First Name for Carmen

Hello,

This is my first post to Nameberry, and y’all have great advice so I’m looking forward to hearing from you. I have two boys: [name_u]Dylan[/name_u] and [name_m]Jacob[/name_m], and I’m expecting a little girl in [name_u]July[/name_u]. We think her middle name will be [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] (her Great-grandmother’s name) but can’t agree on a first name (and we don’t like [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] as a first name). Our last name is [name_m]Allen[/name_m], so a lot of the cute names that start with vowels don’t work. We like [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] (supposed to be common, but I only know 1). I love [name_f]Malina[/name_f], but husband hates it. Any Ideas?

[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Felicity[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Zoe[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Naomi[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Elodie[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]

[name_f]Olivia[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m] is really pretty. It goes well with [name_u]Dylan[/name_u] and [name_m]Jacob[/name_m]. And I don’t know very many [name_f]Olivia[/name_f]'s either. I think it’s just one of those names that everyone immediately recognizes but rarely use. [name_m]Just[/name_m] my theory.

Could [name_f]Marina[/name_f] work? It’s similar to [name_f]Malina[/name_f], but maybe more familiar. [name_f]Marina[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m] has a nice flow to it. [name_f]Mary[/name_f] could be a nice nickname, if your husband is into more traditional names.

[name_f]Isabel[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m] could be pretty. I think the single “l” version works best with the double “l” [name_m]Allen[/name_m]. It’s not as common as [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f], and I’ve never met an [name_f]Isabel[/name_f]/[name_f]Isabelle[/name_f]/[name_f]Isobel[/name_f] before. I kind of like how [name_f]Isabel[/name_f] [name_m]Allen[/name_m] sounds, but I could understand why it might be a “no”.

[name_f]Valerie[/name_f] kind of reminds me [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] for some reason. Might be the similar letters. But [name_f]Valerie[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m] is kind of pretty. I don’t know how well it works with [name_u]Dylan[/name_u] and [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] (maybe [name_f]Violet[/name_f] would suit them better), but it’s not a totally common name.

I like the sound of [name_f]Bethany[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m], [name_f]Madeline[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m], [name_f]Milena[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m], [name_f]Serena[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m], [name_f]Teresa[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m], and [name_f]Emily[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m] if any of those work for you.

These are just my suggestions. I hope they’re helpful! I do really like [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] [name_m]Allen[/name_m] but go with what feels right :slight_smile: Good luck!

I think [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] [name_m]Allen[/name_m] sounds great great and works well with [name_u]Dylan[/name_u] and [name_m]Jacob[/name_m]. Other suggestions:

[name_f]Audrey[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Lucy[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Lily[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Amelia[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_u]Eloise[/name_u] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]

This is a popularity list based off of the number of birth registered with the social security administration, I would say it’s pretty accurate. Your state may not have as many Olivias as other places. I am in the south and it’s pretty darned popular here. My daughters daycare is a pretty small facility and there are two. My son is in second grade and he also has several [name_f]Olivia[/name_f]'s in his grade alone. VBut if you use the search by state tool, you can see [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] in some states isn’t#2. In District of [name_f]Columbia[/name_f], for example, it is down to number 6, with only 41 girls in the state named [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] in 2015.

If you think [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] is the name for you, you should use it. Popularity shouldn’t automatically nix a name, if that’s not the kind of thing that bothers you. That being said, some suggestions:

[name_f]Sophie[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Nora[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Emilia[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Melanie[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Aurora[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Eva[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Luna[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]

What about …
[name_f]Alicia[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Erica[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Isabella[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Natalie[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Ramona[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Roxanna[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u]

Hmm…
[name_u]Dylan[/name_u] & [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] are lovely names and sound great with [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] - [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] is a pretty feminine choice and I like the name [name_f]Liv[/name_f]. I think [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] sound lovely and it’s good that you both love this choice.

