On the topic of short vs. medium vs. long lists! My "data findings" 🌈

Hello, friends! :potted_plant:

I am coming at you with a very longwinded topic today on a topic that has interested me for a while! How much do we actually think about our different lists? Well, I’m curious - and have a constant fear that I’m doing things wrong or differently from other berries - so I figured I’d poll it myself. Alternate title for today, how many mistakes can [name_f]Mollie[/name_f] make in one topic? :rofl:

What constitutes a short list versus a long list? Is there even such a thing as a medium list? On average, most berries have a short list of all their top favorite names; this list is most likely to be 5–10 names long. Most berries do not keep a medium-length list; however, those that do usually have 15–25 or 40+ names on said medium-length list. There is an equal number of Nameberry users that have 100+ names on their long list, as there are users who don’t keep a count of how many names are on their long list. A third of that amount have 55–75 names on their long list, the same statistically speaking as the number of users that have 75–100 names on their long list. Out of all of the berries that voted, every one of them keeps a long list.

Now that we know the number of names on the average berries list(s), what type of names are on said lists?

I’m always confused about what constitutes a short list, and now that I know (statistically speaking) that a short list doesn’t technically have to be small (thank you to the 60% of berries who don’t actually agree that a short list has to be tiny), I might just be more lost. How do I narrow this down, you guys? Is it only my ultimate favorites? What about the names I’ve just started liking in the last few weeks? Oh goodness, here comes the spiral! Well, a whopping 73% of berries include both of their all-time favorites and current favorites on their shortest list. [name_m]Just[/name_m] over 10% of berries update their short list with their current favorites, and between the remaining 16% of users, there is an even split of berries who only include all-time favorites, as there are those who include only names both their partner and them like. I guess I was following this too. Phew!

Finally, I’ve figured out what a short list actually is! But here comes the ā€œmediumā€ list, which I always feel I have to write in quotes because what does medium really mean? It’s such a fine line for me. [name_f]Do[/name_f] I include all-time favorites? Is this where I put all of my current favorites? What about names I only like in the middle spot (Chrysanthemum, that’s you)? [name_f]Fear[/name_f] not, [name_f]Mollie[/name_f], we have an answer! Although more than half of the berries I polled do not have a ā€œmediumā€ list, it seems those that do are mostly in agreement! Of the berries who do keep a ā€œmediumā€ list, nearly 80% of them agree that this list includes their all-time favorites and their current favorites. 15% of them say their medium list is the names they’ve liked for a long time (that aren’t all-time favorites), and 5% of them say their medium list consists of their favorite names at the moment. Over a half of the berries include both guilty pleasure and middle-only names on this list.

And finally, we are on to the standard long list that I think every namenerd has compiled at least once in their life! I think this one might be a little more self-explanatory, so I did not ask too many questions about the long list. I do apologize! Surprisingly, I found that over 40% of berries include every name that they have ever liked in their long list (yes, every name in their whole life!) Nearly a fourth of them include every name they love—with guilty pleasures—on their long list; less than a fifth include every name they currently like; and just 14% include every name they even sort of like! Nearly half of Nameberry users include family names on their lists, but only in the circumstance that the name is one they already love and would use if it wasn’t a family name.

Now that we finally know what these short, medium, and long lists actually consist of, how do we know when it is actually time to update them? It happens like clockwork: I spend a lot of time on Nameberry, I feel really ā€œname-y,ā€ I reformat and update my lists (which can take hours to do), and then I don’t look at them for months. I was curious if this was a common experience, and it seems it might not be! A whopping 87% of Nameberry users update their lists whenever they have a change in their names (whether it be adopting a new style, having new favorites, or maybe changing the middle name in a combo). [name_m]Just[/name_m] 5% of users update their lists daily, the same amount of users who update their lists every week. Only 3% of berries update their lists every six months, the longest increment that got any votes.

And in the only statistic that got an even 100%, every single user includes the names on their short list on their long list!

Let this be a guide, not a rulebook! Everyone thinks of their lists differently, and that is totally okay and a huge part of the fun of naming. I just know I can often feel lost, so I thought this might be a fun test to run! And of course, I only really had 37 users vote at the time I compiled this data, so it is likely to be inaccurate and skewed, but that is okay. This is not a science fair!

