Nell? Origin? 🤔

What would you say the origin of [name_f]Nell[/name_f] was? Online there seems to be a number of origins listed! Does this name feel nicknamey or not very substantial? [name_f]Do[/name_f] you like it?

If someone told you they were honouring a [name_f]Helen[/name_f] with [name_f]Nell[/name_f] would it make sense?

Would make perfect sense to me! I love the name [name_f]Nell[/name_f]. Not sure about the origins but I think it was just a nickname, but now it’s an elegant stand alone name by itself

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I’ve always considered it a nickname for [name_f]Helen[/name_f], [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f], and [name_f]Penelope[/name_f] + variants of those names. I would assume it originated from [name_f]Helen[/name_f] first, but I honestly don’t know.

I think it works as a full name! I like it, and to me it makes perfect sense to honor a [name_f]Helen[/name_f] with [name_f]Nell[/name_f]!

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According to Nameberry it originated as a diminutive of [name_f]Helen[/name_f] et. al., which is also where it got its lovely meaning! So I think it makes perfect sense as an honor name for a [name_f]Helen[/name_f]. I adore [name_f]Nell[/name_f] and I think it stands beautifully on its own!

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First of all I loooove [name_f]Nell[/name_f]. It is originally a nickname for [name_f]Helen[/name_f] and all the variants ([name_f]Helena[/name_f], [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f], etc) so it definitely works!

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It’s an [name_f]English[/name_f] nickname from [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f] (and [name_f]Helen[/name_f]), which is usually said to have come about due to the affectionate “Mine [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f]” > “Mine [name_f]El[/name_f]” > “[name_f]My[/name_f] [name_f]Nell[/name_f]” (see also [name_m]Edward[/name_m] > [name_m]Ned[/name_m], etc.) but [name_f]Elea[/name_f] has a great write-up here :point_down:

[name_u]Love[/name_u] this name! It works as an honour for [name_f]Helen[/name_f], I think, although if the person being honoured is still living it might be worth checking whether they see it that way!

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I was always told it was a nickname for [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f] (and I know two Eleanors who go by [name_f]Nell[/name_f]), but upon researching, [name_f]Helen[/name_f] and [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f] have the same name meaning. I think [name_f]Nell[/name_f] is a lovely name by itself, and it would make sense to me that you’re honoring [name_f]Helen[/name_f].

Thanks [name_f]Katinka[/name_f] I am about to read now! Well she is most definitely not living :rofl:. She was my [name_u]French[/name_u] great, grandmother who served in the war her name was Hélene. [name_f]My[/name_f] great, great grandmother was [name_f]Therese[/name_f] [name_f]Elise[/name_f], also french and who’s names I like too. They were both really interesting women with interesting backgrounds. I obviously never knew her but I’ve always liked the name [name_f]Nell[/name_f] and I think it’s sweet that there was a Helêne in my family tree. [name_f]My[/name_f] partner is also Dàniel. And whilst [name_f]Nell[/name_f] isn’t the most intuitive nickname from [name_m]Daniel[/name_m], I think it could be in an offbeat way.
Sorry for the essay :eyes::blush:

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If they pointed out that they were honoring [name_f]Helen[/name_f], I would see it. :slight_smile:

Oh dear, sorry! I only mentioned that because I have known people to get offended by being “honoured” with a name other than their given name. Almost like the parents are saying “Hey, we love you, but we don’t like your name. Nope, not even for a middle. So we’ve named her after your birth flower!” or whatever. But many other people are fine with it!

But it sounds like Hélène will not be doing that, so go for it! [name_f]Nell[/name_f] is an awesome name (we strongly considered it last time and occasionally I wish we’d used it :sob:) and the [name_m]Daniel[/name_m] link is a sweet personal thing that doesn’t have to make etymological sense as long as it feels like a nod to you.

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As I know it’s a diminutive of [name_f]Helen[/name_f] or [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f], and totally works to honour a [name_f]Helen[/name_f] imo :slight_smile:

Fun fact: [name_f]Helena[/name_f] Bonham [name_u]Carter[/name_u]’s daughter is named [name_f]Nell[/name_f], after her great grandmother [name_f]Helene[/name_f], grandmother [name_f]Elena[/name_f], and [name_f]Helena[/name_f] Bonham [name_u]Carter[/name_u] :wink:

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Noooo don’t worry it made me laugh…not offended at all haha.

Gorgeous name! I think it works perfectly fine on it’s own and it makes perfect sense as a nickname for [name_f]Helen[/name_f].

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That’s really sweet. Thanks !

Honouring [name_f]Helen[/name_f] with [name_f]Nell[/name_f] makes perfect sense.

Nell has historically been a nn for many names. Famously [name_f]Nell[/name_f] [name_u]Gwyn[/name_u] whose real name was [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f]. You’ve also got [name_f]Petronella[/name_f] and its diminutives.

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Helen, [name_f]Ellen[/name_f], [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f] and [name_f]Penelope[/name_f] all could be the origins. A [name_f]Nell[/name_f] to honour [name_f]Helen[/name_f] totally makes sense to me. It’s a gorgeous name

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It has a history of use as a nn for [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f], [name_f]Ellen[/name_f], and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] and their variants, so I always assumed that’s how it came to be. So I certainly see it working as an honor name for [name_f]Helen[/name_f]! :slight_smile:

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I love [name_f]Nell[/name_f]! I don’t think it’s too insubstantial at all and I absolutely think it could work as an honour for a [name_f]Helen[/name_f], although as a nickname I like it best as a diminutive for [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f]. I’d happily use it on its own though.

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