Middle name John?

Not expecting or planning children anytime soon, just got this on the brain.

[name_f]My[/name_f] late father was [name_m]John[/name_m]. Want to use it as a middle if I have a son in the future.

[name_f]My[/name_f] last name ends in -ley so would prefer no lee/leigh/leigh names if possible :slight_smile: I also love Irish names, we’re a proud Irish American family on my father’s side with a tradition of such. Problem is, a lot have been used already ([name_u]Sean[/name_u], [name_m]Cedric[/name_m], [name_m]Seamus[/name_m], etc). I also like nature names but having a hard time finding one that works with [name_m]John[/name_m].

Here’s what I’ve come up with so far (and a good idea of the kinds of names I like):

[name_m]Simon[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Colin[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Ewan[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] (I love [name_m]Eoin[/name_m] but worried it would be hard to pronounce— I don’t like [name_m]Ian[/name_m])
[name_u]Asher[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Alasdair[/name_m] “[name_u]Ali[/name_u]” [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Zander[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Aran[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] (ARE-un, not [name_m]Aaron[/name_m], for the [name_m]Aran[/name_m] Islands)

Final note is I’m not worried about possible sibling names as I’m probably gonna be one and done if I have kids— love kids, just not sure of my own. I know, I know, I just like to be prepared though! :blush: thanks so much in advance.

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Rafferty [name_m]John[/name_m] came to mind :smile: or maybe
[name_u]Finlay[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m]

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I love [name_u]Finlay[/name_u]/Finley. Unfortunately my last name rhymes with it :confused:

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I like [name_u]Connor[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m] too.

Ooh my partner and I have strong Irish heritage too so I collect Irish names! Both our fathers also have the middle name [name_m]John[/name_m] :joy: some of my faves…

Rowan/Roan (nature name)
[name_m]Ruan[/name_m] (rou-ahn)
[name_u]Rian[/name_u] (ree-ahn)
[name_u]Ryan[/name_u]
[name_m]Lorcan[/name_m]
[name_u]Owen[/name_u]
[name_m]Bowen[/name_m]
[name_m]Ivo[/name_m]/Ivor (another nature name)

Love [name_m]Aran[/name_m]! Could also have the nn [name_u]Ari[/name_u] :slight_smile:

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I love the name [name_u]Rowan[/name_u]! Hadn’t thought about that as an option before. Also love [name_m]Ronan[/name_m] which is a little less popular I think.

[name_u]Ari[/name_u] is great as a nickname for [name_m]Aran[/name_m]— would totally use that if we didn’t have a close [name_u]Ari[/name_u] already :wink: it’s their chosen name too, not their birth name, so I’ve teased them lovingly for “stealing it” before. I’ve also thought about AJ for Aran John.

I have the first name [name_u]Ira[/name_u] paired with [name_m]John[/name_m]- [name_u]Ira[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m].

I do like [name_m]Simon[/name_m] and [name_m]Ewan[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m], as well as [name_m]Alasdair[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]. I like @elleplume’s suggestion of [name_u]Rowan[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m]! (I’m a little sad [name_m]Cedric[/name_m] and [name_m]Seamus[/name_m] have been used already- such lovely names!)

Finnegan [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_u]Ezra[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m]

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Thank you, Vanilla. [name_f]My[/name_f] paternal grandfather was also [name_m]John[/name_m]. As is my brother (which is why I’m not considering [name_m]John[/name_m] for a first name at all, I want to save it for him in case he wants a [name_m]John[/name_m] IV, plus my ex boyfriend is ALSO [name_m]John[/name_m]…)

I like the name [name_m]Adam[/name_m], but that is also already in the family!

To contextualize, my very close knit family is enormous… my dad was one of eleven siblings, all had kids (most had three or more of them) and most of my cousins are married with kids… this is my main issue :laughing:

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I love [name_m]Ewan[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m], [name_u]Asher[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m] and [name_m]Alasdair[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]

Isaac [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Finnian[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Cormac[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_u]Rory[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Patrick[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Teague[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_u]Murphy[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m]

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THis is super cool :wink: [name_u]Love[/name_u]!

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Hi there.

You and I are a lot alike! I love kids (have been a nanny for 17 years), but I just don’t know about having my own. However, I’ve been obsessed w/having a plan for what to name one anyway since I was about twelve. :joy: Also, my dh is from a large proud Irish American family, where a ton of great Irish names have been taken by his siblings already. And I also want to use my late dad, [name_m]David[/name_m]’s, name for a mn for a boy. When it comes to such a special mn, I honestly wouldn’t worry too much about fn/mn flow. [name_m]Just[/name_m] pick a fn you love.

Here are my thoughts on your list so far:

Simon [name_m]John[/name_m]-This is adorable. [name_m]Simon[/name_m] is smart, witty, quirky, handsome, classic, simple & not terribly popular. [name_m]Simon[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] sounds very nice.

Colin [name_m]John[/name_m]-it’s a bit rhyme-y, but like I said, not big deal since [name_m]John[/name_m] is so special as a mn. [name_m]Colin[/name_m] is nice. Simple for Americans, but clearly Irish. Sporty, smart & just a good solid name. I kind of prefer [name_m]Cullen[/name_m], since it’s a bit interesting, but also maybe more complicated.

Ewan [name_m]John[/name_m]-[name_m]Ewan[/name_m] is my #1 pick for a boy, & I don’t see him wavering anytime soon. [name_m]Eoin[/name_m] would probably be a headache, I agree. [name_m]Ewan[/name_m] is just beautiful, but in manly way! It’s super uncommon too. I’m not sure how it hasn’t caught on yet, but it’s not even in the top 1000 in the U.S.

