We've FINALLY agreed on a name......Family might freak out though....opinions?

As someone who fully intends to name a child [name_m]Fox[/name_m] when and if I have kids, I find it to be a feasible - even reasonable - choice. I have done much research on the history of its use, and though not reaching very far back in English, it is considered to be one of the oldest known given names in the Old Irish form Crimthann - and there were several High Kings by that name, in addition to the fact that it was the birth name of St. [name_m]Colm[/name_m] Cille. As a surname [name_m]Fox[/name_m] has been borne by many prominent people, and [name_u]Maj[/name_u]. [name_f]Gen[/name_f]. [name_m]Fox[/name_m] [name_u]Conner[/name_u], the mentor of [name_m]Dwight[/name_m] D. Eisenhower, gives it extra credential as a first. Recite that when someone tells you its insubstantial and immature! I think it’s handsome, streamlined, and a perfect fit amongst names such as [name_u]Max[/name_u] and [name_m]Felix[/name_m]. Now all you have to do is decide if it’s the perfect fit for you.

That’s great for your brother and his employees, truly, but most people/corporations don’t work that way. For every qualified [name_m]Fox[/name_m], there are dozens of qualified Marks, [name_m]Matthews[/name_m], Jennifers, Graces, Jacobs, Nancys etc. that will be picked over [name_m]Fox[/name_m], unfairly. The studies are out there. Polarizing names are difficult to live with; I have a friend named [name_f]Cinnamon[/name_f] and know a lot of what she’s gone through as a result of her name. On that note, I’m going to stop arguing semantics, I think we both understand that naming a human is a big responsibility and a lot to think about.

All good points. [name_u]Diversity[/name_u] and individuality are wonderful things, too. Name discrimination exists but shouldnt we rally against it, not play into it? I personally know someone who was interviewed because of their unique name, and they ended up getting the job.

I suppose I would rather be named a name my parents love rather than a name they picked because it’s more acceptable on a resume. If anyone discriminates against a name, who wants to work with them anyways?

What about these combinations… [name_m]Eli[/name_m] [name_m]Fox[/name_m] or [name_u]Theo[/name_u] [name_m]Fox[/name_m]?

[name_m]Just[/name_m] because you do feel that way, doesn’t mean OP’s son will too. It’s best to give him an option than to leave him stuck in a place he doesn’t want to be (metaphorically, I mean :slight_smile: ). Children are not defined by their parents, and most definitely do not have the same likes and dislikes. No matter how much my parents loved the name [name_m]Fox[/name_m], [name_f]Apple[/name_f], [name_f]Rainbow[/name_f], or [name_f]Cinnamon[/name_f], I wouldn’t want that to be my name.
I guess my answer to your last question would be anyone who enjoys being employed. Bias is 100% natural. We all do it unconsciously and a lot do it consciously. It’s just the reality of life. It would truly be great if it weren’t that way and I would join your rally against it, but again, it’s innate as we are not perfect beings.

Quotes from a Business Insider article:
“In a Marquette University study, the researchers found evidence to suggest that names that were viewed as the least unique were more likable. People with common names were more likely to be hired, and those with rare names were least likely to be hired. That means that the Jameses, [name_f]Marys[/name_f], Johns, and Patricias of the world are in luck.”

“A 2009 study at Shippensburg University suggested that there’s a strong relationship between the popularity of one’s first name and juvenile criminal behavior. Researchers found that, regardless of race, young people with unpopular names were more likely to engage in criminal activity. The findings obviously don’t show that the unusual names caused the behavior, but merely show a link between the two things. And the researchers have some theories about their findings. “Adolescents with unpopular names may be more prone to crime because they are treated differently by their peers, making it more difficult for them to form relationships,” they write in a statement from the journal’s publisher. “Juveniles with unpopular names may also act out because they … dislike their names.””

From The [name_m]New[/name_m] Yorker:
“In 1948, two professors at [name_m]Harvard[/name_m] University published a study of thirty-three hundred men who had recently graduated, looking at whether their names had any bearing on their academic performance. The men with unusual names, the study found, were more likely to have flunked out or to have exhibited symptoms of psychological neurosis than those with more common names. The Mikes were doing just fine, but the Berriens were having trouble. A rare name, the professors surmised, had a negative psychological effect on its bearer. Since then, researchers have continued to study the effects of names, and, in the decades after the 1948 study, these findings have been widely reproduced. Some recent research suggests that names can influence choice of profession, where we live, whom we marry, the grades we earn, the stocks we invest in, whether we’re accepted to a school or are hired for a particular job, and the quality of our work in a group setting. Our names can even determine whether we give money to disaster victims: if we share an initial with the name of a hurricane, according to one study, we are far more likely to donate to relief funds after it hits.”

Consciously and unconsciously, we are judged by our names (in both good and bad ways); that’s just a fact. That’s why it’s important to understand all sides of a name before giving it to our precious babies. I’m getting tired of arguing this point. [name_m]Feel[/name_m] free to look up more articles if you need further clarification, they’re out there. :slight_smile:

I have an unusual first and took a difficult-to-pronounce last name upon marriage. I am a female breadwinner with a professional career. My salary is in well above the average in the US. So based on my own lack of difficulty achieving career success “despite” my difficult name and my fondness for my own unusual name, we didn’t hesitate to choose an unusual word name for our son. We did use a classic family middle to give him options. Who knows, maybe he’ll want to be called [name_m]Bob[/name_m]. :wink:

Go for it. [name_m]Don[/name_m]'t name/ not name from a place of fear.

I’ve seen these studies, too; I know you’re speaking from empirical evidence not just opinion, and I fully appreciate that a [name_m]Fox[/name_m] may hate his name, maybe as much as my sister hated sharing her name with several other girls in her class.

Please don’t be tired of arguing your point; you’re being heard. I simply have to retort, in kind, so we can, as you said, understand all sides.

I understand. I’m just feel like this has become a debate vs. the discussion I’d hoped it would be. I honestly have no issue with names that deviate from the social norm (I have some on my list), I was just simply trying to present a point of view that I felt was important even if it isn’t wholly my reflective of my own. Definitely did not mean to offend anyone who has a child with a non-traditional name or one themselves. I think [name_m]Fox[/name_m] makes for a pretty sweet middle name/nickname but a more traditional option might be considered if the child’s preference changes later on as he becomes an adult. All in the best interest of the (not quite here yet) sweet baby [name_m]Fox[/name_m]! :slight_smile:

I get both sides of the debate over employability, etc. … but the most alarming studies are always the ones showing bias against names that sounds like “minority” or “foreign” names. I think that is a very serious and unfortunate consideration for some parents. There might also be subconscious bias against names that are difficult to pronounce or spell, just because we’re all self-conscious about getting it wrong and might avoid the situation altogether.

But those aren’t issues for [name_m]Fox[/name_m]! I think it’s more likely to become super popular than seem “weird” 20 years from now. But even if someone initially raises an eyebrow, it’s not unfamiliar in a way that people might subconsciously avoid.

I agree with everything that’s been said. I don’t think [name_m]Fox[/name_m] works very well as a name.

I love [name_m]Fox[/name_m]! It’s one of my top faves, boy or girl.

[name_m]Fox[/name_m] is one of the safer nature names for boys. It’s not super ‘out there’ like naming a kid [name_m]Bear[/name_m] or [name_m]Jaguar[/name_m]. [name_m]Fox[/name_m] is a familiar surname so it feels name-y enough to be a first name. I find it quite mature & distinguished; I’d put it in the same category as [name_u]Robin[/name_u] & [name_m]Drake[/name_m]. I can easily picture a serious businessman named [name_m]Fox[/name_m].

If [name_m]Fox[/name_m] doesn’t care for his fn, he can use his initial, like F. [name_m]Scott[/name_m] [name_m]Fitzgerald[/name_m] & J. [name_m]Edgar[/name_m] [name_m]Hoover[/name_m]

Although I would never use it myself, if you like the name [name_m]Fox[/name_m] go for it! I think it would work for both a small boy and a man.

I would [name_u]LOVE[/name_u] to meet a [name_m]Fox[/name_m]. In fact, my best friend is planning on naming a son (if she should be so lucky to have one), [name_m]Felix[/name_m] and nickname him [name_m]Fox[/name_m].

Regardless, I think [name_m]Fox[/name_m] works perfectly fine as a given first name. I really don’t see [name_m]Fox[/name_m] any different than a [name_u]Juniper[/name_u], [name_f]Calliope[/name_f], or [name_u]Wren[/name_u]. All uncommon, but not unheard of. [name_m]Will[/name_m] it raise a few eyebrows? Sure, but no one has the same taste in names (hallelujah)!

Actually, if my best friend and her husband hadn’t already agreed to name a child [name_m]Fox[/name_m], it would TOTALLY be on my list. Guess I’ll have to instead go with [name_m]Ford[/name_m], which I love just as much! :wink:

I love [name_m]Fox[/name_m]. A name doesn’t a person make. And I think that it sounds fantastic with you surname.

I actually know a boy called [name_m]Fox[/name_m] in real life! he’s the son of a family friend, he’s eighteen now and the name has totally aged with him – it’s not like it’s a ‘cutesy’ animal name, though it is sweet foxes are tough animals so i think it sounds good on a grownup too! his parents are relatively alternative but not totally out there at all. i think it’s a lovely name, especially since animal and nature names are really growing in popularity rn. and if you’ve both been struggling to agree on something i say go for it!!

I LIKE it! And if you like it, you should use it.

I think some of the people on here only post to be negative.

So go on and give your boy the name and believe me family will get over not liking his name. Mine did when I gave my son the name [name_m]Isaac[/name_m] Racy (a family name) and we called him Racy. Everyone hated it and my grandmother and one aunt said they hated it so much they were going to call him [name_u]Joey[/name_u]. I told them they could call him Racy or they could go without seeing him. That brought them into line sharpish, I can tell you.

So you just do and family be danged.

I think [name_m]Fox[/name_m] can absolutely work! I 100% disagree with the posters saying that it’s too cutesy for a grown man. I love it. [name_m]Fox[/name_m] sounds like he could be an athlete, a rockstar, or a scientist. Wearable, and versatile, [name_f]IMO[/name_f].

[name_m]Friend[/name_m] of mine named her little boy [name_m]Fox[/name_m] a few years back. I thought she was nuts, but it quickly grew on me and others. It is a precious name and will be quite fitting for him as an adult.
Go with your gut feelings and make sure it fits with the last name well. [name_m]Say[/name_m] the full name over and over. If it rolls off your tongue easy, it’s the right one. Plus it will get you prepped for yelling out his full name one day. Lol

[name_m]Fox[/name_m] is cool. I like it and I think it’s usable plus somewhat unique. Also, it connects with my surname, [name_m]Todd[/name_m], so I especially love it. [name_m]Just[/name_m] think, if we all chose ‘safe’ names, the world would be so much less interesting than it is…and at times, I wonder if it is all that interesting, because I am overloaded with all of the Jacks, Sofias, Kates, and Ethans.

I have to admit i had to think about this one, and I understand both sides of the argument for the name [name_m]Fox[/name_m] but ultimately i [name_u]Love[/name_u] it and if you both do then why not?:slight_smile: I worked in a play care for a while with lots of unique names that I was quite shocked by, I hardly heard any of the top 10 most popular names there, but once their personality shines through, their names become compliments to their unique personalities. Also your son will be among a lot of similar nature/word names, so I say use [name_m]Fox[/name_m] now before everyone else snaps it up!! Haha :smiley: Good [name_m]Luck[/name_m].