Unisex Names, Sexism And Beyond

So, there’s been a lot of discussion about unisex names and I felt the need to write about the topic. There are a lot of layers to it - should names be gendered? Is it sexist to call a girl [name_m]Caden[/name_m]? Is it sexist to be angry about a girl being named [name_m]Caden[/name_m]?

I feel that it’s not a question that can be answered without exploring the culture surrounding it.

[name_m]History[/name_m]

Definition time!
Gender identity - which gender a person identifies with, if any
Gender expression - how a person expresses their gender through the way they dress, they way they speak, or their interests.

In Western society, there are considered to be two genders, male and female. It is expected that people will neatly fall into one of those categories. Other societies historically and today have had three, four, five, six genders. With these genders comes expectations, which vary from society to society. The expectation in Western society is that men will be strong, leaders, intelligent, quicker to violence, and that women will be domesticated, caring, docile, calm. More broadly, these traits were grouped into masculinity and femininity.

Or, as many sites put it, pink and blue. I should note about the pink / blue idea that it first arose during the baby boom. Beforehand, there was no clear preference, other than that white was easiest to wash. But this was retrieved from a 1918 guide:

  [i]"The generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. The reason is that pink, being a more decided and stronger color, is more suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl."[/i]

What we take from that is, things associated with gender are social constructs. Nothing about a colour or collection of letters in a particular order is inherently categorised.

In the 1920s the [name_u]West[/name_u] saw one of the first wide-scale, well-recorded rejection of a gender stereotype. This was the flapper girl, who bucked expectations of being good, angelic, modest and chaste until marriage. Flapper girls tried to attain a boyish figure, slim with a flat chest and a straight waist, a direct contrast to the corset-bound Victorian hourglass. They cut their hair short like mens, were not opposed to casual sex, and wore short skirts and drank alcohol. Their dresses were intended to flash their legs as they danced. Newsboy caps, traditionally for men, were donned by flapper girls from every corner. They wore heavy makeup, which was considered scandalous at the time, as were short skirts. I can probably compare this to the panic over [name_f]Miley[/name_f] [name_m]Cyrus[/name_m] after she cut her hair short.

It is no coincidence, surely, at this time, that we saw the first tiny spring of the unisex name. Androgynous surnamey names like [name_f]Shirley[/name_f], [name_u]Marion[/name_u], [name_u]Joyce[/name_u] and [name_f]Beverley[/name_f] became more popular. [name_u]Jessie[/name_u] and [name_u]Jesse[/name_u] were in the top 100 for girls and boys respectively.

The first lesson to take from this is the rise of the unisex name.

The second lesson to take is that when individuals or subcultures step outside gender boundaries, the masses feel uncomfortable. Flapper girls caused a great deal of shock for everyone outside the subculture.

Today

Heavy stuff incoming.

Consider homophobia, transphobia and biphobia, if you will - it is expected that there are two “opposite” genders who “fit” with one another. That is the narrative aggressively enforced in Western culture. When people transcend this norm, suddenly others who do conform feel uncomfortable. This discomfort can manifest as slurs, prevention of LGBT+ rights, harassment, discrimination, social isolation, even outright physical violence against LGBT+ people.

All too often, it is trans people who bear the brunt of this violence. [name_f]Every[/name_f] three days, a trans person is murdered, worldwide. Native American trans children are the likeliest group to be assaulted in US schools. Trans people are at a higher risk of extreme violence than their cis (a.k.a. not trans) counterparts. More importantly, this violence is consistently traced back to the fact they are trans. This is especially true for trans women.

Definition time
Femmephobia - Femmephobia is the hatred of anything regarded as stereotypically feminine. It can be disgust at seeing a man wearing a dress, or thinking a girl is shallow because she wears a lot of makeup. It is distinct from misogyny in the sense that misogyny is hatred or objectification of women, whereas femmephobia can happen to anybody who is perceived as too feminine.

The lesson here: that the feminine is thought of as inferior. Regardless of gender, striving for masculinity is “raising yourself”, making you “powerful”, “independent”. Striving for femininity is “lowering yourself”, making you “shallow”, “vain”, “not serious”, “ditzy”, and so on.

And that, if you have ever asked, is why it’s socially acceptable to name a girl [name_u]Lee[/name_u], but not to name a boy [name_f]Isabel[/name_f].

For more information, you may want to look into the devaluation of women’s work, a.k.a. the phenomenon where as more women enter an area of work, the less well paid it becomes, two examples being doctor and estate agent. It results out of the societal assumption that if women do it, it must be easy and not worth as much, and the assumption that if men do it, it must be very challenging and important.

Where does this link into unisex names?

This is pretty much outright said in this sheknows article by [name_u]Kim[/name_u] Grundy.

    "[i]Unisex names such as [name_u]Cameron[/name_u], [name_u]Dylan[/name_u] or [name_u]Riley[/name_u] may portray a strong image for a woman applying for job, but be careful naming your son a name that is too feminine. It may hurt your son's confidence both in and out of the workplace if he is given a unisex name that is more popular for girls, such as [name_u]Morgan[/name_u] or [name_u]Leslie[/name_u].[/i]"

This isn’t a stab at the author of the article. This is a sentiment we see expressed all the time. More masculine names for girls are “strong”. More feminine names for boys will “hurt his confidence”. To me, this hints at it being a threat to his masculinity. The message from society is clear: masculine is empowering, feminine is dis-empowering. Trousers on a woman are considered serious and businesslike. A skirt on a man is considered hilarious.

During the 1980s-1990s wave of unisex names for girls, we saw boys names trend towards the traditionally masculine - [name_m]Daniel[/name_m], [name_u]James[/name_u], [name_u]Michael[/name_u], names that would generally never be mistaken for feminine.

It may seem like that trend has gone with the rise of names like [name_u]Noah[/name_u] and [name_m]Ezra[/name_m], but it could be argued it appears to have simply shifted. Now we have names such as [name_m]Gunner[/name_m], [name_u]Blaze[/name_u], [name_m]Danger[/name_m], [name_m]Cannon[/name_m], [name_m]Colt[/name_m] and [name_m]Talon[/name_m], that hint at an extreme, violent interpretation of masculinity, in an attempt to distance their sons from anything feminine. Anybody remember [name_m]Jason[/name_m] [name_m]Russell[/name_m]? His son is [name_m]Gavin[/name_m] [name_m]Danger[/name_m]. His daughter? [name_m]Everley[/name_m] Darling.

But those who rail on boy names for girls are not exempt from sexism either.

On the other side, we may see people outraged that their son would share a name with a girl. We tend to have to answer the “is this boy name too girl” questions more than we have to answer “is this girl name too boy”. On the page for [name_u]Owen[/name_u] on a girl, the description says

    "[i]We hate to include this on the girls' list, since one of us has a son named [name_u]Owen[/name_u][/i]"

This isn’t a stab at anyone, but simply evidence that people don’t want their son to share a name with a girl. Many people name their son [name_u]Max[/name_u] and don’t mind he shares a name with a dog, but the concept of naming their son [name_u]Emery[/name_u] and having him share a name with a girl is unthinkable. The most extreme example happens with [name_u]Bailey[/name_u], if you can spare the time to compare the pink and blue stats.

A light at the end of the tunnel?

It would be ridiculous to disregard that 2015 is being hailed as the year of gender-neutral names right now. And it would be ridiculous to ignore that [name_u]Noah[/name_u] and [name_m]Ezra[/name_m] are popular despite having the sounds associated with feminine names that “turned” [name_u]Emery[/name_u] and [name_u]Emerson[/name_u]. And that [name_u]Avery[/name_u], [name_u]Emery[/name_u], [name_u]Emerson[/name_u] are on the upswing for both genders. As if regardless of gender, the sound itself was simply just quite attractive. Note that [name_u]MacKenzie[/name_u] was on the top 1000 for girls, then it emerged for boys, as if visibility were enough. [name_u]Morgan[/name_u] for boys and girls peaked at the same time.

Indeed, I would like to see unisex names more freely used on both genders, and for people not to shy away from names for boys just because girls have that name too.

I hope this shed some light on the issue for anyone who was hoping to know more. I would be honoured to hear your thoughts if you managed to read all this.

[name_f]Amber[/name_f]

Wow, that was beautifully written! I also agree with a lot of your points! I too wish some unisex names were used equality by girls and boys. Some people are seriously afraid to have femininity for boys. I personally don’t think we should even label traits/behaviors masculine or feminine but just as human traits as every trait and every emotion can be felt or expressed by ANY HUMAN.

However, with names you do just have to watch for your child’s sake. I knew a boy named [name_f]Catlin[/name_f] and he had so many issues with legal paperwork and everything because of his name. He was sent a female graduation gown at his high school graduation because people assumed his name was [name_f]Caitlin[/name_f]. I also know a girl named [name_m]Mitch[/name_m](she went by Mitchie). All her legal paper work gets sent to her house as Mr. [name_m]Mitch[/name_m]. It caused a lot of issues, especially when she was getting married the state kept thinking two men were getting married. (This was before marriage was equal and legal for all)

Though I think realistically any name can be used for any gender, I think there has to be limits for the child’s sake as they don’t have to hassle for the rest of their life with legal paperwork.

@princessshannon - Yeah, the issue isn’t the name itself, but how people react to the name. I agree.

Wow, this was really well written! I’m so glad someone took the time to say everything I’ve been thinking!

@gmdx - Couldn’t have done it without all the insightful nameberry discussions, and I’m pleased you enjoyed it!

This is great, thank you! I would love to see this published as an actual article rather than as just a thread. :slight_smile:

I’m so pleased you like it! I’m ridiculously excited that people like it XD.

[name_f]Lovely[/name_f] piece, thank you for sharing!

Part of the issue I have with putting unisex or boy’s nanes on girls is that to me, it was originally, if unintentionally, done to negate the feminine traits coming along with feminine names.

[name_m]Long[/name_m] ago, people wanted their daughters to fit into stereotypes of an ideal housewife, proper lady, etc. so they have them feminine names like [name_f]Mary[/name_f], [name_f]Elizabeth[/name_f], [name_f]Katherine[/name_f], [name_f]Rose[/name_f], etc.

As feminism developed, the idea became that women should have the right to be successful in fields other than homemaking or teaching…that girls could be athletes or doctors or scientists or writers, etc. People (supposed feminists) began to idolize and encourage the “tomboy” person. They wanted their daughters to have traits seen as masculine, being powerful, intelligent, strong, brave. So they gave them fitting nsmes. Like [name_u]Morgan[/name_u] and [name_u]Ashley[/name_u] and [name_u]Barrett[/name_u] and [name_u]Logan[/name_u] and [name_u]MacKenzie[/name_u]. Which is ok, but what does it say about femininity? It says there’s something wrong with being delicate or nurturing or soft or pretty. As much as people don’t want a unisex name on their son for fear of encouraging him to be “girly” or people seeing him as such, they don’t want their daughters to be [name_f]Priscilla[/name_f] or [name_f]Annabella[/name_f] or [name_f]Rosemary[/name_f] for the same reasons. It’s too girly. Too feminine. Too pretty. Not strong enough.

As much as people stop putting [name_u]Logan[/name_u] or [name_u]Elliot[/name_u] or [name_u]Bailey[/name_u] on boys because God forbid their son has too many feminine traits, they stop putting [name_f]Isabelle[/name_f] or [name_f]Diana[/name_f] on their girls for the same.

Wonderful! Amazingly well written! Congratulations! I hope everybody in this site reads this!

@Leadmythoughts - I agree. I think it was the second wave of feminism in particular that equated empowerment to masculine traits.

One thing I wanted to explore but wasn’t sure about was the respelling of androgynous names to make them seem feminine. Like [name_f]Emersyn[/name_f], [name_f]Emerie[/name_f], [name_f]Averie[/name_f] / [name_f]Averi[/name_f], [name_f]Karsyn[/name_f] and so on.

I agree with absolutely everything you’ve written, but at the end of it all I STILL do not agree or support putting male names on females. It sends out the completely wrong message that masculinity is dominant and desirable for everyone whereas, on the flip-side, as you mentioned, using a feminine or effeminate name on a boy is totally taboo.

I adore traditionally masculine names for boys like [name_f]Jocelyn[/name_f] and [name_u]Kimberly[/name_u]. In fact, [name_u]Evelyn[/name_u] is my current #1 boy name. And the amount of hate, bigotry and near-torture I’ve received from others because of it is absolutely astounding. Comments like; “You’re cruel!”, “You are a terrible person!”, “Your son will hate you!” and “[name_f]Do[/name_f] you WANT him to turn gay and be bullied?” are what I normally receive when asking about my favourite boy names - on the rare occasion that I actually manage to buck up the courage to do so. Whereas, your average person asking about [name_m]Jasper[/name_m], [name_u]Noah[/name_u], [name_u]Elliot[/name_u], [name_u]Ryan[/name_u], [name_u]Spencer[/name_u], [name_u]Emerson[/name_u] or [name_u]James[/name_u] for a girl is met with cheers and praise. It’s not fair.

Until the day comes when girl names ([name_f]Annabel[/name_f], [name_f]Lily[/name_f]), girly names ([name_u]Zerah[/name_u], [name_u]Alva[/name_u]), and boy names more popular with girls ([name_f]Shirley[/name_f], [name_u]Vivian[/name_u]) become socially acceptable on boys, I cannot support the sexist, chauvinistic, misogynistic trend that is unisex/gender bending names on girls.

@aldabella - I understand, and the purpose of this isn’t to support masculine names on girls.

FWIW I like [name_u]Evelyn[/name_u] on a boy. Who on earth told you a boy named [name_u]Evelyn[/name_u] would be gay? That sort of thing is genetic. And furthermore… So what if he is gay or more feminine? Nothing wrong with that.

Thank you so much @amberdaydream, that was very well written and I’m so glad you took the time to research and write about such an important issue.

I’d never heard of femmephobia before but it makes so much sense - every summer I volunteer at a children’s holiday club and last year we had a little boy called [name_u]Percy[/name_u] who turned up one day in a dress, and all the other volunteers went into a panic about whether he should be allowed to come in. A few even questioned whether or not he was a boy, asking his mum if [name_u]Percy[/name_u] was short for [name_f]Persephone[/name_f] (he was definitely a boy). It really annoyed me that there was such moral outrage about this when so many of the girls were wearing jeans and no-one batted an eyelid! I’ve also known many parents who say things like “I want my daughter to grow up strong and independent so I’ve encouraged her to play with superhero toys and she doesn’t have any pink clothes” but those self-same parents get irritated when their sons want to play with Barbies and wear glittery tiaras.

My husband (who is also a feminist) made a really interesting point a while back, he said if we really want equality for women to do traditional ‘male’ things, we also have to strive for equality for men to enter ‘female’ domains, i.e. women can’t be fully accepted in “men’s professions” like car mechanic or video game developer until it is acceptable for men to be nail technicians or childminders.

@pebbles320 - I agree. I think even though the word femmephobia isn’t in the dictionary, it’s a very real concept and we need to have the language to talk about it. I think in many cases it overlaps with internalised misogyny, the ‘I’m not like other girls’ attitude, but it’s definitely a thing on its own and I’m glad the language to talk about it exists, even if it’s only a recent coinage.

Sadly, a reality now in society. I actually like most traditionally masculine names on boys that would actually be viewed as ‘strange’ in modern day society eg. [name_u]Mackenzie[/name_u], [name_u]Avery[/name_u], [name_u]Aubrey[/name_u], [name_u]Kelly[/name_u] etc. [name_m]Reading[/name_m] your article has enlightened me greatly! Thank you for that :slight_smile:

@shannonlim - Thanks! Also, [name_u]Aubrey[/name_u] and [name_u]Avery[/name_u] are about 50/50 for boys and girls in the UK!

I like masculine turned feminine names on boys. I’m really starting to like [name_u]Ashley[/name_u] for a boy, although there are plenty of other names I prefer.

Since names like [name_u]Ashley[/name_u], [name_u]Kelly[/name_u], [name_u]Courtney[/name_u], [name_u]Whitney[/name_u], [name_u]Morgan[/name_u] and [name_u]Leslie[/name_u] are becoming less popular for girls, they might come back into style for boys someday. For example, if I had a son and decided to name him [name_u]Kelly[/name_u], the chance of there being a female [name_u]Kelly[/name_u] in his kindergarden class would be very low. A group of 5 year olds isn’t going to assume the name [name_u]Kelly[/name_u] is girly unless they have a mother, aunt or grandma with the name.

The only masculine turned feminine name I just can’t see on a boy is [name_u]Evelyn[/name_u], but that’s because I love it so much on a girl. [name_u]Evelyn[/name_u] is definitely one of my favorite girl names. Similarly, I will never like the name [name_u]Dallas[/name_u] on a girl. Never! [name_u]Dallas[/name_u] is my favorite boy name and to me, it sounds so weird on a girl, as does [name_u]Riley[/name_u].

I agree with you, and I think that even if they do have a female relative called [name_u]Kelly[/name_u] they would probably be very quick to grasp the concept that it can be a boys’ name too. There’s lots of research done about the way kids react when homosexuality is explained to them, generally the younger they are the quicker the are to accept that it’s a normal thing.

I loved the historical bent of this article, and this is a cause near and dear to my heart (I tend to favor softer, more “feminine” names regardless of gender and ardently support them as a concept).

The one thing that I disagree with is the concept of femmephobia. While I haven’t heard the exact word before, I’m familiar with the concept, and to me it masks the real issues. Feminine things or people aren’t devalued because they’re feminine in the abstract, but because they’re associated with women. Devaluing feminine attributes of men is still rooted in misogyny (and often homophobia, of course, but the two are very much linked.) I’m not sure how to phrase this properly as a cisgender woman, but the disgust at feminine attributes in people assigned male at birth, even if they are actually men, is rooted in transmisogyny; it’s another part of the complicated social backdrop that explains why so many people recoil at men, or even people read as male, behaving or presenting in ways that appear feminine.

Again, I want to say that I loved your article, but I think acknowledging the intersections of these sometimes-more-recognized prejudices presents a clearer picture of the issues.

(of course, this has nothing to do with names, but it does deal with the social issues brought up in your piece, so I hope it’s not too out-of-place.)

I agree completely, and I apologise if I wasn’t clear enough! Feminine in this context does mean associated with the popular images and expectations of women, and hatred of it is rooted in misogyny.

It is rooted in transmisogyny, and the intention of discussing femmephobia isn’t to mask misogyny or transmisogyny, nor do I mean to treat the terms as interchangeable, and I apologise if it came off that way! However, misogyny manifests in many ways, while femmephobia is a more specific type of misogyny. For example saying a trans woman presents as too masculine (“isn’t trying hard enough”) is transmisogyny, but not femmephobia.

This is probably down to me to phrasing things well or general carelessness on my part. [name_f]Glad[/name_f] you enjoyed the post. And I’m glad you called it an article! :#)