What are your thoughts on my official top 5? Any middle name suggestions? I would like to use [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] or something similar, but I’m not sure where.
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] ___
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] ___
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] ___
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] ___
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] ___
They are all exquisitely beautiful choices! Any of them would work beautifully together for Sisters too! I’m afraid I find [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] a completely different feel to any of these Names and am struggling to place her! The best fit is:
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f].
I will come back with Middle Name suggestions! 
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] and [name_f]Sofia[/name_f] are really charming names to me.
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] / [name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Edith[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] / [name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Claire[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] / [name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Alice[/name_f]
They all are beautiful names. My favourite is [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] and I think it works the best with [name_f]Katherine[/name_f]. Alternatives to [name_f]Katherine[/name_f]:
[name_f]Kathleen[/name_f]
[name_f]Jennifer[/name_f]
[name_f]Rebecca[/name_f]
[name_f]Emma[/name_f]
[name_f]Victoria[/name_f]
[name_f]Jessica[/name_f]
[name_f]Anna[/name_f]
[name_f]Margaret[/name_f]
[name_f]Christina[/name_f]
[name_f]Rachel[/name_f]
[name_f]Stephanie[/name_f]
[name_f]Hannah[/name_f]
[name_f]Alexandra[/name_f]
[name_f]Grace[/name_f]
[name_f]Abigail[/name_f]
[name_f]Michelle[/name_f]
[name_u]Allison[/name_u]
[name_u]Kimberly[/name_u]
[name_f]Charlotte[/name_f]
[name_f]Melissa[/name_f]
[name_f]Madeline[/name_f]
[name_f]Eleanor[/name_f]
[name_f]Olivia[/name_f]
[name_f]Natalie[/name_f]
[name_f]Heather[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f]*___
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Carina[/name_f] (trying to give you [name_f]Katherine[/name_f])
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Sofia[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Soraya[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Hope[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] Rusalka
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f]*___
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Anneliese[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katrina[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_u]Eloise[/name_u]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Elodie[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Grace[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f]*___
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Belle[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Serena[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Katharina[/name_f] (pronounced Cut-ah-[name_f]REE[/name_f]-nah)
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Pearl[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_u]Wren[/name_u]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Grace[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]*___
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]May[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Anneliese[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] (it DOES sound good! :D)
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Emmeline[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Josephine[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Clementine[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f]*___
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Grace[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_u]Wren[/name_u]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Elena[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Annora[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Karina[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] Careña (Pronounced Cah-[name_u]REN[/name_u]-yah)
My favourites are [name_f]Sofia[/name_f], [name_f]Lucia[/name_f], [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] and [name_f]Elena[/name_f] (in this order). Which just leaves out [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f], a lovely name but not as beautifully exotic as the other 4.
Middle names:
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Katerina[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Lily[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Jasmine[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katerina[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katya[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Rose[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Lucy[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Katerina[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Francesca[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Kathleen[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Alice[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Briar[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Katerina[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Katya[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Belle[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Claire[/name_f]
[name_u]Love[/name_u]:
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabel[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f]
I love [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f], but I don’t think it goes well with [name_f]Katherine[/name_f]. [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f]? [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Caroline[/name_f]?
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] is a nice sounding name.
My favorite is [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f].
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Kate[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_u]Kay[/name_u]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Kate[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Kathleen[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Kaitlin[/name_f] / [name_f]Caitlin[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katie[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Kathleen[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Caterine[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] Katriel
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Kathleen[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] Katriel
I love all five! I slightly prefer [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f] and [name_f]Eleni[/name_f] to [name_f]Elena[/name_f], and [name_f]Rosamund[/name_f] to [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f], but regardless, all five names are so so gorgeous.
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] is my favorite (as you can see in my signature!), but they’re all beautiful. I’ve toyed with [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] before, and love it, so that would be my choice for the FN for [name_f]Katherine[/name_f], but it dose sound nice with all of them.
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Beatrix[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Felicity[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Corinne[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Caroline[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Mary[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Camille[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Celeste[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Jane[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Poppy[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Marguerite[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Gwendolen[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Madeleine[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_u]Eloise[/name_u]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Fleur[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Margot[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Susannah[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Olwen[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Edith[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Georgiana[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Magdalena[/name_f]/[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Maddalena[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Penelope[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Zoe[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Helene[/name_f]
Good luck!
I think they are all beautiful, romantic, and sophisticated. I could see them being five sisters.
Honestly, I think [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] compliments any of them. My least favorite would be [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] - I don’t think it sounds bad at all, but the other four sound wonderful, and [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] doesn’t sound quite as wonderful. Maybe it’s because I like a lot of girl names that start and end in vowels or the A sound, but I try to pair first names that don’t begin or end in A with middles that do, and vice versa, so I’d use [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] with [name_f]Elena[/name_f], [name_f]Sofia[/name_f], or [name_f]Lucia[/name_f] first. [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] would be next, then [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f].
