Stalemate-I can't have another nameless child!

So, I recently found out the baby number 2 is a little boy! Great, I will have one of each. Accept I was so convinced we were team pink again, I had only considered girl names.

Our dd is [name_f]Emilia[/name_f] [name_f]Rose[/name_f] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] (last name start with C)
Nn [name_f]Millie[/name_f]
Both [name_f]Rose[/name_f] and [name_u]Francis[/name_u] are family names. Daddy picked her name, which I liked, but wasn’t in love with hence why she was nameless for a while. I was so pleased to have a girl I didn’t fight it. However, this time gloves are off, and I am not caving, and neither is hubby…alas we must find a name we both like.

Middle names will be either [name_m]Thomas[/name_m], [name_m]John[/name_m] or [name_m]Edward[/name_m] then [name_u]Francis[/name_u] and last name with C.

I like:

[name_m]Thomas[/name_m] nn tommy
[name_m]John[/name_m] nn johnny
[name_m]Jasper[/name_m]
[name_m]Lawson[/name_m]
[name_m]Henry[/name_m]
[name_u]Teddy[/name_u]
Hubby hates them all…hates!

Hubby likes
[name_m]Zack[/name_m]…or [name_m]Zackary[/name_m]. I hate it. I don’t like the end of c sound before our last name starting with the same sound

We can’t have any L names…

Please please please help us!!! Thank you!

[name_f]Emilia[/name_f] “[name_f]Millie[/name_f]” and…

[name_m]Arthur[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C “[name_m]Artie[/name_m]”
[name_m]Archer[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C “[name_m]Archie[/name_m]”
[name_u]August[/name_u] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C “[name_u]Gus[/name_u]”
[name_m]Asher[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Bennett[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Beckett[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Casper[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Callum[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Caleb[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Dawson[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Dominic[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] “[name_u]Nico[/name_u]”
[name_m]Damien[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Edmund[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C “[name_u]Teddy[/name_u]”
[name_m]Eamon[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_u]Elliot[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_u]Everett[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Evander[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Finnian[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C “[name_u]Finn[/name_u]”
[name_m]Graham[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C “[name_u]Gray[/name_u]”
[name_m]Julian[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_u]Jude[/name_u] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Josiah[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Killian[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Leon[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_u]Luca[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Lucian[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Miles[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Marcus[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Nathaniel[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C “[name_m]Nate[/name_m]”
[name_u]Noel[/name_u] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Oliver[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_u]Owen[/name_u] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Oscar[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_u]Sawyer[/name_u] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Soren[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Sebastian[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Tobias[/name_m] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C
[name_m]Theodore[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C “[name_u]Teddy[/name_u]”
[name_m]Xavier[/name_m] [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] C

Your styles aren’t too far off. [name_m]How[/name_m] about:

[name_m]Nathaniel[/name_m]
[name_m]Nathan[/name_m]
[name_m]Gabriel[/name_m]
[name_m]Nicholas[/name_m]
[name_m]Levi[/name_m]
[name_m]Jack[/name_m]
[name_m]William[/name_m]
[name_u]James[/name_u]
[name_m]Lucas[/name_m]
[name_m]Alexander[/name_m]

Thank you,
I have literally read out every name, as I like many of them…hubby says no!
I have never known anyone to only like one name. Maybe I’m a bit too name obsessed so like too many!

Any other suggestions grately appreciated.

Surely he can’t only like one name! I feel that’s rather unfair on you… :confused:

What about names like [name_u]Bentley[/name_u], [name_u]Harley[/name_u], or [name_u]Hadley[/name_u]… they have the same flow as [name_m]Zachary[/name_m] without the harsh “c” sound… maybe something to explore.

I wish you luck, and hope you get somewhere :slight_smile:

Someone on another thread mentioned a baby name app where you can swipe yes or no on names and see what you match on. That might be a place to start. Also if your only objection to [name_m]Zachary[/name_m] is the K sound with your last name, I think you would usually use the full [name_m]Zachary[/name_m] when saying the last name so it wouldn’t be a problem. But it does seem like he should be more flexible…

[name_m]Adrian[/name_m]
[name_u]Elias[/name_u]
[name_m]Elijah[/name_m]
[name_m]Ethan[/name_m]
[name_m]Ezekiel[/name_m]
[name_m]Jackson[/name_m]
[name_u]Jameson[/name_u]
[name_m]Jason[/name_m]
[name_m]Leo[/name_m]
[name_u]Max[/name_u]
[name_m]Nolan[/name_m]
[name_m]Timothy[/name_m]
[name_m]Xander[/name_m]

Would you be happier with [name_m]Zechariah[/name_m]?

