So I’ve had this name floating around in my head for a couple days now and I honestly can’t decide if I love it or if it’s just “eh…”
[name]Mollie[/name] [name]Cadence[/name]
I know some of you may prefer the original spelling “[name]Molly[/name]” but I have to say I think the “ie” ending changes the whole image of the name… in a good way : ). I’m more curious about how you think the name sounds.
We’re still TTC so you can love the name or hate it, it won’t make any difference to me, I won’t be offended… just looking for some input either way : ).
The flow is nice, and I don’t mind [name]Mollie[/name] spelled this way - I just don’t like it with [name]Cadence[/name]. [name]Mollie[/name] [name]Cordelia[/name], [name]Mollie[/name] [name]Kerensa[/name] or possibly even [name]Mollie[/name] [name]Ceridwen[/name] would strike my fancy. [name]Cadence[/name] is just so…trendy. [name]Mollie[/name] is a nice little name, vintage, sweet, but still practical - I would definitely keep her on your list.
Yeah, I must say that the spelling does bug me. :lol: I do know a [name]Mollie[/name], and it bugs her tremendously that no one can ever spell her name. I just think that “yooneek” spellings burden people for their whole lives, and they’re harder to take seriously. I also agree with fay that [name]Mollie[/name] is rather nickname-y for a first name. It’s most commonly used as a nickname for [name]Mary[/name], but you can basically just use it for any M name. I hope I didn’t offend you; this is just [name]IMO[/name].
I agree with flick that [name]Cadence[/name] doesn’t add that oomph to [name]Molly[/name]/[name]Mollie[/name]. [name]Mollie[/name] [name]Cadence[/name] as a whole is flimsy and weak to me. [name]Molly[/name]/[name]Mollie[/name] is a soft, simple name that needs something substantial and at least a little grand to balance it out. [name]Cadence[/name] just doesn’t have the solidity and history, in my opinion, that is needed. I really like flick’s suggestion of [name]Molly[/name]/[name]Mollie[/name] [name]Cordelia[/name]! That’s lovely. If you don’t like so-called “old lady names,” there are still plenty of more streamlined names that are sturdy and would sound lovely with [name]Molly[/name]/[name]Mollie[/name].
My sister’s name is [name]Mollie[/name]…and she loves it! She particularly loves the spelling, because it adds a little spunk to an otherwise pretty standard names.
I think [name]Mollie[/name] [name]Cadence[/name] makes a very pretty combination…but I’ve just never been a huge fan of [name]Cadence[/name]. Not for any particular reason - I just can’t seem to like it!
My sister’s full name is [name]Mollie[/name] [name]Olivia[/name]. I’ve always thought her name was pretty
So in your guys’ opinion is even “[name]Molly[/name]” just to nickname-y in general? I actually had no idea it was a nickname for “[name]Mary[/name]”… that doesn’t even really make sense to me to be honest lol!
No, I am not at all offended! Like I said I’m not married to the name or anything… if I was I wouldn’t have asked for everyone’s input. I truly appreciate it, I’ll take all the help I can get : ).
[name]Do[/name] you really think that the “ie” spelling is “yooneek” though? Whenever I read that I always think it’s referring to those OBNOXIOUSLY spelled wrong names.
Oh and this is what I was thinking in regards to “[name]Cadence[/name].” My husband is in the [name]Army[/name] and the songs they sing when they’re running or marching or whatever are called cadences! I thought that might be a cool subtle way to honor what he’s doing : ). Still too flimsy and/or trendy?? Cheesy lol? Let me know what you think!!
Personally, yes, I do think that [name]Molly[/name] is too nickname-y. I think it’s better to give a more solid first name with a nickname (like [name]Margaret[/name] nn [name]Maisie[/name], for example), even if it is more formal, than just a nickname on the birth certificate. A full first name gives a much better impression and opens more doors. But if you really, really love a nickname alone, then just go for it. Yes, [name]Molly[/name] is the traditional nickname for [name]Mary[/name] (just like [name]Chuck[/name] for [name]Charles[/name], [name]Jack[/name] for [name]John[/name], and all those other ones that don’t really make sense :lol: ).
As for the spelling, [name]Mollie[/name] isn’t obnoxious per say…but I think it’s still pretty annoying ([name]IMO[/name]). Especially to correct every person who spells it wrong – it would just be tiring for your daughter. It’s unnecessary, you know? I’m not sure if the whole “cutesy” image with the -ie helps either.