I don’t have a lot of time to leave you an elaborate list of middle names for each name unfortunately =[
But I just wanted to say that I love all your names, they’re beautiful! And I think that putting either [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] or [name_f]Katarina[/name_f] with any of them would sound just gorgeous =]
EDIT: Must sleep! Lol
I’ll finish it tomorrow =]
I love them all, but here’s my ranking:
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Vivienne[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katharine[/name_f] (looks so pretty with the double ‘a’ here, in my opinion)
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Madeleine[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Juliette[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Eleanora[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Joy[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Cora[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Caroline[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Mirabelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Lillian[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Coralie[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Annabelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Madeleine[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Rosemary[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Vivienne[/name_f]
@anyagreenwich - I love your combos, thank you!
My favorites:
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Vivienne[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katharine[/name_f] - love this spelling, never thought of it before!
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Madeleine[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Juliette[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Lillian[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Madeleine[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Rosemary[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Vivienne[/name_f]
The list is finally done! I’ve been stupidly busy. Sorry for any combos/names that make you physical recoil.
I’m literally throwing you anything that I think flows together. I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to make combos for someone who has such cute taste in names. It doesn’t happen often and it’s so much fun!
It was harder for some reason to find combos for [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] and [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]. I think because they’re already so long and pretty, haha.
[name_f]Elena[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Anneliese[/name_f]*
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Danielle[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Gabriela[/name_f] (idk why I like this with only one L)
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Isabella[/name_f]*
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Jayde[/name_f] (different, but I like)*
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Joelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Juliette[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Katarina[/name_f]/[name_f]Katharine[/name_f]*
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Larissa[/name_f]*
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Lucia[/name_f]*
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Marissa[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Michelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Noelle[/name_f]*
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Paige[/name_f]*
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Scarlette[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Violette[/name_f]*
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Anastasia[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] Annelissa*
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Aurora[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Colette[/name_f]*
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katalina[/name_f]/[name_f]Katarina[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Lucia[/name_f]*
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Natalia[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Reina[/name_f] (love this!)*
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Scarlet[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Violet[/name_f]*
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Alessandra[/name_f]*
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Alexandria[/name_f]/[name_f]Alexandrina[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Anastasia[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Annabelle[/name_f]/[name_f]Annabella[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Anneliese[/name_f]*
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Arabella[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Brielle[/name_f]*
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Colette[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Gabrielle[/name_f]/[name_f]Gabriela[/name_f]*
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f]/[name_f]Isabella[/name_f]*
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Juliette[/name_f]*
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Katharine[/name_f]*
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Nicolette[/name_f]* (I usually prefer K instead of C, but I think it looks better here)
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Noelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Paige[/name_f]*
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Valentina[/name_f]*
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Violette[/name_f]*
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Amelia[/name_f]*
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Belle[/name_f]*
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] Brookelle
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Esmaria[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Gabriela[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Julissa[/name_f]* (can be Jul-LISS-a or Ju-[name_u]LEE[/name_u]-Sa)
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Makayla[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Mariah[/name_f]*
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Noelle[/name_f]*
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Paige[/name_f]*
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Scarlet[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Serena[/name_f]*
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Valentina[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Violet[/name_f]*
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Abrielle[/name_f]*
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Alessandra[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Annabelle[/name_f]*
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Anneliese[/name_f]/Annelissa*
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Belle[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Brielle[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Colette[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Danielle[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Emerie[/name_f]*
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Isabella[/name_f]/[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f]*
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Juliette[/name_f]*
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Katharine[/name_f]*
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Lorelei[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Michelle[/name_f]*
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Natalie[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Nikolette[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Noelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_u]Ruby[/name_u]
*[name_m]Just[/name_m] the ones that sound extra good to me =]
Oh my gosh, @mann - you are awesome! Thanks so much!
Faves:
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Gabriela[/name_f] - I like the one L as well
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Juliette[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Katarina[/name_f] -love this one
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Katharine[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Scarlette[/name_f] -
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Violette[/name_f] -
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Katarina[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Scarlet[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabel[/name_f] [name_f]Violet[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Gabrielle[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Juliette[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Katharine[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Amelia[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Serena[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Julissa[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Noelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Emerie[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Juliette[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Natalie[/name_f]
I used [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] as one of my twins names. Her middle name is [name_f]Grace[/name_f]. But SO and I played around with [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] [name_f]Marie[/name_f] and [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] [name_f]Amelie[/name_f].
@marlybishop - I like your combos but I’m only interested in using [name_f]Katherine[/name_f] in the middle spot
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] _____
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Faye[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_u]Ruby[/name_u]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Marie[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_u]Lee[/name_u]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_f]Mae[/name_f]/[name_f]May[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] [name_u]Riley[/name_u]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] ______
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_u]Rae[/name_u]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Ruth[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Hope[/name_f]
[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] [name_f]Sarah[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] _____
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Mae[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f] [name_f]Neveah[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] ______
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Jane[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Faith[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_f]Katherine[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_u]Tegan[/name_u]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] _____
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Marie[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_u]Lee[/name_u]/[name_u]Leigh[/name_u]
[name_f]Sofia[/name_f] [name_f]Jane[/name_f]