Or how about:

[name_m]William[/name_m]
[name_m]Oliver[/name_m]
[name_m]Benjamin[/name_m]
[name_m]Julian[/name_m]
[name_m]Samuel[/name_m]
[name_m]Felix[/name_m]
[name_m]Miles[/name_m]
[name_m]Nathaniel[/name_m]
[name_m]Nicholas[/name_m]
[name_m]Theodore[/name_m]
[name_m]Ethan[/name_m]
[name_u]Elliot[/name_u]

If your husband truly hates all your ideas, he really ought to give you more than one choice that he likes.

I think my husband only suggested three names during my last pregnancy and only liked one additional one that I’d suggested. As a name addict, it is rough to have so little to work with! The first name he suggested was a name I hated too: [name_m]Clement[/name_m]. I told him I would think about it, and so I sat with it for a week and we didn’t talk about other names for that period. And since I still couldn’t stomach it after a week, I vetoed it. Because you should BOTH get veto power. Your reason for vetoing his choice (repeating ‘c’ sounds) is really valid! I’d let the dust settle and then come back to the discussion with him.

That said, do you think your husband is set on [name_m]Zachary[/name_m] for a particular reason? Was there a [name_m]Zach[/name_m] he knew who he liked? [name_m]Zach[/name_m] is such an 80’s name to me that maybe he likes it because it was a familiar, cool kid name from his own childhood. Maybe you need to find a name that would’ve been around and cool in the 80’s? What about [name_m]Jeffrey[/name_m], [name_u]Ryan[/name_u], [name_m]Kieth[/name_m], or [name_u]Evan[/name_u]? Or movie characters or actors associated with the big hits of the 80s: [name_m]Ferris[/name_m], [name_m]Maverick[/name_m], [name_m]Harrison[/name_m], [name_m]Willis[/name_m], or [name_u]Rudy[/name_u]?

[name_m]Edward[/name_m]
[name_m]George[/name_m]
[name_m]Louis[/name_m]
[name_m]Hector[/name_m]
[name_m]Arthur[/name_m]
[name_m]Alec[/name_m]
[name_m]Troy[/name_m]
[name_m]Landon[/name_m]
[name_m]Leo[/name_m]
[name_m]Levi[/name_m]
[name_m]Stefan[/name_m]

If he picked your DDs name, he should give you a little more say this time around! I really like [name_m]Henry[/name_m]…what about [name_m]Benjamin[/name_m], [name_m]Samuel[/name_m], [name_m]Philip[/name_m]? Good luck, I am having a battle with my fiance over names for our little one too!

[name_m]Patrick[/name_m] [name_m]John[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u]?

This is hilarious because I went through this exact debate with my husband, who was dead set on [name_m]Zachary[/name_m]. I couldn’t stand the name! My compromise (because I’m the one who is willing to be open minded, he is just a yes or no - most of the time, no) was to use the nickname [name_m]Zeke[/name_m] instead of [name_m]Zach[/name_m]/[name_m]Zack[/name_m]. He said no. So I put my gloves on to come up with names that were more his style but that I could live with. It was taking so much fun out of the naming experience, and it’s already been a difficult pregnancy! He also didn’t want to find out the gender, so we had to pick both boy and girl names before I found out for myself, so that made the stress and the rush of it that much more intense…

All this to say! Some of the names on our list (as we seem to have similar taste to you and your husband) are as follows - whether they’re to your liking or not, maybe they will at least bring inspiration :slight_smile:

[name_m]Jonah[/name_m]
[name_m]Graham[/name_m]
[name_u]Chase[/name_u]
[name_m]Scott[/name_m]
[name_m]Colin[/name_m] (maybe not with a C last name)
[name_m]Frederick[/name_m] ([name_u]Freddie[/name_u] or [name_u]Ricky[/name_u] for short to eliminate hard CK sound)
[name_m]Vince[/name_m]/[name_m]Vincent[/name_m] ([name_u]Vinnie[/name_u])

We had many more we talked about (we seriously just sat and looked at the top 1000 at one point and narrowed it down from there) but I do think the middle names you choose should be of meaning to have the same feel and familial bond as [name_f]Emilia[/name_f] :slight_smile: I personally like [name_m]Graham[/name_m] or [name_m]Scott[/name_m] would make for a lovely sibset.

Good luck!!!

I think since you had very little say in your daughter’s name, then now it’s your husband’s turn to be gracious towards you! One person shouldn’t monopolize the naming process unless that was previously agreed upon, haha.

