To Junior or not to Junior?

I was considering having my first son be a junior. I was talked out of it. My brother is a junior and he was saying how the mail is always mixed up. My father said it was confusing when people called on the phone, and having two of the same names in the house was ridiculous.
The problem is I [name]LOVE[/name] my husband’s name! If it wasn’t my husband’s name I would choose it for my son. His name is [name]Frank[/name].
Is it okay to name the second boy [name]Frank[/name]? I feel like if I was going to do it, it should have been done with the first. Would the first be jealous he doesn’t have his name?
I don’t know. What do you guys think?

So you’re going to have two people called [name]Frank[/name] in your household? I don’t think it matters which child is [name]Jr[/name]. My uncle that is the [name]Jr[/name] is the 3rd son. It worked out since my oldest uncle only had daughters, so there wouldn’t have been a III if my grands had made him [name]Jr[/name]

I don’t care for juniors, a child should have their own names. You could use Dad’s name as a mn or use a variant ([name]Francis[/name], [name]Frans[/name], [name]Frantz[/name]). I think the best option is to use a different mn from Dad. He won’t be a [name]Jr[/name] since the name isn’t exactly the same but he’ll be [name]Frank[/name]. And he’ll have his own mn if he doesn’t want to be [name]Frank[/name].

I really don’t like when people do Juniors. I just feel like every kid should have their own name and their own identity. When they are a junior they lose some of that individual-ness, imo.

I don’t think there’d be any reason for the first son to be jealous of the second son being a [name]Junior[/name] however. You could say the same thing about the second son being jealous that the first son is a [name]Junior[/name].

I say use [name]Frank[/name] as a middle name. :slight_smile:

I’m not a fan of juniors. A child should have their own name, and it is annoying and problematic to have sr/jrs.

If you like [name]Frank[/name], then find a variant of it, and use it as a nickname. Or, put it in the middle, and call him by it instead of his first.
Those are better options than to Juniorfy him, imo.

I agree with previous posters. When I see someone is a [name]Jr[/name]., I kind of think that the parents couldn’t decide on a name, or that they didn’t have time to come up with anything. I realize that’s not usually the case, but I can’t help seeing it as a lack of creativity. I think there are probably enough names out there that you could find something else that you really love.

Oh, and coincidentally, I was in a similar boat - my husband just happens to have the name I always thought I would name a son. I just decided “ok, that’s taken” and moved on to thinking about other names.

If you really are stuck on the name, would you be against calling him [name]Franky[/name]/[name]Frankie[/name]?

I don’t have a problem with juniors but I do think they need to go by a different nickname then their fathers to avoid confusion. I’ve known plenty of jrs. that went by [name]Junior[/name], J.R. and even one that went by [name]Deuce[/name] (since he was the second). If you used [name]Frank[/name] for your son, then I second rsoronen’s suggestion of calling him [name]Frankie[/name]. Also, do you like your husband’s full name or just his first name? If it’s just [name]Frank[/name] that you like and not your husband’s middle name, then I would suggest using a different first name and putting [name]Frank[/name] in the middle.

My brother is a junior. We never had a problem with mail, or confusing the two when calling out their names. Partially, because I have always called my dad, “dad”. As for phonecalls, the person calling will either say, “[name]May[/name] I speak to [name]Tim[/name] Sr.” or Mr. F-----. For my brother, they always ask for [name]Timmy[/name] or [name]Tim[/name]. Giving a nickname helps. Your son can be called [name]Frankie[/name] when he is younger.

Personally, having grown up in a family with a few juniors, I don’t see the problem if you love the name. You’re not doing it to make a [name]Junior[/name], it’s just coincidence. My brother and dad have the exact same name and almost same birthdate but it caused more laughs than problems. If you love the name then just use it. Give him a different middle so they’ll have different initials.

My dad is the “The Third”, and my brother was almost the “The Fourth” … nobody would let my mom call him [name]Jamie[/name] for short, so she said “Nope, not doing it.”

I don’t know if I would ever do a [name]Junior[/name] … it depends on the name. But it definitely needs to be done with the first song. I don’t even think that’s debatable!

I agree with the others. My dad was a second, and my brother is a third, and it’s just so complicated and unoriginal, imo! My dad and brother have had mixed up mail and phone calls for years, and I’m just glad it hasn’t been something worse (like my brother having to file for bankruptcy because of my dad’s finances got mixed up with my brother’s, etc.). I think it’s just too much of a hassle. If you want to use [name]Frank[/name], what about as a MN? If I remember from an earlier post, you were considering [name]Simon[/name] and [name]Oscar[/name], right? I think either [name]Simon[/name] [name]Frank[/name] or [name]Oscar[/name] [name]Frank[/name] would be great (although I get a strong hot dog reference for [name]Oscar[/name] [name]Frank[/name], haha, so maybe that’s not the best).

Good luck!

I really dont like juniors…give your kid his own name

Agree…

I have never understood the point of giving the child the exact same name as a parent. Not only does it seem confusing, I feel everyone deserves their own name. That being said, I think honoring someone with a name is great. Put [name]Frank[/name] in the middle or something. I’m not on-board with the [name]Jr[/name] trend.

I personally think that all kids should have their own names. But if you’re set on using your husband’s name I would at least give your son a nickname to distinguish between the two of them. Or you could even name your son [name]Frankie[/name] or something that is similar to the name [name]Frank[/name].

My husband is the second son and he was given his father’s first name (his older brother had already been given their father’s middle name). His mom had her heart set on a girl and didn’t even have a boy’s name picked out, so they just gave him his dad’s name. It isn’t weird and it was never confusing since they have different middle names/initials, and my husband has always gone by [name]Denny[/name], and his dad is [name]Dennis[/name].

I think using the baby’s father name in the middle name position is a nice compromise. I really don’t like the idea of juniors, it seems too old fashion to me…

If you really want to use [name]Frank[/name], use it. He doesn’t have to be a junior though. Since you just love the name [name]Frank[/name] but not necessarily wanting a junior, give him his own middle name. Then there’s no junior related issues.

I have no problem with juniors, but I do have a problem with two of the arguments presented against juniors.

  1. “[name]Every[/name] child should have their own name.” Somewhere out there, at some point in time, there is a person with the same name as your child. Unless, of course, you’ve made up a name that sounds like alien jargon.

  2. “[name]Every[/name] child should have their own identity.” The person creates the identity, not the name.

If you love [name]Frank[/name] for your son, then name him [name]Frank[/name] [name]Jr[/name]. I doubt that he will suffer an identity crisis or have a traumatic life full of confusion because he is named after his father.

Also this.

I’m sure everyone is speaking on a smaller scale. Most people wouldn’t give all of their children the same first and middle name. Why? Because they want each have their own name.

And I haven’t found anyone with my exact name. It’s not alien jargon, just uncommon first, middle, and last names