The Quick Poll Thread! (Part 4)

Leila as a nod to Sheila?

  • I see the link, and I like it
  • I can not see the link, but Leila is a nice name
  • I can not see the link, and I do not like Leila
  • I see the link, but you can do better than Leila
  • I can see a link only if Leila is pronounced as Lee-la.

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Vote for usability and your opinion on the name! In between responses omitted because that’s where I am so they’re not helpful lmao

Moon (g)?
  • Usable
  • Unusable
  • I like it!
  • I like it in theory
  • I don’t like it
  • As a first
  • As a middle
  • As both/either

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Echo (g)?
  • Usable
  • Unusable
  • I like it!
  • I like it in theory
  • I don’t like it
  • As a first
  • As a middle
  • As both/either

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Whimsy (g)?
  • Usable
  • Unusable
  • I like it!
  • I like it in theory
  • I don’t like it
  • As a first
  • As a middle
  • As both/either

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Frost (b)?
  • Usable
  • Unusable
  • I like it!
  • I like it in theory
  • I don’t like it
  • As a first
  • As a middle
  • As both/either

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Anchor (b)?
  • Usable
  • Unusable
  • I like it!
  • I like it in theory
  • I don’t like it
  • As a first
  • As a middle
  • As both/either

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Quill (u)?
  • Usable
  • Unusable
  • I like it!
  • I like it in theory
  • I don’t like it
  • As a first
  • As a middle
  • As both/either

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  • Conrad Lewis
  • Dean Lewis
  • Spencer Lewis

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If I choose Celine, should I spell Celine like Celine or CĂ©line? I’m from a predominantly English speaking country, but I detest anglicizations of names.

  • Celine
  • CĂ©line

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Also, if anyone’s French, is Celine a legitimate spelling in France or is CĂ©line the truer form?

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Sister for Felicity Loveday and Amelie Florence?

  • Mabel
  • Tula
  • Phoebe
  • Xanthe
  • Grace
  • Annabel
  • Lillian
  • Pippin
  • Leonie
  • Leila
  • Zelie
  • Delilah

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Me too, and I frequently run into this here as a couple of very popular names on here (like, seemingly mentioned every third thread popular) are anglicizations. That said, I’m not French but personally I think Celine is totally okay!!

My own personal experience with a similar thing shapes my opinion: My middle name is SĂ©amus and the inclusion of the fada (accent) is very important to me, but legally the name is Seamus because official documents can be weird. My two cents? In the US at least (not sure if that’s where you’re from) sometimes removing an accent for legal paperwork can just save a lot of headache, as sadly a lot of systems aren’t set up to accommodate accents/etc. as well as they could/should be.

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Given that [name_f]Céline[/name_f] will not be pronounced the [name_u]French[/name_u] way in an English-speaking country and that you are not [name_u]French[/name_u] (I think?), the spelling without the accent is actually the more proper one in this case.
I do think it’s fun to put names with accents in the middle spot, though.

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I do have French Huguenot ancestry, but I realize that’s probably not what we’re looking for here haha.

Even if it’s not pronounced the French way, shouldn’t a name have its original spelling and just be pronounced differently in different countries? If I went with CĂ©line, I wouldn’t enforce the French pronunciation, I would just make sure it’s spelled right and let English-speaking people pronounce it differently in their accent.

Like Selene. Selene would generally be pronounced like “Suh-leen” in English-speaking countries, but in Greece and maybe many other countries, it’s more like “Seh-leen-ee.” Both are appropriate for different tongues, but the original spelling still remains.

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I actually think it’s the opposite, that if a variation exists that works within the language rules of the country you’re using it in, that variation should be picked over one that would be “mispronounced”. As Celine is a legit variation and the Ă© does not exist in the English language, to me, it’s more respectful to choose Celine than to mispronounce CĂ©line.

Not quite, no, haha. But say you were French and lived in the US, the accents are important in French because they change the pronunciation of the letter E, so to me, in this case it would make sense to choose CĂ©line, because when she’s in France, the accent would matter while it would be overlooked in the US because it doesn’t exist in English.
Or if you, a German citizen, were to choose KĂ€the for your daughter who will be raised in the UK. You’d want to keep the Ă€ because it significantly changes the spelling in Germany but it really doesn’t matter at all in the UK.

However, if a random British person were to choose KĂ€the for their child and pronounced it “Cathy”, that would seem odd to me because that’s really not the name and they don’t need the Ă€ because their child doesn’t have a German passport nor is spoked to in German.

Selene is different to me because it does not include any letters that don’t work in the English language. For languages where this would be a problem, I’m sure a variation exists.

I talked about this in more length here in case you want to see where I come from with this opinion: Séraphine or Seraphine - #2 by OpheliaFlora

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Great point! I may have to put Celine, or CĂ©line, on the backburner because I’m a bit conflicted since I really can be somewhat of a purist with name spellings, but then I also agree with your above statement that I would still be butchering the pronunciation if I went with CĂ©line and therefore falling into the very trap I was trying to avoid.

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I feel like I should explain my choice for [name_u]Echo[/name_u], I like it a lot in theory, but I associate it very strongly with the character on Mr. [name_m]Young[/name_m] (Canadian TV show)

Whoa I haven’t heard of that show in forever, I completely forgot there’s an Echo in it!

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Maybe it’s just me :joy:

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I I didn’t know that about the UK. I like that people just use nicknames instead of using a long name for their birth certificate. It’s interesting how there really is a different naming culture in different countries. I’m in Australia and I think it’s probably a mix of nicknames and longer names but probably more longer names. Thanks for all the info!

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This used to be a favorite of my brother’s, now I’m trying to remember if the characters ever made “echoing” jokes about Echo’s name!

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Knowing that Vojta is pronounced voy-ta (and really just concerned about the first syllable):

  • I guessed / knew this pronunciation and I imagine that native English speakers would do the same
  • I guessed / knew this pronunciation but I can see it causing confusion in an English speaking country
  • I guessed a different pronunciation, or I would not know how to pronounce this name if I saw the spelling

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Does the name Vojta work in the context of a language where the J is always pronounced as “dzh” ? The phonetic name “voy-ta” works just fine but the spelling might cause confusion.

  • It would be fine to use / easy to correct
  • Only if this is not the primary language (e.g. something spoken only with relatives, in a school immersion program etc)
  • This would deter me from using the name

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I think it depends whether you are allowed to use accent marks on the birth certificate where you live. I’m in the US, and two of my girls have names that should have an accent mark, but we are not able to use them for their birth certificates. Noemi should be NoemĂ­ and Belen should be BelĂ©n. You could always put Celine on the birth certificate, but teach her that there should be an accent on the first e.

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Oh, are you putting the emphasis on the i? I always thought it goes on the second syllable as with Naomi - that makes the name sound so very different (but in a good way).

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Depends who I am talking to. If it’s someone in my husband’s family I pronounce the Spanish way, with the emphasis on the i. It’s more like No-emi at home and at school. If we register her birth in Mexico, it will be spelled [name_f]Noemí[/name_f].

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which Amharic middle for Indie
  • Indie Suriya Fern
  • Indie Sosina Fern

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