I find it hard to believe that he hates so many names - he could just be trying to make [name_m]Zachary[/name_m] the only option by vetoing everything else! Or maybe he just really can’t stand most names. Anyway, I definitely agree with everyone else that a compromise on his end is in order especially since you made one the first time around!

Have you asked him why exactly he likes [name_m]Zachary[/name_m]? Is it the three syllables? The ending in -y? The zippy Z? The sprightly one-syllable nickname?
If you discover the root behind his affection for [name_m]Zachary[/name_m], maybe you can find names that fall under the umbrella.

Here’s what I thought might work as a substitute:

[name_m]Maxwell[/name_m] / [name_u]Max[/name_u]
[name_u]Cody[/name_u]
[name_u]Jesse[/name_u]
[name_u]Charlie[/name_u]
[name_m]Quentin[/name_m] / [name_m]Quinton[/name_m]
[name_m]Jeremy[/name_m]
[name_m]Timothy[/name_m]
[name_m]Connor[/name_m] / [name_u]Connery[/name_u]
[name_u]Tristan[/name_u]
[name_m]Kevin[/name_m]

Thank you, again, your suggestion have been great but hubby isn’t moving. And I’m glad others have the same view as me when it comes to the naming of baby boy, and I’m not being pregnant and hormonal.

Apparently he just likes [name_m]Zack[/name_m]. He thinks it’s a nice name. He isn’t a fan of [name_m]Zachary[/name_m] so would call him [name_m]Zack[/name_m] but it was apparently compromising for me because of the end sound. [name_m]How[/name_m] kind of him!!

I do think he is a love one name kind of guy. With dd I made him read the top 2000 list, and was very excited when he announced he had a list of 4 names! All [name_f]Emilia[/name_f] spelt one way or another, so not really 4 names.

The thing is, I just really don’t like [name_m]Zack[/name_m]. Of [name_m]Zachary[/name_m].

I guess my no 1 choice of [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] nn tommy is due to my dad, who died before either of my babies so never saw his grandchildren. He was [name_m]Tom[/name_m], I understand hubby doesn’t like the name, and “naming a kid after someone won’t make them closer to them” as he said is true. I guess I just hoped that the special meaning of the name might mean he saw past this. Obviously not.

Thank you so much for the suggestions, if anything else that might be worth suggesting comes to mind please let me know.

Xx

Well, that’s just flat out NOT FAIR!!! I would tell him that you veto [name_m]Zack[/name_m]. You both have to approve the name. And if he can’t be more open minded, he may end up with a name he hates. As one of the parents (and the person gestating this child) you at least get equal say.

[name_m]Miles[/name_m]
[name_m]Theodore[/name_m] “[name_u]Theo[/name_u]”
[name_m]Sebastian[/name_m]
[name_u]Finn[/name_u]
[name_u]Brennan[/name_u]
[name_m]Caleb[/name_m]
[name_m]Milo[/name_m]
[name_m]Simon[/name_m]
[name_m]Julian[/name_m]
[name_u]Chandler[/name_u]
[name_m]Harrison[/name_m]
[name_u]Bellamy[/name_u]
Phinneus
[name_u]August[/name_u]/[name_m]Augustus[/name_m]

^^THIS

If he got to name your daughter, then you should have the right to name your son. And if you don’t like [name_m]Zack[/name_m], then please don’t use it. And if your surname starts with a hard C, then [name_m]Zack[/name_m] won’t sound nice at all. [name_m]Just[/name_m] for example if your name were [name_m]Connor[/name_m]. [name_m]Zack[/name_m] [name_m]Connor[/name_m] is really cumbersome to say. Have you mentioned this to him??

The fair thing, to me, if you want him to feel like he’s helping to pick the name, would be for you to come up with the 4 names you love best, then let him choose one of those.

Best of luck!

Have a list of 5-10 names YOU love at the hospital and let him choose from that. He chose your daughter’s name, you should be able to have a say in your son’s name. Whatever your son’s name ends up being,he will learn to like it eventually.

I think he is being very unfair - it’s not fair to provide one name and expect you to go with it, especially as he named your daughter. I agree with some other posters - give him a list of some names you like and ask him to rank them/choose a favourite, and also tell him he HAS to write down a list of, say 10, names he likes just so you can make progress. Tell him compromise is part of marriage, especially as you compromised with your daughter! Best of luck x

P.S For what it’s worth I think [name_m]Thomas[/name_m] nn [name_m]Tommy[/name_m] is far nicer than [name_m]Zack[/name_m], especially as you have a C- starting surname!

[name_u]August[/name_u] [name_m]Edward[/name_m] [name_u]Francis[/name_u] nn “[name_u]Gus[/name_u]” is an awesome suggestion!