Help.!

My bf and I alrdy have a 16 month old son named [name_m]Liam[/name_m], and are expecting a baby girl within the next month or so… With our son, the name was set in stone from halfway thru the pregnancy. BabyGirl is still nameless ><

As you you can gather my panic level is rising, and I’m beginning to fear that we’ll never agree on a name :frowning:
He likes Ziva, I have numerous reason for vetoing this (incl. it being too close to my ex’s old dog’s name). And I looove Enya, which he thinks is ugly, dated and sounds like an old hag.

I cannot express how much I love Enya. Apart from it giving me the same feeling that Liam did while expecting my son, Liam and Enya are from the same name-family (Ziva is Hebrew), and sound great together imo (bf is set on Ziva).

Now, I have a long name that does not sound the same internationaly.
Me and bf agree that name must work abroad too, and being a phoneticly frantic English major, it is important to me that name sounds similar internationaly. Ziva does not, as native tongue does not voice Z, so s/z is insistinguishable.

Furthermore I like short, 4-letter names. 2 syllables. Not easily shortened. Phonetically different from Liam. All different letters. Ending on vowel. Sounds good with Liam. Not starting with L. No “funky” spellings.

At current, we’re discussing Emily, Miley and Zoey, both having given up our #1.
You can see ofc, how none of these fulfill my demands. (The z in Zoey is still unvoiced in mother tongue, but the o-sound helps) I think Emily is my favourite, but I still keep coming back to Enya…

Am driving bf nuts that I cant let it go, and I wouldnt want him to “give in” hating the name, when he has to live with it for (hopefully) ever…

I have searched and searched the internet. Made lists. Started over. Rinsed & repeated again and again… Have given up caring about popularity. Just want to agree.

But we’re stuck.

Middle name is gonna be Mathilde after my much loved, recently deceased grandmother. Last name is 7 letters 2 syll. Germanic origin. Starts with an F.

Oh and have 8-y-o dog named Emma, so no go. And Liam’s full name is Liam Alexander.

Can any1 think of a name, that delivers on all the criteria, like Enya, but isnt that? Or somthn close at least?

Praying for divine intervention or just som1 with a grrreat name that isnt alrdy “out there” ;o)

Edit: any names with th making the sound as initially in Theodor are out. And so are names with J, as eg. Jane becomes Eane… Plus final e is pronounced here making a sort of eh/uh sound.

[name_m]How[/name_m] about…

[name_f]Elin[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_u]Ellis[/name_u] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_u]Hollis[/name_u] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Zinnia[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Alice[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_u]Elia[/name_u] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Eliane[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Eliza[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Jeannie[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f] / [name_f]Jannie[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Lana[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Maelie[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Maisie[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
Mylene [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Myriam[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Nina[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]

Also… have you though of [name_f]Anya[/name_f]? Maybe DH would prefer?

Best of luck to you!

[name_m]Liam[/name_m] and [name_f]Vita[/name_f]
[name_f]Ayla[/name_f]
[name_f]Aria[/name_f]
[name_f]Xenia[/name_f]
[name_f]Surya[/name_f]
[name_u]Sasha[/name_u]

[name_u]Arya[/name_u]
[name_f]Audrey[/name_f]
[name_f]Cara[/name_f]
[name_f]Chloe[/name_f]
[name_f]Daisy[/name_f]
[name_f]Esme[/name_f]
[name_f]Holly[/name_f]
[name_f]Isla[/name_f]
[name_f]Molly[/name_f]
[name_f]Nora[/name_f]
[name_f]Posey[/name_f]
[name_f]Thora[/name_f]

I wouldn’t use [name_f]Miley[/name_f] because of [name_f]Miley[/name_f] [name_m]Cyrus[/name_m] and [name_m]Liam[/name_m] Hemsworth… they probably won’t be relevant in a few years but still.

[name_f]Elin[/name_f] brings back bad memories for me.
[name_u]Elia[/name_u] got vetoed by bf.
Have a friend named [name_f]Nina[/name_f].
[name_f]Anya[/name_f] (and variations) have widely different initial a, not just in British vs. American.

[name_f]Vita[/name_f] becomes Fita in [name_m]German[/name_m]…
[name_f]Ayla[/name_f] has the issue of being pronounced as both ay or ai.
[name_f]Aria[/name_f] is inevitably 3 ayllables in mother tongue, with plural poss pronunciations :-/

[name_f]Cara[/name_f] has the same a issue ass above.
[name_f]Esme[/name_f] reminds me too much of Twilight.
The s in [name_f]Isla[/name_f] is not silent in MT.
I like [name_f]Nora[/name_f], but bf vetoed. Thinks it sounds old. Plus he cant get over it being the name in MT for that disney cow character that Goofey likes.

[name_f]Kira[/name_f] has also been vetoed by bf, as a rather famous blogger/ex-stripper here bares that name.

[name_f]Kiri[/name_f] is too special for me…

As you can see, this is like mission impossible ><
But tyvm for the inputs

Oh and [name_f]Lana[/name_f] also has the a problem…

No1 in this house minds the [name_f]Miley[/name_f] [name_m]Cyrus[/name_m] cognate, as long as BabyGirl doesnt adapt her tongue fetish. But hadnt considered the ex-couple issue of [name_m]Cyrus[/name_m] and Hemsworth. Maybe that’s why they have a nice ring together.
It will be taken into account though… [name_m]Ty[/name_m]

[name_m]Liam[/name_m] [name_m]Alexander[/name_m] and
[name_f]Veda[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosa[/name_f]
[name_f]Nola[/name_f]
[name_f]Nia[/name_f]
[name_f]Ora[/name_f]
[name_f]Tessa[/name_f]
[name_f]Cora[/name_f]
[name_f]Vera[/name_f]
[name_f]Clara[/name_f]
[name_f]Cleo[/name_f]/[name_f]Clio[/name_f]
[name_f]Maya[/name_f]
[name_f]Lexa[/name_f]
[name_f]Tasha[/name_f]
[name_f]Ivy[/name_f]
[name_f]Marie[/name_f]
[name_u]Luca[/name_u]
[name_f]Silvia[/name_f]
[name_u]Kelsey[/name_u]
[name_u]Kelly[/name_u]
[name_f]Cara[/name_f]/[name_f]Kara[/name_f]

With [name_m]Liam[/name_m], I like:

[name_f]Mary[/name_f]
[name_f]Margaret[/name_f]/[name_f]Maggie[/name_f]
[name_f]Eilish[/name_f]
[name_f]Elsa[/name_f]
[name_f]Kathleen[/name_f]
[name_f]Stella[/name_f]
[name_f]Phoebe[/name_f]
[name_f]Estelle[/name_f]
[name_f]Celia[/name_f]
[name_f]Scarlett[/name_f]

What about [name_f]Ayla[/name_f], [name_f]Aria[/name_f], or Aven? I think all those meet your criteria.

I think [name_f]Mira[/name_f] works well. Has international flair, and roots in many different cultures.

[name_f]Mira[/name_f] and [name_m]Liam[/name_m].

Other ideas:
[name_f]Adah[/name_f]
[name_f]Etta[/name_f]
[name_f]Ina[/name_f]
[name_f]Fia[/name_f]
[name_f]Elsa[/name_f]
[name_f]Jada[/name_f]
[name_f]Mara[/name_f]
[name_f]Mila[/name_f]
[name_f]Neva[/name_f]
[name_f]Selah[/name_f]
[name_f]Sena[/name_f]
[name_f]Sora[/name_f]
[name_f]Vera[/name_f]
[name_f]Zada[/name_f]
[name_f]Zara[/name_f]

Good luck! I feel like we are in just as difficult of a name situation for our [name_u]Baby[/name_u] Girl :slight_smile:

What’s your mother tongue? From what I got it might be [name_m]German[/name_m] but then some names (like [name_f]Vita[/name_f]) would actually work. So I’m not sure…

I think that [name_f]Anya[/name_f] would work really well. It’s a lot like [name_f]Enya[/name_f], but not as 'old hag’ish. Plus, [name_f]Anya[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f] sounds adorable wiht [name_m]Liam[/name_m] [name_m]Alexander[/name_m]!

What about [name_f]Ava[/name_f]? I’ve always liked [name_m]Liam[/name_m] & [name_f]Ava[/name_f] as a sibset. I also really like [name_m]Liam[/name_m] & [name_f]Stella[/name_f].
[name_m]Just[/name_m] a thought! Good luck on your search. You’ll find it!

Would be helpful to know what the mother tongue is! [name_m]Liam[/name_m] is an Irish name, as is [name_f]Enya[/name_f] … so are you hoping for something Irish?

[name_f]Ailis[/name_f]
[name_f]Adine[/name_f]
[name_f]Fiona[/name_f]
[name_f]Mina[/name_f]
[name_f]Uma[/name_f]
[name_f]Una[/name_f]
[name_f]Elena[/name_f] / [name_f]Eleni[/name_f]
[name_f]Calla[/name_f]
[name_f]Mira[/name_f]
[name_f]Sophia[/name_f]
[name_f]Anna[/name_f]
[name_f]Naya[/name_f] / [name_f]Maya[/name_f]
[name_f]Tyra[/name_f]
[name_f]Eva[/name_f]
[name_f]Ava[/name_f]

I’d tuck [name_f]Enya[/name_f] away in your heart. Perhaps after your bf see’s you give birth and is able to hold your little girl the name may just settle and he’ll be happy.
I’ve a name put away that my husband doesn’t like and but says he may agree to it for a middle name. In my mind and heart I know it’s the right name for baby. It’s so hard to agree though, see if he will soften though after the birth.

Dunno if I’m hoping for Irish… deffo wouldnt mind it :-/

Mother tongue is Danish, but have Norwegian relatives and friends in Japan, Germany, [name_u]Holland[/name_u], [name_f]France[/name_f], Spain, [name_f]Italy[/name_f], [name_u]Sweden[/name_u] and [name_f]England[/name_f]… [name_m]Hence[/name_m] the need for internationalism, at least to some degree (can’t please all)

Dad speaks Danish, I speak English (Br. accent), so for [name_f]Anya[/name_f] (and all like it) I would say ah-nia, dad would say aa-nia…

Best names would be ones assimilated unchanged into MT eg [name_f]Emily[/name_f], [name_f]Melanie[/name_f], [name_f]Monique[/name_f], because for eg [name_f]Danielle[/name_f] & [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f], the final e is “prominent”, but with an eh/uh sound that is tricky fir English speakers especially. In Skandinavian languages [name_f]Charlotte[/name_f] has more syllables than [name_m]Charlot[/name_m], and therefore they are two very different names…

I am trying to lock away [name_f]Enya[/name_f], but it’s hard when it fulfills all if my ‘practical’ criteria, and give me butterflies. But if it makes daddy cringe everytime he’d have to say it :frowning: I wouldnt want to cause a ripple between dad & daughter becoz I was stubborn about a name…

Most of the suggestions made fail on at least one of “pronunciation,” “association” etc… And all have been found/seen/heard elsewhere. I’m sure the hormones arent helping the situation much either ><

I kinda like Mira, but don’t you break your tongue a little on Mira Mathilde?

Here’s an idea. [name_m]How[/name_m] about her first name be [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]? [name_m]Liam[/name_m] and [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f] works just fine.
Also, it’s great that you are so internationally diverse, but you can’t worry about all your friends being able to pronounce your daughter’s name. You just say over the phone, “you pronounce it this way…” and it’s fine.
[name_f]Mira[/name_f] seems like your best option but here are a few more ideas. I couldn’t understand/remember all your criteria but hopefully these fit:
[name_f]Lucy[/name_f] - breaks L criteria, but is pretty international [name_f]IMO[/name_f]
[name_f]Marie[/name_f] or [name_f]Maria[/name_f]
[name_f]Sophie[/name_f] or [name_f]Sophia[/name_f]
[name_f]Olive[/name_f]
[name_f]Rose[/name_f]
[name_f]Erin[/name_f]
[name_f]Ella[/name_f]
[name_f]Isla[/name_f]
[name_u]Dana[/name_u]
[name_f]Tara[/name_f]
[name_f]Bria[/name_f]
[name_f]Willa[/name_f]
[name_f]Kate[/name_f]
[name_f]Calla[/name_f]
[name_f]Alice[/name_f]
Or maybe something more traditional:
[name_f]Katherine[/name_f], [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], [name_f]Marianne[/name_f], [name_f]Susannah[/name_f]

Also, [name_f]Mira[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f] is sweet. [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f] works as a fn though, you could just use that.

[name_m]Liam[/name_m] [name_m]Alexander[/name_m] and:

[name_f]Caia[/name_f]/[name_f]Kaia[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Cora[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Cassia[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Greta[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Ingrid[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Nora[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Aviva[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]
[name_f]Mila[/name_f] [name_f]Mathilde[/name_f]

What about [name_f]Kate[/name_f], [name_u]Arya[/name_u] (are-ya) or [name_f]Mia[/name_f]