Lila... as in the "Lil" part of Lilly, or Lilith

What is the correct spelling for [name]LIL[/name]-ah? as in [name]Lilly[/name], [name]Lilith[/name], [name]Lillian[/name]…

It’s driving me crazy! I really love this name, and I see [name]Lila[/name], and [name]Lilah[/name], all over the boards being pronounced as “Lie-la” or “[name]Ly[/name]-la” or “[name]Lay[/name]-la” or “[name]Lee[/name]-la”… Seriously, wouldn’t those other names be spelled [name]Lyla[/name], [name]Layla[/name], [name]Leila[/name], and [name]Leela[/name]? Leaving [name]Lila[/name] or [name]Lilah[/name] to be said as [name]LIL[/name]-ah? I guess I can see the “[name]Ly[/name]-la” spelling because of the word [name]Lilac[/name]… but the rest?

Also, is the sound “[name]LIL[/name]” just not flattering to most peoples ears? I never hear of anyone using this pronunciation. A lot of people love [name]Willa[/name], so whats up with [name]Lila[/name]? (Speaking of [name]Willa[/name], would it be [name]Lilla[/name]??)

I’ve never known a [name]Lila[/name] pronounced as “lil ah”, only “lie lah” and I prefer the accepted sound over the one that rhymes with willa, “lie lah” sounds a lot prettier to my ears.

As far as I’ve ever known, [name]Lila[/name] is pronounced “LIE-luh.” I doesn’t make sense, and your explanations are valid, but that’s just how it is! So yes, I think if you want it to have the same sound as [name]Lilith[/name] or [name]Lily[/name], you’d have to spell it [name]Lilla[/name], which seems sort of weird and made up.

If you want a pedantic explanation, here’s all my linguistic training spilling out : D.

[name]Lila/name makes sense. Look at [name]Delilah[/name]. English spelling is weird. If the fact that [name]Lily[/name] has the sound you want on the i is weird to you, read further and I have a sentence on that below. But [name]Lily[/name] is the oddball here, not [name]Lila[/name], and this is probably why the spelling [name]Lilly[/name] (and for that matter [name]Lillie[/name]) exists as a back-up.

I feel your pain somewhat. I am annoyed that the prn [name]Myla[/name] can’t be gotten from [name]Mila[/name] (Mee-la), because [name]Mila[/name] Kunis uses an Eastern European prn and has popularized the name that way. But such is life, and [name]Lila[/name] isn’t [name]Lilla[/name] for different reasons than this.

i by itself can in fact say the long sound “eye” IF it is the last sound in a syllable. In the spelling [name]Lila[/name], there is nothing in the spelling to tell us to stop, and so we break between the i and the l, leaving i by itself, with the long sound (the spelling doesn’t determine the syllables, but rather the other way around, but the spelling often gives us a clue).

We see this all the time in words like bicycle (bi cyc le, likewise the y makes a short sound because the c closes the syllable), binary, dinosaur, dioxide, really just anything with the prefixes bi and di. In words like limousine or little, the i is short because the syllable includes the following consonant (lim ou sine, litt le).

For the same reasons, [name]Leela[/name] and [name]Layla[/name] for [name]Lila/name doesn’t really make sense, and I’ve actually never seen those suggested! I have seen occasional posts that people like [name]Lilah[/name] or [name]Lyla[/name] or [name]Lylah[/name] over [name]Lila[/name] because it seems to make the long i sound stricter. I don’t really agree, because [name]Lila[/name] is in fact following English spelling rules, but it is probably a borrow from [name]Delilah[/name] and [name]Myla[/name], where it does in fact seem to have that effect.

In our spelling system, l is a frequent doubler when it is at the end of a syllable with a short vowel (f and s are the two other letters like this). Look at all, taller, silly, etc (and for f and s, off, cuff, riff, mess, lesser, crass, etc.).

There are exceptions of course, but this is the general rule. [name]Lily[/name] is an exception to the spelling rule, but it’s not breaking the syllable rule ([name]Lil[/name] y). If it weren’t for habit of saying [name]Lily[/name] as a language the way we say it, Lie-lee would be a completely reasonable guess at the prn. [name]Lilly[/name] or [name]Lillie[/name] is following the spelling rule.

This is why the pp is right, for the prn you like, [name]Lilla[/name] makes sense.

What else…gila monster, like the lizard, is another exception (hee-la), but that’s because it’s borrowed from Spanish (we also don’t pronounce g like h regularly : D ).

Good luck!

I have also seen the spelling [name]Lila[/name] as a variation for the spelling of [name]Layla[/name]. I get [name]Leila[/name], [name]Laila[/name] (even though this seems more like ‘[name]Ly[/name]-la’ to me),
[name]Laela[/name]…but how do you get the first ‘a’ sound in [name]Layla[/name] from just the ‘i’ in [name]Lila[/name]??
Anyway, I understand where you are coming from, but just one example of something similar is how [name]Anna[/name] is usually pr. ‘[name]Ann[/name]-ah’ whereas spelled [name]Ana[/name] is usually pr. ‘Ahn-ah’. A double consonant put together this way can completely change how a name is perceived/pronounced.
[name]Lilla[/name]/Lillah looks exactly like it should be pronounced ‘[name]Lil[/name]-ah’ to me; definitely not ‘[name]Ly[/name]-lah’.

Everything Jesba said is right. She got there before I got there.

As she said, it’s pronounced [name]Lila[/name] like in [name]Delilah[/name]. If you want it pronounced [name]Lil[/name]-uh then I would spell it [name]Lilla[/name]. Or use a longer form of [name]Lily[/name] and nickname her [name]Lilla[/name]. Ex – [name]Lillian[/name] nn [name]Lilla[/name], [name]Liliana[/name] nn [name]Lilla[/name].

I love [name]Lilla[/name]/Lillah, I know a young girl with this name, and it’s prn like [name]Willa[/name]. It’s actually an extremely rare, legitimate name. I’d go with [name]Lilla[/name]:slight_smile:

I [name]LOVE[/name] he name [name]Lila[/name]! I am pregnant now and it is the name that I am currently considering for my baby. I agree with you - it’s pronounced ly-la or lie-la. My only hesitation with this name is that recently, I am seeing it all over these boards. I worry that it’s now becoming TOO popular.

When I was little and read the Sweet [name]Valley[/name] High books I misread [name]Jessica[/name]'s friend [name]Lila[/name]'s name as Lill-uh and I loved it! It was quite awhile before I learned it was Lie-luh and I was very disappointed!! Good luck!

Jesba, Thank you! :smiley: /virtual hug.

Okay so i now offically know how to spell [name]Lilla[/name]. :heart:

My daughter is named Lillah. As far as I have seen, there are only 2 accepted spellings of the name: [name]Lilla[/name] or Lillah. My husband chose the Lillah spelling for our daughter since I found the name.

[name]Lilia[/name] is the closest I can think of. I met a baby [name]Lilia[/name]. It’s pretty in real life, too!

Thanks everyone. :slight_smile: [name]Plum[/name] and Periodt, this isn’t really my top choice, it just drives me crazy. :stuck_out_tongue: lol :slight_smile: I don’t really have a top choice for a girl yet. I thought I did, and then I found out that its gone mega popular in the last year. LOL :stuck_out_tongue: