Does Alfie need a full name?

I’ve really started to love [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] lately but I can’t stand [name_m]Alfred[/name_m] at all. I think it can stand alone but does it need to be short for [name_m]Alfred[/name_m] or are there other options and does it have to be short for [name_m]Alfred[/name_m] if I can’t stand [name_m]Alfred[/name_m].

[name_f]Ebony[/name_f]

[name_u]Alfie[/name_u] is ranket at #7 in [name_f]England[/name_f] and [name_m]Wales[/name_m]; that’s 4843 little Alfies hanging around without a fuller name. But we do love the nn versions here in E&W!

Some options:
[name_m]Ralph[/name_m]
[name_m]Alfonso[/name_m]/[name_m]Alphonse[/name_m]/[name_m]Alfons[/name_m]
Alphard
[name_f]Alpha[/name_f]/[name_m]Aleph[/name_m]
[name_m]Alpheus[/name_m]
Alfar/[name_m]Alvar[/name_m]
Alfwin

These doesn’t make as much sense, but it could work… maybe:
[name_m]Rafael[/name_m]/[name_m]Raphael[/name_m]
[name_m]Randolph[/name_m]
[name_m]Ranulph[/name_m]

I personally also don’t like [name_m]Alfred[/name_m] but I love [name_u]Alfie[/name_u]. I don’t think their is any need for it to have a longer form.

@Otter the popularity in [name_f]England[/name_f] and [name_m]Wales[/name_m] makes it seem alright to me and here most of the nicknamey names are taking off. I love [name_m]Raphael[/name_m] nn [name_u]Alfie[/name_u].
@[name_f]Caitlin[/name_f], I tend to like short forms and I can imagine a Dr [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] surname perfectly fine :slight_smile:

I think people would assume it was short for [name_m]Alfred[/name_m] and call him that by mistake, but if that doesn’t bother you then it’s very popular here, as @ottilie said.

I think in the UK and Australia, [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] is accepted as a stand-alone name pretty easily and regularly. In [name_u]North[/name_u] [name_u]America[/name_u], I think it’d be strange to meet a little [name_u]Alfie[/name_u], nicknamed or not.
I think [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] is just fine as-is :slight_smile:

@ottilie I [name_f]Love[/name_f] [name_m]Raphael[/name_m] / [name_m]Rafael[/name_m] nn [name_u]Alfie[/name_u].

@ebony It can stand on its own but I’ll take 2 names for the price of one anyday if I can find another name I like

[name_u]Alfie[/name_u] is cute, but when he’s grown it might be a different case. If he’s a musician, or storybooker writer, then yes, [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] is perfect on its own. I’ve always liked [name_m]Rafael[/name_m], but it’ unusable for me because my cousins used it. [name_m]Rafael[/name_m]/[name_m]Raphael[/name_m] nn [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] would be cute, and unexpected!

I like raphael nn [name_u]Alfie[/name_u], super cute!
I have always preferred formal longer versions to go with nicknames as nicknames alone (in particular ones that end in the ‘ee’ sound) seem too casual and incomplete. I understand about feeling like [name_m]Alfred[/name_m] isn’t the most awesome full version :wink: but raphael is a great alternative, adds so much potential diversity/flexibility to [name_u]Alfie[/name_u]!

I’m not sure what the Australian stats are, but like has been previously mentioned, [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] as a stand-alone name is very popular in E+W. I agree with you that [name_m]Alfred[/name_m] isn’t the most attractive name - to me, it’s a bit grandpa fusty - but [name_m]Raphael[/name_m] nn [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] is unexpected and cute, though [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] on it’s own works fine. As an adult he can use [name_m]Alf[/name_m] if he wants to as well.

I say yes, [name_m]Alfred[/name_m] is nice with the nn [name_u]Alfie[/name_u]. I am big on full names. Especially when you start applying for real jobs.

If you live in [name_u]North[/name_u] [name_u]America[/name_u], I’d say yeah [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] probably needs a full first.

I’m not sure why nns as full names seem to work so much better in the UK or Australia, but [name_u]America[/name_u] and [name_f]Canada[/name_f] seem to greatly prefer a full first.

I love [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] and hate all the full names that nn to [name_u]Alfie[/name_u]. But as i live in [name_u]America[/name_u], i feel like i can’t use [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] on it’s own, specifically because i can’t imagine an adult putting [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] on his resume or walking into a company and seeing [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] Surname on someone’s door. It just seems silly here.

@essjay you download the top 100 here its a pdf titled baby names 2013 http://mccrindle.com.au/free-mccrindle-research-resource
@ameliawilliams I’m Australian and I’m sure it would be fine here as [name_u]Charlie[/name_u] is more popular than [name_m]Charles[/name_m]

@essjay you download the top 100 here its a pdf titled baby names 2013 http://mccrindle.com.au/free-mccrindle-research-resource
@ameliawilliams I’m Australian and I’m sure it would be fine here as [name_u]Charlie[/name_u] is more popular than [name_m]Charles[/name_m]

Hear, hear! Give your child choices, as all long form names do - not the limitation of a very popular nickname.

[name_f]Love[/name_f] [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] - just wonder about an [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] going for job interviews etc, and whether it grows with his age. It’s abit like all the little [name_u]Freddie[/name_u]'s and [name_u]Frankie[/name_u]'s out there. I do love [name_m]Raphael[/name_m] and call him raph/ [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] for short.

I also adore [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] but really dislike [name_m]Alfred[/name_m], even shortening to [name_m]Alf[/name_m] for an adult… (will forever think Home and Away!) so [name_m]Raphael[/name_m] seems a great way to go! Then when he’s older, the child can choose [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] or Raph as a nn.

And actually, I think [name_u]Jude[/name_u] [name_m]Law[/name_m] pulled off an adult [name_u]Alfie[/name_u] really well, though I’m not sure many mothers would envision that type of lifestyle for their baby boys… :wink: [name_m]Just[/name_m] a thought!