If [name]Cadence[/name] has personal meaning to you and your husband, then go ahead and use it. I think if a name has personal meaning, it overrules most other rules. So in the end, your judgment call about [name]Cadence[/name]. However, I do still think it is cheesy. :lol:
Personally, I don’t consider exchanging the y for and ie is “yooneek”. I think this comes from growing up with my mom telling me to spell my name [name]Cassy[/name] and now I always spell it [name]Cassie[/name] - I like the look of the ie better (because I really hate Y’s and if I can get rid of them, I will, lol). It;s still pronounced the same and it’s a spelling swap thats been made for centuries.
My best friends name is actually [name]Molly[/name] (though i like the “ie” ending also!) and i love it. It doesnt seem nicknamey to me especially not for [name]Mary[/name] because tht is her mom’s name LOL! [name]Mollie[/name] [name]Cadence[/name] I think its pretty , I dont love it but i don’t see anything wrong with it! (and also by the way my friend loves her name because she thinks its spunky and cute!) [name]Hope[/name] it helps!
So basically the general concensus here is “eh…” lol! Which is fine, that’s exactly what I wanted to know!
I have to admit I still like it though… something about it is sticking with me. [name]Molly[/name] is at #92 right now so even though it’s technically a nickname… I think it’s been proven that it can stand on it’s own just fine. But I do see that it may not be a name that “grows up” well… something to think about.
Girl’s names are just so hard for me so I’d love to hear any other suggestions you may have!! I think of “[name]Molly[/name]” as a name that is recognizable without being overused… which I have posted before is exactly the type of name my husband and I are looking for but I didn’t get much feedback. Which was totally my fault, I don’t think I made it very clear as to what I was looking for. Maybe now that you see that I consider “[name]Molly[/name]” as meeting that criteria I’ll get a few more suggestions.
Another thought… does “recognizable without being overused” kind of trap us into names that are “dated”??
Ugh… clearly I need some help lol!
All suggestions and opinions are welcomed!!!
Hmmm…interesting, about “recognizable names without being overused” being “dated” names. I’m sure they’re out there! “Dated” now has such a wide definition on Nameberry. :lol:
Maybe you can choose a nickname like [name]Molly[/name] that you like and then work backwards?
Some nicknames that are kind of cutesy like [name]Molly[/name]/[name]Mollie[/name]:
[name]Abby[/name]
[name]Addie[/name]
[name]Allie[/name]
[name]Annie[/name]
[name]Bea[/name]
[name]Carrie[/name]
[name]Cassie[/name]
[name]Cori[/name]
[name]Edie[/name]
[name]Ellie[/name]
[name]Emmie[/name]
[name]Hattie[/name]
[name]Josie[/name]
[name]Katie[/name]
[name]Laurie[/name]
[name]Lettie[/name]
[name]Lissie[/name]
[name]Lizzie[/name]
[name]Lottie[/name]
[name]Maddie[/name]
[name]Mamie[/name]
[name]Mattie[/name]
[name]Millie[/name]
[name]Nellie[/name]
[name]Pippa[/name]
[name]Polly[/name]
[name]Rosie[/name]
[name]Sadie[/name]
[name]Susie[/name]
[name]Tillie[/name]
[name]Vivi[/name]
I hope that helps!!! I hope I didn’t totally miss the mark!
To me, [name]Molly[/name]/[name]Mollie[/name] stands fairly well on its own rather than as a nickname. I love “standard” names for the options they provide, and because so many people assume they are there. For [name]Molly[/name]/[name]Mollie[/name], though, I don’t think people will assume she’s a [name]Mary[/name]. It could happen once in a great while, but I think it’s got a lot more distance than say [name]Maggie[/name] has from [name]Margaret[/name] or [name]Kate[/name] has from [name]Katherine[/name]. I do think [name]Mary[/name]'s a great name though that deserves more love than it’s getting - and [name]Mary[/name] can be [name]May[/name] or [name]Molly[/name] or [name]Polly[/name] or probably some others. I mean, [name]Molly[/name] could be [name]Polly[/name] too : D.
[name]Mollie[/name] isn’t youneek or kree8teev to me. Mahli or something would be (except that looks like it might be a name in another language or something : D. Well Mahli for [name]Molly[/name] would be younique). BUT [name]Mollie[/name] is what I would call non-default. See, there are a few names that are pretty equally distributed - [name]Catherine[/name]/[name]Katherine[/name] is the best example - many people won’t presume a spelling, I’d think (they might). Or [name]Sarah[/name] / [name]Sara[/name] - people might still assume, but at times would at least ask “with or without the h?”. But even if the less guessed form has some inconvenience in having to be spelled out or clarified, they’re not youneek – that would be Khaethrihnne or Ssairruh or something.
