Husband wants a "Junior" -- help!

My husband’s name is [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]. Apart from being popular, it’s actually a pretty name. Despite this, however, I HATE the idea of naming our son after him. I want our son to have his own identity, you know? I do not like the nickname [name]Danny[/name]. I have a coworker named [name]Danny[/name]. My husband is called [name]Daniel[/name] only - never [name]Danny[/name]. Calling them both “[name]Daniel[/name]” would get SO confusing. [name]Lucas[/name] is an “okay” name but I don’t like the idea of calling our son by it. [name]Luke[/name] is a much prettier name, in my opinion. All I can think of when I hear [name]Lucas[/name] is the TV show [name]One[/name] Tree [name]Hill[/name] and the sour candy. [name]Luke[/name] isn’t even a “great” name to me – I think of St. [name]Luke[/name]'s hospital, which is likely where I will deliver. The worst thing I can think, though, is the idea of having him called “[name]Junior[/name]”. Makes me cringe! Hubby said we can call him “DJ” which is just as bad. Bleh. I know I’m being picky, but I just can’t get my head around the name! My uncle is a [name]Junior[/name] and there was major financial repercussions when he got into drugs and stole my grandfather’s credit card info.

I don’t mind using either [name]Daniel[/name] or [name]Lucas[/name] (or both!) as middle names for a child — I just need to find a boy’s name that he likes as much as he likes his own name.

Right now, my boy name list is scarce. I like the name [name]Evan[/name] and hubby is “okay” with it – but it’s slowly starting to lose appeal for me for some reason. My [name]FAVORITE[/name] boy name is [name]Declan[/name] and he HATES it. >.< I tend to like softer sounding boy names. Hubby likes top 10 names - Daniel, Lucas, Alexander. I like names that are more unique. As far a girl name, Molly is our favorite at the moment.

Well, if he’s set on a [name]Junior[/name] he’s probably going to be hesitant or critical of anything else. I definitely think that if you feel strongly about not using his name that you explain all your reasoning and get him entirely on board. If it’s still in the realm of possibility, he’ll hold onto it.

[name]Do[/name] you dislike [name]Dan[/name] also?
If he was named [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] you could totally call him [name]Luke[/name]?

But if you really aren’t happy about either name, then don’t use it.

Other suggestions for softer names that straddle popularity
[name]Ethan[/name]
[name]Gavin[/name]
[name]Owen[/name]
[name]Liam[/name]
[name]Henry[/name]

Is the “junior” title killing you here? You could do like my cousins and use [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] II. I think it is a very nice name. You could call him [name]Lucas[/name], which I love!

My only suggestion is to use [name]Niel[/name]/[name]Niall[/name]/[name]Neil[/name] or [name]Dane[/name] as a nn for [name]Daniel[/name], although they don’t appeal to me anywhere near as much as [name]Daniel[/name] or [name]Danny[/name], personally.

If you are really against it, I would tell him. Naming is supposed to be a compromise, and with a jr., you’re not compromising. He’s doing it all. I honestly love both [name]Daniel[/name] and [name]Declan[/name], but it seems like neither is a viable option for you, so I would say something along the lines of how you don’t want a jr., you’ll take [name]Declan[/name] off the table if he’ll take [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name], [name]Jr[/name]. off the table, but you’re willing to use either [name]Daniel[/name] or [name]Lucas[/name] as a MN for him. And have him come up with a list of 10 names he likes/loves. And you come up with names as well, or whatever process works best for you. I think you just need to move past the brick wall called [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name], [name]Jr[/name]. :slight_smile: Once you do that, hopefully he’ll be helpful and open to other options. I think [name]Evan[/name] and [name]Gavin[/name] are great suggestions for a compromise between [name]Declan[/name] and [name]Daniel[/name]/[name]Lucas[/name]/[name]Alexander[/name], though.

[name]Do[/name] you think you could talk him into something like [name]Nathaniel[/name]? It’s similar to [name]Daniel[/name] but still different. I would ask him to make a list of names (other than [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]) that he loves and go from there.

This, I think, is the stinger as far as he’s concerned. I’m betting he’s taking it personally. So there’s absolutely no talking you into a compromise, is there? You say [name]Luke[/name] is the prettier name, so why not call him that? His legal name is [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name], he goes by [name]Luke[/name].

I love family names; they are a link, a tie, and that’s so important. It actually really bothers me that my name was chosen at random, with no meaning behind it whatsoever beyond “I liked the way it sounded and your dad said okay.” I would consider it a great honor to carry the same name as a beloved family member.

I don’t blame you–I would CRINGE if I found out my guy wanted a [name]Junior[/name]! There are plenty of ways to honor your husband without copying the name exactly. I honestly always thought if a guy wanted to give his son his exact same name was either conceited or lacked imagination; I’m sure other people would think that when they hear your husband AND your son’s name is [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]. If that doesn’t send your husband away from the idea, wouldn’t you feel weird saying your husband’s name during intimate times and then realize your baby’s name is the exact same name? I honestly couldn’t do it, and after bringing up that scenario to a few people, they decided against it, too.

You could do the common, easier route of finding names that branch off of [name]Daniel[/name] or names that [name]Daniel[/name] stemmed off from. Or end it with -son instead of -iel. OR you could do some research and find names that have the same meaning as [name]Daniel[/name] (Biblical or Classic names), or find names that start with D and L to match his father’s initials (example, [name]Darren[/name] [name]Lucius[/name]). Or you could even find names that have the same ending as [name]Daniel[/name] or [name]Lucas[/name] (examples: [name]Daniel[/name] to [name]Nathaniel[/name] or [name]Lucas[/name] to [name]Nicholas[/name]).

It sounds like your husband may not just like “popular” names, but names that are strong and sturdy but wearable all throughout life, much like [name]Daniel[/name], [name]Lucas[/name], or [name]Alexander[/name]–that’s pretty much why they’re in the Top 100. Look for names like that, and you’ll probably find a winner. That’s probably why he’s okay with [name]Evan[/name] but hates [name]Declan[/name]; [name]Evan[/name] is a strong, traditional male name, while [name]Declan[/name] is pretty different in comparison.

Chances are he would probably like at least one of these names:

[name]Nicholas[/name]
[name]Nathaniel[/name]
[name]Matthias[/name]
[name]Dominick[/name]
[name]Collin[/name]
[name]Thomas[/name]
[name]Adam[/name]
[name]Aaron[/name]
[name]Christopher[/name]
[name]Joseph[/name]
[name]Michael[/name]
[name]William[/name]
[name]Theodore[/name]
[name]Benjamin[/name]
[name]Vincent[/name]
[name]Seth[/name]

But what about you? Why does it have to be that if he doesn’t like it, its totally out. If it has a feel you like (like [name]Declan[/name]) but your husband doesn’t, its completely out of the question. That’s not fair, especially if he’s not looking for names as hard as you! If he expects to have a name he totally likes, maybe he should do some research as well. If he has been, then GOOD!

As for [name]Molly[/name], I think that’s cute. You could even do [name]Molly[/name] [name]Lucia[/name] or maybe honor your side of the family, if you haven’t done so already. Besides, I’m assuming they’re getting his last name anyway!

Honestly, the baby already (in most cases) is getting the father’s last name. I think it’s a bit selfish to also ask that the child get his first and middle name too. After all, YOU are carrying this child. Why should you not get to pick one of the names? I say use either [name]Daniel[/name] or [name]Lucas[/name] for your son’s middle name (or both as the middle names) and compromise on a different first name. You [name]BOTH[/name] have to like the name.

[name]Declan[/name] is actually on our name list and [name]Daniel[/name] was my late father’s name and first son’s middle name to honor him. Next baby’s MN will be after someone in my husband’s family since first born was after my side. Compromise, compromise, compromise!

Good luck!

I agree with pps that there has to be some discussion here (between you two, I mean). Could be he’s taking it personally that you don’t want to name the baby after him, or could be that the names themselves mean something to him. Family names are very important to me (I just think it means more to name children after family members, but I mostly prefer to pull from past generations), so I can see his point, but it shouldn’t be “my way” or “your way”, it should be you two together naming your child. Obviously some compromise is called for: [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] II? Taking his initials DL ([name]Declan[/name] [name]Louis[/name], for example, or [name]David[/name] [name]Lawrence[/name], etc.) instead of his whole name? Or as you said, using one of his names for the middle name? In my husband’s family naming the first son the father’s middle name (or giving the son the father’s first name for a middle) is almost assumed, though we chose one name from his side of the family and one from my side. There’s obviously going to have to be a compromise; and you two will just have to figure out what that will look like before actually choosing the names. Good luck!