For those who are interested, here is the ā€œraw dataā€ very poorly compiled, because as I said before, I am not a scientist or a data analyst :laughing:

35 BERRIES VOTED…

54% of Berries keep only a short and long list.

34% of Berries keep a short, medium, and long list.

9% of Berries keep more than a short, medium, and long list.

3% of Berries keep only a short list.

And one [name_f]Berry[/name_f] responded saying they only keep a long list.

37 BERRIES VOTED…

60% of Berries say their short list doesn’t have anything to do with being short, it’s just their favorites.

19% say that they have 5-10 names on their short list.

8% say they have 10-15 names on their short list.

8% say they have 25+ names on their short list.

5% say they have 5 names on their short list.

35 BERRIES VOTED…

54% of Berries do not keep a ā€œmediumā€ list.

20% of Berries have 15-25 names on their medium list.

17% of Berries have 40+ names on their medium list.

9% of Berries have 25-40 names on their medium list.

36 BERRIES VOTED…

33% of Berries have 100+ names on their long list.

33% of Berries don’t keep any sort of count of the amount of names on their long list.

11% of Berries have 55-75 names on their long list.

11% of Berries have 75-100 names on their long list.

6% have 40-55 names on their long list.

3% have 15-25 names on their long list.

3% have 25-40 names on their long list.

0% of Berries do not have a long list.

37 BERRIES VOTED…

73% said their short list is a mix of all-time and current favorites.

11% said their short list is only their current favorites.

8% said their short list is only their all-time favorites.

8% said their short list is names their partner and them like.

36 BERRIES VOTED…

67% said their short list is exclusive names they’d use as first names.

17% said their short list is first and ā€œmiddle onlyā€ names.

16% said they have GP and ā€œmiddle onlyā€ names on their short list.

35 BERRIES VOTED…

60% do not keep a medium list.

31% have a mix of all-time favorites and current favorites on their medium list.

6% have names they’ve liked for a long time, but aren’t their top favorites on their medium list.

3% have their favorite names at the moment that aren’t all-time favorites.

21 BERRIES VOTED…

62% of them have GP and middle only names on their medium list.

24% don’t have either on their medium list.

14% have GP names on their medium list.

37 BERRIES VOTED…

43% include every name they have ever liked in their whole life on their long list.

24% include every name they love (even GPs) on their long list.

19% include every name they currently like.

14% include every name they even sort-of like.

37 BERRIES VOTED…

87% of Berries update their lists whenever they have a change in names,

5% of Berries update their list every day.

5% of Berries update their list every week.

3% of Berries update their list every six months.

37 BERRIES VOTED…

49% of Berries include family names on their lists, but only if they would use them even if they weren’t family names

33% do a mix of these things

8% of Berries keep family names separate

5% include family names in their medium/long list.

5% include family names on their short list.

35 BERRIES VOTED…

And 100% of them include the names on their short list in their long list.

Further replies…

  • One berry keeps track of their changing favorites multiple times a week, but doesn’t edit their list more than a few times a year. Their changing preferences instead become new lists or spreadsheets.
  • One berry says their medium list includes every name they like, but don’t love, however could love if they had a partner who loved the name.
  • One berry says they only have a long list.
  • One berry says their short list is for names they would realistically use, their medium list is for names they’d use under specific circumstances, and their long list is for names they sort of like or have liked in the past.
  • One berry says they have an ultra short list that is their top five of names, names that if they were in a coma and you needed to name their baby, you could pick off of the list and they’d be fine. Their short list is The List (trademark), which contains their top five, but also names they’d consider for a real child (with the mentality of ā€œbaby doesn’t feel like my top 1, so let’s turn to the short listā€ or ā€œnames I’d propose to a partner at firstā€). Their medium list is The list (lowercase common noun), which is all the names they really enjoy, are more likely to be used as middles, and some they love but wouldn’t use IRL, names of ā€œmy partner hates all my names/none of the names I like work as a middle, let’s broaden the search.ā€ And finally, their long list is every name they like, and they go to this list if someone on NB asks for suggestions or if they’re looking for a name with certain initials.
  • One berry says their medium list is all the names that are their current favorites, where their short list has a few current favorites, but more forever favorites. Their medium list changes a lot more.
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me :person_facepalming:


Anyway, this was a fascinating read and thank you for compiling it!