Other suggestions:
[name_f]Sophia[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] ~ [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Sophia[/name_f]
[name_f]Ava[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] ~ [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Ava[/name_f]
[name_f]Eva[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] ~ [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Eva[/name_f]
[name_f]Audrey[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] ~ [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Audrey[/name_f]
[name_f]Lila[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] ~ [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Lila[/name_f]
[name_f]Phoebe[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] ~ [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Phoebe[/name_f]
[name_f]Eleanor[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] ~ [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f]
[name_f]Eliza[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] ~ [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Eliza[/name_f]
[name_f]Isla[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] ~ [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Isla[/name_f]
[name_f]Francesca[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u] ~ [name_u]Dylan[/name_u], [name_m]Jacob[/name_m] & [name_f]Francesca[/name_f]

: )

Thanks, this was really helpful. We live in the south too, and I’ll have to check to see how many [name_f]Olivia[/name_f]‘s are at my sons’ school…none that I know of.

Thanks Lori101! I (we both) really love [name_f]Sophia[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u], but emotionally I’m having trouble with it (just a hard name for this rainbow baby). I like [name_f]Lila[/name_f] and [name_f]Audrey[/name_f]. I’ll have to check with my husband. I don’t think I can do [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f], because if it gets shorted to [name_f]Ellie[/name_f], my daughter would be [name_f]Ellie[/name_f] [name_m]Allen[/name_m], which I don’t like.

Amandalhenshaw, thanks for the ideas! I like [name_f]Isobella[/name_f] (I used to be called [name_f]Bella[/name_f] in college) and [name_f]Natalie[/name_f]. one of our college buddies has a daughter named [name_f]Natalie[/name_f], but we never see them. It might be ok to repeat it. All your suggestions have 3 syllables, was that a coincidence or do you think 3 syllables sound best with [name_u]Carmen[/name_u], our last name, and the boys’ names?

Auroralights, thanks for the suggestions. I [name_u]LOVE[/name_u] [name_f]Sophia[/name_f] [name_u]Carmen[/name_u], but can’t use the name because it causes some emotional pain. [name_f]Nora[/name_f] is my aunt’s name. My husband suggested [name_f]Emelia[/name_f]/[name_f]Amelia[/name_f] but we didn’t know if that added to many vowels to go well with [name_m]Allen[/name_m]. [name_f]Melanie[/name_f] is close to [name_f]Melina[/name_f], I might try that with my husband. Your name is beautiful, unfortunately I have trouble pronouncing [name_f]Aurora[/name_f]. You’ve given me some ideas to think about!

Jariel, thanks for the ideas! I seriously have run [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] through my head 100 times, trying to figure out if it is outdated and if I would be ok with [name_f]Rosie[/name_f] as a nickname. I like the ‘lie’ at the end, because [name_u]Lee[/name_u] is my mom’s maiden name. I may put [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] on my long list!

Nic_blondie, these are some great suggestions! I’m really liking [name_f]Isobel[/name_f]. It was suggested by someone else too. I like the sound of [name_f]Marina[/name_f], but all I can think about when I say it in my head is a marina is a place where boats are parked and Merena is a type of birth control. I like [name_f]Emily[/name_f], it causes a little emotional distress in my family though. I like [name_f]Madeline[/name_f], but not the nickname [name_f]Maddy[/name_f] [name_m]Allen[/name_m]. [name_f]Valerie[/name_f] is my step-sister’s name. I’ve tried every combination of ‘ena’ or ‘ina’ at the end, and my DH doesn’t like any of them. Wait, I didn’t try [name_f]Sabrina[/name_f]. [name_f]Do[/name_f] you think that would work?

In 2015, [name_f]Olivia[/name_f] was the second most popular name in the US, but still only made up 1.01% of total births in the US. [name_m]Just[/name_m] to give you some perspective on popularity.

That’s an interesting statistic coddiwomple, and is a reminder of how many thousands of names there are out there.