An honor name… without being an honor name?

Alright I need your help!!

[name_f]My[/name_f] partner is very against using family names/honor names, which usually wouldn’t be a problem for me… however, if current baby is a sticky one, it will be due around my late grandmother’s birthday. I had a dream about this months ago where said grandma was adamant about honoring her name if we were to have a baby & for me that’s a sign.

So can y’all make some suggestions of honor names that don’t scream honor names in this case?

Name to be honored: [name_f]Mary[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]

Her maiden name isn’t a great one otherwise I’d sneak that in as an option lol

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Wishing you the best of luck!
Some names that could work;

Marisol
Maisie
May
Minnie
Marianna
Margaret
Marigold
Marina
Marilyn
Marriott
Marietta
Mara
Maribel

Cia
Trisha / Trish
Petra
Patrice
Patrina
Patava
Patience
Trixie

I think any [name_f]Mar[/name_f]- name could work! [name_m]Or[/name_m] a traditional [name_f]Mary[/name_f] nickname that’s not obvious like [name_f]Molly[/name_f] or [name_f]Polly[/name_f].

[name_m]Marco[/name_m]
[name_f]Marley[/name_f]
[name_f]Maris[/name_f]
[name_f]Marina[/name_f]
[name_m]Marcus[/name_m]
[name_f]Marina[/name_f]
[name_f]Marlowe[/name_f]
[name_m]Martin[/name_m]
[name_f]Martina[/name_f]
[name_f]Marissa[/name_f]
[name_f]Mara[/name_f]
[name_f]Meredith[/name_f]
[name_f]Margaret[/name_f]
[name_f]Margot[/name_f]

I tried to suggest some that are less obviously connected to [name_f]Mary[/name_f] (as opposed to [name_f]Marie[/name_f] or [name_f]Marianne[/name_f] for example) so it’s more subtle.

Otherwise maybe…
[name_f]Rosemary[/name_f]
[name_m]Patrick[/name_m]
[name_f]Maple[/name_f] (from M- P- initials)
[name_f]Patience[/name_f]
[name_m]Patterson[/name_m]
[name_f]Alicia[/name_f]
[name_f]Leticia[/name_f]
[name_m]Ramy[/name_m] or [name_m]Army[/name_m] (same letters as Mary)
Airy
[name_f]Mira[/name_f]
[name_f]Maya[/name_f]
[name_f]Amara[/name_f]

[name_f]Marcia[/name_f] (MARy patriCIA)

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Some of these might be a bit stretchy

[name_f]Mary[/name_f] Patricia…

[name_f]Maple[/name_f]
[name_f]May[/name_f]
[name_f]Maya[/name_f]
[name_m]Pax[/name_m]
[name_m]Paxton[/name_m]
[name_f]Marty[/name_f]
[name_f]Mia[/name_f]
[name_f]Marcia[/name_f]
[name_f]Marley[/name_f]
[name_f]Merryn[/name_f]
[name_m]Parker[/name_m]
[name_f]Maci[/name_f] / [name_f]Macie[/name_f]
[name_f]Maisy[/name_f]
[name_m]Parry[/name_m]
[name_f]Marlo[/name_f]
[name_m]Mats[/name_m]
[name_m]Marius[/name_m]
[name_m]Murphy[/name_m]
Marisposa
[name_m]Micky[/name_m]
[name_f]Marianne[/name_f]
[name_f]Marina[/name_f]
[name_f]Priya[/name_f]
[name_m]Mars[/name_m]
[name_f]Marcie[/name_f]
[name_f]Arya[/name_f]
[name_m]Pip[/name_m]
[name_f]Pippa[/name_f]
[name_f]Amy[/name_f]
[name_m]Ray[/name_m]
[name_m]Marshall[/name_m]
[name_m]Tristan[/name_m]

or you could just sneak in a combo with M.P initials

[name_f]Girl[/name_f]:
[name_f]Emera[/name_f]
Marelise
[name_f]Mariska[/name_f]
[name_f]Marlena[/name_f]
[name_f]Margaux[/name_f]
[name_f]Maisie[/name_f]
[name_f]Mira[/name_f]
[name_f]Maelynn[/name_f]

[name_m]Boy[/name_m]:
[name_m]Markus[/name_m]
[name_m]Patrick[/name_m] (fairly obvious but maybe?)

Otherwise any M or P initials could work!

[name_f]Do[/name_f] you know if your baby is a boy or a girl?

[name_f]Ary[/name_f] would be nice for a boy!

Similar to [name_f]Mary[/name_f]:
[name_f]Maren[/name_f]
[name_f]Mariah[/name_f]
[name_m]Ryan[/name_m] (Mary)
[name_f]Mercy[/name_f]
Amary
[name_f]Mariama[/name_f]
[name_f]Marian[/name_f], [name_f]Mariana[/name_f] or [name_f]Marianna[/name_f]
[name_f]Carys[/name_f]
[name_f]Amaryllis[/name_f]
[name_f]Darya[/name_f]
[name_f]Mariel[/name_f]
[name_f]Kamaria[/name_f]
[name_m]Marcel[/name_m], [name_f]Marcela[/name_f] or [name_f]Marceline[/name_f]
[name_m]Daryl[/name_m]
[name_f]Hillary[/name_f]
[name_m]Marcio[/name_m]
[name_m]Amari[/name_m]
[name_f]Dagmar[/name_f]
[name_m]Zachary[/name_m]
[name_f]Marion[/name_f]
[name_f]Mariette[/name_f]
[name_f]Marika[/name_f]
[name_f]Marisa[/name_f] or [name_f]Mariza[/name_f]
[name_m]Mark[/name_m]
[name_f]Marlene[/name_f]
[name_m]Marlon[/name_m]
[name_f]Martha[/name_f]
[name_f]Marvel[/name_f]
[name_m]Marino[/name_m]
[name_m]Mario[/name_m]
[name_f]Damaris[/name_f]
[name_f]Marcy[/name_f]
[name_f]Margery[/name_f]
[name_f]Samara[/name_f]
[name_f]Tamar[/name_f] or [name_f]Tamara[/name_f]
[name_m]Valdemar[/name_m]

With a similar meaning to “drop of the sea”, “bitter” or “beloved”:
[name_m]Aziz[/name_m] - “powerful, respected, beloved”
[name_f]Mabel[/name_f] - “lovable”
[name_m]Jedidiah[/name_m] - “beloved of the Lord”
[name_f]Amanda[/name_f] - “lovable, worthy of love”
[name_f]Esme[/name_f] - “esteemed, loved”
[name_f]Derya[/name_f] - “sea, ocean”
[name_f]Indra[/name_f] - “possessing drops of rain”
[name_f]Cara[/name_f] - “beloved”
[name_m]Kevin[/name_m] - “beloved birth”
[name_f]Morgan[/name_f] - “sea circle”
[name_f]Naia[/name_f] - “wave, sea foam”
[name_f]Maite[/name_f] - “beloved”
[name_f]Carina[/name_f] - “dear, beloved”
[name_m]Kai[/name_m] - “sea”
[name_f]Kailani[/name_f] - “ocean, sea” and “sky, heaven”
[name_f]Kaimana[/name_f] - “ocean or sea power”
[name_f]Moana[/name_f] - “ocean, deep sea”
[name_f]Nerissa[/name_f] and [name_f]Nereida[/name_f] - “nymph, sea sprite”
[name_f]Thalassa[/name_f] - “sea”
[name_f]Muriel[/name_f] - “bright sea”