But [name]Mollie[/name], even though not youneek, people are going to default to [name]Molly[/name] - not the worst thing, although if her last name is hard to spell (and keep in mind it might one day change) it’s one more thing to spell. So [name]Molly[/name] has an advantage, but if you love [name]Mollie[/name], then OK : D.
I actually find the dissonance of generation in [name]Mollie[/name] [name]Cadence[/name] more appealing than the dissonance of most names that might follow that pattern to some degree – better than [name]Polly[/name] [name]Isla[/name] or something. But I do think something better is probably out there. Name combos with different numbers of syllables are usually nice.
Thank you jesba! That is TOTALLY my take on the whole “yooneek” thing too.
And nicole_1024, thank you for all of the suggestions!!!
I [name]LOVE[/name] [name]Josephine[/name] nn [name]Josie[/name]… it’s too bad I have a 5 year old cousin with that name : S. She’s technically not even blood related but my family’s close enough that it might still be weird. I’ve still been considering it though since it’s been a [name]LONG[/name] time favorite of mine.
I really like [name]Leila[/name] (pronounced [name]Lee[/name] la right?) from your list too! [name]How[/name] well do you think this name ages though? [name]Do[/name] you think a 30 year old “[name]Leila[/name]” would be taken seriously on an application or whatever?
Unfortunately I can’t use [name]Grace[/name], [name]Hannah[/name], [name]Lily[/name], [name]Abigail[/name], [name]Rachel[/name], [name]Kate[/name]/[name]Kaitlyn[/name], [name]Amelia[/name], [name]Laura[/name], or [name]Maisie[/name] (I think that’s all of them lol) because they have all been used by either my family or my husband’s family… which KILLS me because I like them all!
Ugh… so frustrating!!
Well thanks to those who are taking the time to help me out… again, it is VERY much appreciated : ).
I like [name]Mollie[/name]/[name]Molly[/name] (the -ie spelling doesn’t bother me–it’s a recognized variation), I like [name]Cadence[/name] (especially since it has meaning for you and your husband), but I don’t like the two together very much. [name]Mollie[/name] is a sweet, nicknamey name, and [name]Cadence[/name] is a modern word name. I think [name]Cadence[/name] works better with a more formal sounding first, like [name]Mary[/name] [name]Cadence[/name] or [name]Margaret[/name] [name]Cadence[/name] or [name]Marissa[/name] [name]Cadence[/name], any of which could get you to [name]Mollie[/name] as a nn. [name]Mollie[/name] works better with a more formal sounding middle, like [name]Mollie[/name] [name]Caroline[/name], or [name]Mollie[/name] [name]Cordelia[/name] like the pp suggested. My preference is to have at least one of the names be pretty formal and traditional to balance the other, if that makes sense.
No! It’s the exact opposite! [name]How[/name] do you picture a [name]Tiffany[/name]? [name]Kimberly[/name]? [name]Peggy[/name]? These are names that became so overused in their time period that there is a permanent association. Whereas a name like [name]Julia[/name] probably does not conjure up a specific image or time because it’s been consistently, but quietly used.
[name]Molly[/name] is a little bit too nicknamey for me personally, but not necessarily in general. [name]Mollie[/name], however, definitely makes it too much of a nickname.
i was tossing molly/mollie around until i found that it means “sea of bitterness”. i’m not HUGE on meanings but i try to avoid anything that seems negative. just thought i’d throw that out there for you to consider.
It’s HIGHLY doubtful that’s what [name]Molly[/name] means. [name]Molly[/name] comes from [name]Mary[/name] - "Usual English form of [name]Maria[/name], which was the Latin form of the New Testament Greek names ??? ([name]Mariam[/name]) and ??? ([name]Maria[/name]) - the spellings are interchangeable - which were from the Hebrew name ??? ([name]Miryam[/name]). The meaning is not known for certain, but there are several theories including “sea of bitterness”, “rebelliousness”, and “wished for child”. However it was most likely originally an Egyptian name, perhaps derived in part from mry “beloved” or mr “love”.
Basically it’s similar to a Hebrew word for bitter, but it’s probably not Hebrew as non-Jewish Egyptians were named versions of [name]Mary[/name].
Yeah, the “bitter” part of [name]Mary[/name]'s meaning history was explained well by previous poster, and the “sea” part is a conflation of the Hebrew/Egyptian side of things with the Latin, because mar in Latin means sea (think about marine, marina…also mar is still the Spanish word for sea, and maybe is the word for it in other [name]Romance[/name] languages too).
So the bitter part is problematic, but “sea of bitterness” is not the most natural meaning…it might mean either sea or bitter, but only means both by combining the two (or more) language histories.
However, I do still think it is cheesy. :lol: