] and find a girl’s name for your daughter. It just makes the most sense I this situation.
I have to say no, just because my brothers name is [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] and I find it really masculine, although I really like [name_u]Hayden[/name_u] on a girl (as a mn)so that might be hypocritical. I don’t think [name_f]Kylie[/name_f] is tied to [name_f]Kylie[/name_f] Jenner too much, i’ve known three [name_f]Kylie[/name_f]'s and no one has ever said anything about that. My mother has gotten [name_f]Kylie[/name_f] Minogue though, but that’s because her sisters name is also [name_u]Dani[/name_u] and she’s around the same age as [name_f]Kylie[/name_f] Minogue. I also think if you do have a son in the future, you’ll regret using your favourite boys name on your daughter, whereas I hate the name [name_u]Hayden[/name_u] on a boy. I think [name_f]Kylie[/name_f]/[name_f]Kyla[/name_f] as the official name, then you could just call her [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] all the time. That way if she turns out not to be a tomboy, she won’t hate her name.
Also, I have to agree with everyone else. To say “oh well, we live in a society run by men, you’ll just have to deal with it” isn’t the message i’d want to give my daughter and everyone else, not that you’re doing that by naming your daughter Kyle, but like @taylorblueskye said, but giving the wrong reason behind it.
Unless your daughter looks really really masculine they might find out she is a woman. This argument is just not a good one. I’m not really one to look for a Kardeshian-like name either so… I don’t even think [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] is that bad, but the reasons are. It’s like “okay, this is a patriarchal society so try to hide that you’re a woman, pretend to be someone you’re not, being a woman is not enough”. I’m all for unisex names, but this reason is horrible and will teach your little girl the wrong things.
My mother actually suggested that we use a frilly middle name as well, however I personally feel like it is too sharp of a contrast it wouldn’t flow right. To me at least, it would be kind of jarring to look at [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] [name_f]Isabella[/name_f] on paper. It is almost comparable to when you see clashing colors. Although I must say that I do like [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f] as a middle name.
As I told another poster, unfortunately [name_f]Kyla[/name_f] isn’t really a viable option because we have one in the family already.
I have a unisex name that leans towards being used more for boys than girls. It has never been a ‘major’ problem, but it has been an issue (and sometimes still can be) that it is assumed that I am male because of my name. I do not like my name for this reason, and I would imagine that this would be a bigger problem for me if my name was in fact a traditional boys name.
I also agree with what some others have previously posted, that it isn’t the best sentiment to use “we live in a patriarchal society” to justify the trend of giving boys names for girls.
You didn’t mention if this was your first child or not, or if there is the possibility of having more children, but I would suggest saving [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] for a boy. Or since you actually like the name [name_f]Kylie[/name_f], and [name_f]Kylie[/name_f] is a girl’s name, then I just naming your baby [name_f]Kylie[/name_f] and having [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] as the nickname. But you expressed calling her [name_f]Kylie[/name_f] anyway, so I feel you should just name her [name_f]Kylie[/name_f] if that is what you want to call her on a day to day basis.
[name_f]Kaylee[/name_f] could be an alternative too. I don’t think I saw that suggested yet.
I totally understand where a lot of you all are coming from, however I wouldn’t name my daughter a name like [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] solely for her to be able to tuck away her womanhood and femininity. I just was listing that a potential bonus of her having a traditionally male name could combat discrimination in finding jobs.
At the same time, I do see the potential psychological harm that it could do to suggest in anyway that in order to be tough you need to be a man. That would just be something as a mother I’d have to teach her myself.
Not a fan honestly. I’d save [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] for a son and give your daughter a different name. Obviously it’s your choice but just my two cents.
I understand why a lot of people think that it sends the wrong message to name your daughter a traditionally male name. The name really grows on me everyday and [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] [name_f]Christine[/name_f] is the one I personally like the most. It does make me feel a little better that some of you all actually know some females named [name_u]Kyle[/name_u]. That means my husband and I aren’t completely nuts.
You don’t seem to be dissuaded from using [name_u]Kyle[/name_u], and you also seem to have a full grasp on all the different stances on the subject. That is fine, it doesn’t seem to be an issue for you and that’s all that matters. I don’t think you will find complete support on the issue, but you probably wouldn’t find complete support against it. So if it is the name you and your husband love, use it. Since it is a trend, your daughter will likely not be alone in being a girl with a ‘boy’ name.
Congratulations on your baby!
Honestly, it would likely be assumed you and your husband had a problem with having a daughter, and refused to detach from your favourite boys name, so you used it on a girl. Not to mention your reasoning comes off as a bit anti-feminine - what’s wrong with a strong, female name? [name_m]Don[/name_m]'t imagine that a female [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f] receives a lot of flack for being a girl, but then again, there were some users who continuously hated on any name ending in the ‘ee’ sound ([name_f]Emily[/name_f], [name_u]Ashley[/name_u], [name_u]Hadley[/name_u], [name_u]Haley[/name_u], [name_f]Lucy[/name_f], etc), for being too ‘weak’ and ‘feminine’. What on earth is so horrendous about being feminine? I’m honestly sick of the constant choosing of masculine (yes, originally male names, like [name_u]James[/name_u], [name_u]Kyle[/name_u], [name_u]Elliot[/name_u], etc) for girls, because the parents didn’t want a ‘weak’ name for their daughter, and of people immediately disregarding [name_u]Charlie[/name_u], [name_u]Jamie[/name_u], [name_u]Alfie[/name_u], [name_u]Darcy[/name_u], etc for boys, because they are ‘too feminine’. Why is it that, with all the strides we’ve made in women’s rights, that we’re still taught that feminine names are weak and not as strong as male names.
Feminism isn’t taking a male name and using it for your daughter because it’s ‘strong’ - it’s actually anti-feminism or counter-active feminism, because it’s teaching us that, once again, men are stronger than women, which, obviously, is not true, we’re equal. Isn’t equality what feminism is about? There are strong male names, of course, but there are also strong female names, such as [name_f]Matilda[/name_f], [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f], [name_f]Margaret[/name_f], [name_f]Mary[/name_f], [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], [name_f]Emily[/name_f], [name_f]Florence[/name_f], [name_f]Edith[/name_f], [name_f]Harriet[/name_f], [name_u]Evelyn[/name_u], [name_f]Anne[/name_f], the list goes on for ages.
Sorry for ranting, but you’re probably the 7th person I’ve seen making a post like this in the past 6 months, and I needed to get that out in the open.
[name_u]Kyle[/name_u] is not a good idea for your daughter with your reasoning behind it, I’m sorry. It really sends the wrong message. If it were for personal, deep family meaning, my outlook would be entirely different, but this whole job discrimination idea grates on me.
Thank you very much for your congrats! To be honest, I’m having almost too much fun trying to figure out what we’re going to name her. I’m not necessarily not looking for support per se, rather than perspective. I just thought that this site was neat in that I could get some perspective from people who have no stake in it all. I know it is going to be impossible to get these kinds of unbiased opinions from family and friends.
If I do end up having a daughter in the future, I’ll probably hate all her friends names. It makes me so sad.
…Anyways…
I know others bring up a frilly middle name, but nowadays I don’t think that really says anything about the sex of the individual carrying the name. I’ve seen girls with masculine names that have feminine middles, girls with feminine first with masculine middles, and boys with masculine names that have feminine middles. That’s assuming anyone even knows the middle.
I would consider more than just getting a job. [name_m]How[/name_m] would you feel if your daughter is believed to be a boy before the first encounter? Or what if for college they accidentally had her with a male roommate? If she were to get married to a guy, for example, “[name_u]Kyle[/name_u], do you take [name_u]James[/name_u] to be your lawfully wedded husband?”. If none of these bother you, that’s great and you should consider it. If it makes you feel uncomfortable you should talk about it with your husband.
I know others have mentioned it, but are you considering trying for more kids? If so, what would you name your next daughter? [name_u]Kyle[/name_u] and [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] might sound a little funny, but if you don’t mind the confusion go for it. What about if you have a son, what would you name him?
In the end, it’s your decision. If you’ve really thought about it and you love the name, you should do it.