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i love this, mollie! i love looking at statistics and this has reminded me to… update the list for maybe the third time this month *hides *

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my list is a 54 page longgoogle doc of all my favorite fn/mn combos… :see_no_evil:
love learning about the way other berries organize their names, thank you for this awesome info :smiley:

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This was quite interesting and enlightening to read, [name_f]Mollie[/name_f]! Thank you so much for your time and effort! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :yellow_heart: I was in shock when I realized that most Berries do not update their lists daily! I thought we all had at least one new name love come to us per day! It happens for me, at least! :joy: :sweat_smile:

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@Greyblue I’m glad you liked it :smiling_face: I tried compiling a list of every name I’ve liked, and it was too long, and quite frankly embarrassing :rofl:

@clair.de.lune The same thing for me! I really do need to update my short lists…I swapped some names on my ā€œmediumā€ list (the main one on my Listography) yesterday, so that’s pretty accurate, but still!! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

@dejectedpiglet No problem! I’m glad someone at least finds my jumbled thoughts a little useful :potted_plant: 54 pages is so long, what a great collection! I’ve been meaning to write my favorite combos down/create go-to combos for my list, but I just haven’t yet.

@mellona I definitely do have new name loves that come to me daily/weekly (a fact proven by my running note since the 16th titled ā€œEvery Name I Started To Like Todayā€ that already has 18 names :laughing: I’m glad you liked it, [name_m]Edmund[/name_m]!

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this was so interesting, thank you for putting this together! I am in that 3% that almost never updates my uc because I can never decide what types of names I should include in it, like my all time favorites, my current likes, guilty pleasures or like you mentioned, only ones my partner and I would ever agree on. Also I change likes frequently, so much so I deleted most of my lists and am jaded by most names at the moment :frowning: anyway this was a great analysis! :blush:

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I’m so glad you enjoyed it! :smiling_face: I usually use a mix of current favorites and all-time favorites, but it can really be anything. A lot of time my girls list is more of my current likes because they tend to switch more often. Some berries even have sections of ā€œall time favorites,ā€ ā€œcurrent loves,ā€ and ā€œguilty pleasures.ā€ I’m sure if you do decide to update it more often the Berries would love it, but definitely don’t feel pressured to do so :slightly_smiling_face: I myself usually update mine once a month!

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This is an interesting way to think of a top 5. I’ve never managed to narrow my list down that far and have it feel satisfactory but I’m definitely going to try and come up with a top 5 ā€œEmergency Listā€ now. Maybe thinking about it in these terms will make it clearer which ones I feel strongest about.

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[name_m]Super[/name_m] interesting findings [name_f]Millie[/name_f], thanks for sharing!
I have a long list of about 70 names, and within that list my top 20 (not exactly a short list, but shorter!) are bolded.
However, I suppose what I above referred to as my long list should perhaps be called a medium list, because I have many other lists of all my favourite names on a theme ( word names, nature names, Spanish names, etc…) Off those lists, I like all names, but only my top favourites are added to my long/should be called medium list. Hopefully that made sense :rofl:

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@sammaegre I think I’m going to use this technique too! If I’m not mistaken, it was @lateaugust who replied with that description. I think it’s brilliant!

@OctaviaMay That makes so much sense, honestly! I’m at the point where I’ve found myself liking a lot more names, but only circumstantially (for example - [name_f]Katinka[/name_f], but only as a sister for Vision), so I definitely get it! I’m glad you enjoyed!

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Haha yep that was me!

There used to be a bandwagon on NB that was like ā€œif I were in a coma and you had to name my baby what would you choose?ā€ And I think it’s sort of apt (even though it sounds so dark).

I may choose a name that is not on my ultra short list/top 5 (okay I’ll be honest it’s often more like 3-6) if it suits the baby better or my partner likes it. But these are the names I don’t flounder on. I wouldn’t be unhappy if I used any of them.

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Sorry for the typo on your name by the way, lol :rofl: Typing on mobile with autocorrect is so annoying! Now gets me thinking if you would make a good Millie though… I’ve had Millicent nn Millie on my mind recently! She’d be good for your list- maybe fitting in with your other clunky girls like Hildegard and Agatha! Haha- this would only happen on Nameberry :laughing:

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No worries! :laughing: [name_f]Millicent[/name_f] ā€œMillieā€ was on my list for a bit, I think paired with [name_f]Lucinda[/name_f] in a set - I’m not sure! She does fit quite well with Hildegard!!!

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