Similar to [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]:
[name_f]Beatrice[/name_f]
[name_m]Atticus[/name_m] (shares some letters with Patricia)
[name_f]Katrina[/name_f] or [name_f]Catrina[/name_f] (shares some letters with Patricia)
[name_f]Demetria[/name_f] or [name_m]Demetrio[/name_m]
[name_f]Leatrice[/name_f]
[name_f]Petra[/name_f] or [name_m]Peter[/name_m] or [name_m]Pietro[/name_m] or [name_f]Pietra[/name_f]
[name_m]Triton[/name_m]
[name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f]
[name_f]Acacia[/name_f]
[name_f]Alicia[/name_f]
[name_f]Anastacia[/name_f]
[name_f]Capricia[/name_f]
[name_m]Cian[/name_m]
[name_f]Ciara[/name_f]
[name_f]Clemencia[/name_f]
[name_f]Fabricia[/name_f]
[name_f]Felicia[/name_f]
[name_f]Florencia[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucia[/name_f]
[name_f]Valencia[/name_f]

With a similar meaning to “noble, patrician”:
[name_m]Brendan[/name_m] - “king, prince”
[name_m]Alphonso[/name_m] - “noble and ready”
[name_f]Ethel[/name_f] - “noble”
Candance- “queen mother”
[name_f]Regina[/name_f] - “queen”
[name_f]Adara[/name_f] - “noble”
[name_m]King[/name_m]
[name_m]Mael[/name_m] - “prince, chieftain, lord”
[name_f]Rani[/name_f] - “queen”
[name_f]Adelaide[/name_f] - “nobleness, nobility”
[name_m]Cyril[/name_m] - “lord”
[name_m]Earl[/name_m] - “nobleman, warrior”
[name_m]Duke[/name_m]
[name_f]Alice[/name_f] - “noble”
[name_f]Reina[/name_f] - “queen”
[name_f]Arwen[/name_f] - “noble maiden”
[name_f]Sarah[/name_f], [name_f]Sara[/name_f], [name_f]Sadie[/name_f] and [name_f]Sarai[/name_f] - “princess”
[name_m]Emyr[/name_m] - “king, lord”
[name_m]Rei[/name_m] - “king”
Adelmar - “famous noble”
[name_m]Kaiser[/name_m] - “emperor”
[name_m]Noble[/name_m]
[name_m]Laird[/name_m] - “landowner”
[name_f]Nerys[/name_f] - “lady”
[name_m]Regis[/name_m] - “ruler”
[name_m]Albert[/name_m] - “bright noble”

I’m not a big fan of using the exact name myself, but maybe variants could work?
Any names with [name_f]Mar[/name_f] or [name_f]Ary[/name_f] sound could work, IMO.

[name_f]Marina[/name_f]
[name_f]Marigold[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosemary[/name_f]
[name_f]Marcia[/name_f]
Aria/Arya
[name_f]Margo[/name_f]
[name_f]Petra[/name_f]

[name_m]Or[/name_m] even less obvious route… [name_f]Patricia[/name_f] means noble, so:
[name_f]Alice[/name_f]
[name_f]Adeline[/name_f]
[name_f]Adalia[/name_f]
[name_f]Audrey[/name_f]

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[name_f]Molly[/name_f] would be cute. Was she born in a city with a cool name?

[name_f]Mary[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]

[name_f]Patricia[/name_f] means noble so you could go with any name of the same meaning. [name_f]Alice[/name_f] or [name_f]Alicia[/name_f] work well. [name_f]Audrey[/name_f] would be lovely as well. [name_f]Patience[/name_f] sounds like a perfect substitute for [name_f]Patricia[/name_f].

[name_f]Love[/name_f] the suggestion of matching initials.

In place of [name_f]Mary[/name_f] I love [name_f]May[/name_f] or [name_f]Molly[/name_f].

[name_f]May[/name_f] [name_f]Alice[/name_f] or [name_f]Alice[/name_f] [name_f]May[/name_f]
[name_f]Mercy[/name_f] [name_f]Alice[/name_f]
[name_f]Matilda[/name_f] [name_f]Alice[/name_f]

[name_f]May[/name_f] [name_f]Paloma[/name_f]
[name_f]Matilda[/name_f] [name_f]Patience[/name_f]

Unfortunately the city she was born in 1. doesn’t have a good name option and 2. shares a name with the city my partner and I currently live in. So that’s out lol

Would you consider naming the child something related to your grandma’s interests/personality, or would that not be enough of an honour?

E.g. my grandma had the most amazing garden which she practically lived in, so I’d consider names such as [name_f]Anthea[/name_f] (flowery), [name_f]Dahlia[/name_f], [name_f]Flora[/name_f], [name_f]Chloe[/name_f] etc a potential honour to her in a sense, through meaning.

Otherwise [name_f]Ada[/name_f] is another name meaning noble/nobility, although it sounds nothing like [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]. [name_m]Or[/name_m] if you look at the meaning of [name_f]Mary[/name_f] as ‘bitter sea’, there are loads of other names with sea on the meaning, like (I think!) [name_f]Mira[/name_f], [name_f]Nerissa[/name_f], [name_f]Morgan[/name_f], [name_m]Irving[/name_m]?

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PATri maRy Cia

Partridge

Pana- Partridge in Inuit

lol

But really,
Miriam
Maren
Pamela
Rosemary
Polly

Marian
(Some of these could be middles?)
Mora :heart:
Naomi
Mara❤️
Mona
Trisha
There are a whole bunch of names that mean noble like Patricia! Ex:
Adela
Alice
Freya

For me personally, indirect honours are far more meaningful when they are about the person, rather than a tenuous version of their name that isn’t their actual name. For eg, fave flower / gemstone / bird / animal (for eg [name_f]Orpah[/name_f] or [name_f]Ayelet[/name_f] mean fawn / deer, [name_f]Oona[/name_f] means lamb, [name_f]Philippa[/name_f] is horse lover) or birth flower or gemstone, birth month, or something related to their hobbies or something they loved, for example [name_f]Sylva[/name_f] / [name_f]Sylvia[/name_f] if they loved woodland walks, [name_f]Fable[/name_f] if they loved stories, [name_f]Odela[/name_f] if they loved music or singing, [name_f]Aysel[/name_f] / [name_f]Phoebe[/name_f] / [name_f]Diana[/name_f] / [name_f]Luna[/name_f] etc if they loved the moon, [name_f]Asherah[/name_f] / [name_f]Cordelia[/name_f] etc if they loved the sea (sea meanings would also tie in with the meaning of Mary). [name_f]Pearl[/name_f] or something meaning [name_f]Pearl[/name_f] eg [name_f]Margaret[/name_f] and variants (my fave is Magali) could be a sweet nod - as [name_f]Mary[/name_f] has a sea meaning, and pearls are formed from the sea :heart: So your daughter is your precious gem, derived from / descended from / shaped by your grandmother :blush:.

If you want an honour from her actual names which I’d understand because of your dream, you have an excellent source name in [name_f]Mary[/name_f] that gives a plethora of variations, many examples of which you’ve already had but my favourites are -

[name_f]Marlaina[/name_f]
[name_f]Mairi[/name_f]
[name_f]Mariette[/name_f] / [name_f]Marietta[/name_f]
[name_f]Muriel[/name_f] (sparkling sea)

[name_f]Magdalene[/name_f] / [name_f]Magdalena[/name_f] is also a name obviously very closely linked to [name_f]Mary[/name_f], and shares the bitter meaning.

You have so many fab options, best of luck :four_leaf_clover::heart:

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Sorry, realised I’ve completely assumed the baby is a girl - I’m not as good with boys names but there are plenty of [name_f]Mar[/name_f]- ones that you’ve had lots of examples of already, or perhaps birth month or a variant might be suitable. The sea meaning also introduces lots of scope.

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No worries! I’m very very early at this point, but this thought came to me the other day and I couldn’t shake it so I came looking for options early :sweat_smile:

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