Are these just too effeminate?

LOL! You must be thinking of indie music artist [name]Sufjan[/name] Stevens. :slight_smile: His name is pronounced Soof-yawn. That’s a creative source for Saff, to be sure. :slight_smile:

[name]Sanford[/name]? Kind of a stretch, I guess.

I would NOT use [name]Grace[/name] for a boy even in the middle. [name]Even[/name] though it is technically, a neutral (non-gendered) noun, it IS a common girls’ name. A boy with the middle name [name]Grace[/name] will almost surely be embarrassed of the name. I recommend giving your son a full name he will feel good about.

That really surprises me. [name]Saffron[/name] in the UK is all girl, ranked #370 last year and peaked at #133 in 2000. It doesn’t even rank for boys at all. Must be a regional difference.

[name]Joseph[/name] nn [name]Seff[/name]/Saff is a brilliant suggestion.

I would assume [name]Saffron[/name] is a girls name. [name]Archer[/name] [name]Grace[/name] as a boys name has less potential for teasing in that he would mostly go by [name]Archer[/name], but [name]Grace[/name] is such a girl’s name that you’d have to explain it in that context of why you gave him such a middle name. I think it unlikely he would get through school without it coming out, or family saying something etc.

There is an author named [name]Jonathan[/name] [name]Saffron[/name] Foer (Everything is Illuminated), and its the only thing I can think of that shows it could work on a boy. I would still probably use it for the middle name though.

He’s Safran, which is a Jewish surname. His mother’s maiden name, I believe.

Oh is it?

It’s pronounced like [name]Saffron[/name] though.

But maybe that would be another option for the “Saff” sound.

It is Safran yes. His mother’s maiden name. He writes nice books.

[name]Saffron[/name] in [name]England[/name] is all girl, I couldn’t dream of a boy names this.

[name]Reading[/name] through all these comments, I’m kinda into Safford [name]Grey[/name] now. [name]Archer[/name] is good too, but Safford is super cool. And Saff is great. Please do not burden your boy with [name]Saffron[/name], [name]Sapphire[/name] (yikes!), or a middle name of [name]Grace[/name].

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