What about using [name]Luca[/name] as a first name? It’s similar to your husband’s middle name but different enough that your son gets his own name. I’d also put it in the same name category as [name]Declan[/name] and perhaps [name]Evan[/name].

[name]Luca[/name] was my first thought as well!

I don’t think you’re going to like what I’m going to say, but it sounds like this means a lot to your husband. I agree that each person should have their own identity, and I know it’s not your favorite, but I think [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] is a good compromise. You’re still naming him after your husband, but he gets his own name.

What about [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] and call him [name]Luca[/name]?

My soon-to-be ex-husband was all about naming a son after himself. Drove me crazy. Luckily, we never got that far in our marriage, so it’s a non-issue now. But when it was an issue, I hated the idea. He too has a D first name, so he wanted the nickname to be DJ. What is with men??? LOL

I agree with the suggestion to name him [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Daniel[/name], or [name]Luke[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] honoring your husband while still allowing your son his own name.

Please don’t take your husband’s desire for his name to be utilized for his son lightly - male egos are so delicate (it’s just how they’re programmed) and if this means so much to him he must have a lot riding on it. I’m not suggesting that it will, but you wouldn’t want to ruin his ego and/or your marriage over this.

I am all for having connections with family through names BUT it is so so important that the child had their own identity! I like the idea of [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] or [name]Luca[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]. I still feel the child needs their own name though. It’d be lovely to have [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] as a double middle name, maybe suggest that to him. I don’t think you are being in the slightest bit unreasonable because this is your child too and together you have to agree on a name. You are comprising by suggesting it as a middle name and if he’s stuck on that one idea and won’t suggest another, I feel that’s a little selfish. Sorry! :S

Single middle name suggestions:
[name]Charles[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Charles[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Dane[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Dane[/name] [name]Bailey[/name]
[name]Zane[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Zane[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Kane[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Kane[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Liam[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Liam[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Riley[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Riley[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Riley[/name] [name]Luke[/name]
[name]Riley[/name] [name]Luca[/name]
[name]Riley[/name] [name]Dane[/name]
[name]Felix[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Felix[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Miles[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Miles[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Ethan[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Ethan[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Samson[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Samson[/name] [name]Luke[/name]
[name]Eli[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Eli[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Caleb[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Caleb[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Justin[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Justin[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Levi[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Levi[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]

Double middle name suggestions:
[name]Charles[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] or [name]Charlie[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Dane[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Bailey[/name]
[name]Zane[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Kane[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Liam[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Riley[/name] [name]Luca[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Riley[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Riley[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Luke[/name]
[name]Felix[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Felix[/name] [name]Luca[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Miles[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Miles[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Ethan[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Ethan[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Samson[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Luke[/name]
[name]Samson[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Eli[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Eli[/name] [name]Luke[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Caleb[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Caleb[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Justin[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Justin[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]
[name]Levi[/name] [name]Lucas[/name] [name]Daniel[/name]
[name]Levi[/name] [name]Daniel[/name] [name]Lucas[/name]

Best Wishes x

My husband has his heart set on naming our son (if we have a boy) after his father and mn after himself - [name]Samuel[/name] [name]James[/name]. I think it’s a nice name, but there’s no way it’s ever going to happen! I’m hoping we have a girl so we can avoid this argument (and the circumcision argument…).

I, personally, have always found the idea of naming your child after yourself a little tacky (so I’m on your side! haha). Seeing as though this seems to mean so much to him–I’d approach this delicately. But you should definitely get a say in this. It’s your child, too!

I like the suggestion of using either Daniel or Lucas as the middle and picking a first name you both love. Or perhaps you can use a name similar enough to his. For example:

Instead of Daniel - Dane or Niel
Instead of Lucas - Luca or Lucian

You mentioned he liked Alexander and you like Evan, so why not [name]Evander[/name]!!! What a perfect compromise. Dreambelievelove also has some great suggestions.

Combos:
Evander Lucian
Xander Lucas
Dane Evander Lucas
Evander Dane