Asher [name_m]John[/name_m]-[name_u]Asher[/name_u] is a great name. It sounds outdoorsy & kind of rugged, but soft & gentle at the same time. It’s a little bit more popular, but not super over done I don’t think. [name_u]Asher[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m] flows great.

Alasdair [name_m]John[/name_m]-I think that this spelling will be tricky for Americans, but not a deal breaker. A lot of my little Irish named nephews have kind of trickier names, but it’s totally worth it. [name_u]Ali[/name_u] is kind of popular for girls though ([name_u]Allie[/name_u], usually), so I don’t know. I guess it’d be okay for a boy. [name_m]Alasdair[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] sounds perfect, & [name_m]Alasdair[/name_m] is dashing.

Zander [name_m]John[/name_m]-Meh, I don’t love this one. It seems a tad too modern for my tastes. I’d be way more for [name_m]Alexander[/name_m] nn [name_m]Xander[/name_m] personally.

Aran [name_m]John[/name_m]-This will definitely get mispronounced & misspelled, I’d imagine. Although I love the idea of the nn [name_u]Ari[/name_u]. :heart_eyes:

Here are a few more ideas that you may like:

Adrian [name_m]John[/name_m]

Atlas [name_m]John[/name_m]

Brennan [name_m]John[/name_m]

Cillian [name_m]John[/name_m]

Ciaran [name_m]John[/name_m]

Casey [name_m]John[/name_m]

Desmond [name_m]John[/name_m]

Eamon [name_m]John[/name_m]

Finnian [name_m]John[/name_m]

Gareth [name_m]John[/name_m]

Koa [name_m]John[/name_m]-a nature name!

Lachlan [name_m]John[/name_m]

Laurence [name_m]John[/name_m]

Malachy [name_m]John[/name_m]

Nolan [name_m]John[/name_m]

Niall [name_m]John[/name_m]

Patrick [name_m]John[/name_m]

Rafferty [name_m]John[/name_m]

River [name_m]John[/name_m]-that works, right?

Silas [name_m]John[/name_m]

Theodore [name_m]John[/name_m]

Tristan [name_m]John[/name_m]

Winston [name_m]John[/name_m]

Wilder [name_m]John[/name_m]

Hope this helps. :slight_smile:

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Thanks!! I actually am a huge fan of Theo or Theodore— though I prefer Theo by itself— it’s been on and off my list for years.

Also love Cillian but prefer it spelled Killian… but that has “Kill” in it… :unamused:

River is fun! And it goes well with John. Definitely worth considering :slight_smile: I’m more likely to use it as a middle though.

I agree that [name_u]Asher[/name_u] is a bit trendy right now, what I’m really after is the nickname [name_u]Ash[/name_u], but I don’t love [name_u]Ashton[/name_u] or [name_u]Ashley[/name_u]. Are there alternatives?

I feel like you could do [name_m]Atticus[/name_m] nn [name_u]Ash[/name_u]. It’s a little more of a stretch, & I kind of see [name_m]Atticus[/name_m] becoming more & more popular too. Cool name though none the less.

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Omg I actually love [name_m]Atticus[/name_m] nn [name_u]Ash[/name_u]! To Kill A Mockingbird was my dad’s favorite book, so it would also honor him in an extra way. I agree it’s a bit of a stretch, but no more than [name_m]Dick[/name_m] for [name_m]Richard[/name_m] or [name_f]Peg[/name_f] for [name_f]Margaret[/name_f]…

Narrowing the list! So far my favorites are:

Simon [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Atticus[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] “[name_u]Ash[/name_u]”
[name_m]Aran[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] (also honors an [name_u]Ari[/name_u] and an [name_f]Erin[/name_f])
[name_u]Ashby[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m] “[name_u]Ash[/name_u]”

Ideas/thoughts?

Patrick. Or [name_u]Declan[/name_u], [name_u]Michael[/name_u], [name_m]Nicholas[/name_m], [name_u]Timothy[/name_u]…

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EJK— [name_u]Declan[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m] is very nice (as are the others but they’re all already in the family)! It inspired me to look up names similar to it— [name_m]Cashel[/name_m], [name_m]Kellan[/name_m], [name_u]Kieran[/name_u], [name_m]Torin[/name_m], [name_m]Lucan[/name_m]… this isn’t narrowing things down any :laughing: enjoying myself though!

Declan would be a good choice I think. Or [name_m]Ewan[/name_m], [name_u]Rory[/name_u], [name_u]Rowan[/name_u]. [name_m]Simon[/name_m] and [name_m]Alastair[/name_m] are excellent names, but not particularly Irish. What about [name_m]Brendan[/name_m]?

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Brendan’s a close cousin :grimacing: otherwise, I do like it! Problems of having a huge family!

If I decided to go the Irish route, [name_u]Rowan[/name_u]/Ronan and [name_m]Aran[/name_m] are currently very much my top choices. [name_m]Simon[/name_m] is Biblical which would also fit into family naming tradition, so I’m still very okay with it not being super Irish. I also really love the nicknames [name_u]Ash[/name_u] and [name_u]Theo[/name_u] even if they’re not super Irish. I think that’s my short list for the time being :blush: so:

Simon [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_u]Ashby[/name_u]/Asher/Ashland [name_m]John[/name_m] “[name_u]Ash[/name_u]”
[name_u]Theo[/name_u](dore) [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Aran[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_u]Rowan[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m]
[name_m]Ronan[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m]

Alasdair [name_m]John[/name_m] is lovely.

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