Unknown gender, baby #3, help!

[name_m]Hi[/name_m]!

[name_u]Baby[/name_u] will be delivered [name_u]September[/name_u] 7, 2023. Less than a month to go and my husband is not sold on our top name choices. :sweat_smile: We have two sons, H@rvey and [name_m]Jim[/name_m] (J@mes).
Our top name for a girl is [name_f]Fernanda[/name_f]. [name_f]My[/name_f] husband prefers the name [name_f]Sophia[/name_f], but I have a cousin with that name, and I donā€™t love how popular it is. The middle name will be [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]. I love [name_f]Patricia[/name_f] as a first name, but my husband only wants it as the middle name.
Our top name for a boy is [name_m]Marvin[/name_m]. [name_f]My[/name_f] husband prefers [name_u]Franklin[/name_u], but I canā€™t get on board because I have a weird association in my brain between the nickname [name_m]Frank[/name_m] and the F word. Also, I really dislike the nickname [name_u]Frankie[/name_u], and I am a nickname person. So, I donā€™t think I could just call the child [name_u]Franklin[/name_u] 100% of the time. Plus, I would cringe when other people called them [name_m]Frank[/name_m] or [name_u]Frankie[/name_u].
Names that have been suggested to us a lot before that, we really donā€™t like are [name_m]Oscar[/name_m], [name_f]Vanessa[/name_f], and [name_f]Francesca[/name_f].
Iā€™m not sure if itā€™s possible, because weā€™ve been talking about names for what feels like years on end, but if you all could think of any suggestions that maybe we havenā€™t considered that ideally go well with our sonsā€™ names, I would appreciate it so much!
If it helps, my favorite names are [name_m]Lysander[/name_m] and [name_f]Clio[/name_f]. [name_f]My[/name_f] husband hates both. [name_f]My[/name_f] husband really likes [name_f]Camila[/name_f] (another of my cousinā€™s names), [name_u]Edward[/name_u] and [name_u]Earl[/name_u] (after his grandfather).

Thank you!

Great names all around!

[name_f]Calla[/name_f] and Margot/Margo kind of have ā€œClioā€ vibes, would either one be a possibility?

[name_f]Calla[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f] or [name_f]Margo[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]

[name_f]Margo[/name_f] and [name_m]Marvin[/name_m] are very similar, so maybe one or the other depending on if itā€™s a boy or a girl?

[name_m]Marvin[/name_m] [name_u]Edward[/name_u] sounds really strong and handsome.

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Congrats!

I really like Marvin!! What about [name_m]Alvin[/name_m]? A combination between [name_m]Marvin[/name_m] and [name_u]Franklin[/name_u]. Other suggestions, [name_m]Chester[/name_m], [name_u]Walter[/name_u], [name_m]Ernest[/name_m], [name_m]Victor[/name_m], [name_m]Calvin[/name_m].

For girl names [name_f]Fernanda[/name_f] is really unexpected, I think itā€™d be really cool to meet someone with this name. For a girl Iā€™ll suggest, [name_f]Philomena[/name_f], [name_f]Wilhelmina[/name_f], [name_f]Anita[/name_f], [name_f]Seraphina[/name_f]

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[name_m]Marvin[/name_m] [name_u]Edward[/name_u] would be great. [name_m]Martin[/name_m] [name_u]Edward[/name_u] (Marty) was the first thing that came to my mind.

[name_f]Roxane[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f] or [name_f]Irene[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f] (Ren) could work. Another option that I came across is [name_f]Catalina[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f].

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I do like [name_f]Margo[/name_f], but more as a nickname for [name_f]Margaret[/name_f]. Thanks!

I love [name_u]Walter[/name_u] and [name_m]Calvin[/name_m]. Unfortunately, my husband does not.

[name_u]Wren[/name_u] is my only niece. I campaigned for them to name her [name_f]Catalina[/name_f], after their favorite [name_u]Island[/name_u] where they got engaged. So, I like those names, but couldnā€™t use them.

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If [name_u]Edward[/name_u] is the name of his grandfather is [name_f]Edith[/name_f] on the table for a girl? [name_m]Harvey[/name_m] , [name_m]Jim[/name_m] and [name_f]Edith[/name_f] sounds perfect for you! For a boy [name_u]Evan[/name_u] would work really well.

Other choices -

[name_f]Girl[/name_f] Names -

[name_f]Arlene[/name_f]
[name_f]Cecily[/name_f]
[name_f]Jeanette[/name_f]
[name_f]Adele[/name_f]
[name_f]Delphine[/name_f]
[name_f]Etta[/name_f]
[name_f]Faye[/name_f]
[name_f]Miranda[/name_f]
[name_f]Harriet[/name_f]
[name_f]Lydia[/name_f]
[name_f]Mariah[/name_f]
[name_f]Sabrina[/name_f]
[name_f]Maude[/name_f]
[name_f]Serena[/name_f]
[name_f]Karina[/name_f]
[name_f]Leona[/name_f]

[name_m]Boy[/name_m] Names -

[name_u]Cecil[/name_u]
[name_m]Reuben[/name_m]
[name_u]Lawrence[/name_u]
[name_m]Leonard[/name_m]
[name_m]Emmanuel[/name_m]
[name_m]Gideon[/name_m]
[name_u]Bennett[/name_u]
[name_m]Calvin[/name_m]
[name_u]Emmett[/name_u]
[name_m]Hugh[/name_m]
[name_m]Raphael[/name_m]
[name_m]Solomon[/name_m]
[name_m]Winston[/name_m]

Personally for girls the sound of [name_m]Harvey[/name_m] , [name_m]Jim[/name_m] and [name_f]Faye[/name_f] is too cute to pass up. For boys I like [name_m]Hugh[/name_m] but Iā€™m not sure how you feel about two kids with H names.

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[name_f]My[/name_f] first thought was [name_f]Breanna[/name_f], and I love [name_m]Marvin[/name_m] for a boy!

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A few names that came to mind:

[name_f]Cassandra[/name_f] - reminds me of [name_f]Camila[/name_f], [name_m]Lysander[/name_m], [name_f]Sophia[/name_f] and [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]

[name_f]Melina[/name_f] - reminds me of [name_f]Camila[/name_f], [name_f]Patricia[/name_f] and the sounds of [name_f]Clio[/name_f]

[name_f]Margo[/name_f] - reminds me of [name_f]Clio[/name_f], [name_m]Marvin[/name_m] and [name_f]Camila[/name_f]

[name_f]Pearl[/name_f] - like [name_u]Earl[/name_u], but a bit like [name_f]Clio[/name_f] in style?

[name_u]Laurence[/name_u] - a bit like [name_m]Lysander[/name_m] but more classic?

[name_m]Evander[/name_m] - links to [name_u]Edward[/name_u] - like [name_m]Lysander[/name_m]

[name_u]Elias[/name_u] - some similar sounds to [name_m]Lysander[/name_m], but shares sounds with [name_u]Earl[/name_u] too

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Hope this late stage info is helpful and not too overwhelming!

My two cents, Harvey, Jim &:

For girls, Iā€™m not sure about Fernanda. It is a statement name. But I know two Fernandas and they donā€™t like their names - one uses Fernie and wishes she were just Fern/Fearne. Could that be an option? Or Faye or Flora or Fleur? The other (nickname Nanda) finds it too Spanish sounding for being a Brit (that might be problematic but I can see where sheā€™s coming from as people ask her to repeat her name or explain where itā€™s from practically every time she introduces herself). I like Camila - or probably Camilla (unless Camila more culturally meaningful). Itā€™s a pretty name and I love Cami and Milla! And agree with above poster that Edith would be delightful.

Other names you both might like:

Sylvia (Sylvie is too close to Harvey)
Sylviana
Theodora
Isadora
Anastasia
Anoushka
Claudia
Estella
Felicity
Serena
Sabina
Francine (love!)
Susannah
Tallulah
Paloma
Daphne
Bridget
Arabella
Bronte
Cassia
Livia
Helena
Elodie
Elora
Alessandra
Diana
Cressida
Chloe
Cleo

Re boys, I donā€™t like Frank/Frankie (for a boy or girl) either! And my reservation with Marvin is its proximity to Harvey - Marvey & Harvey, leaving out little Jim! I really like Edward nn Ted.

How about:

Everett
Emmett
Edmund
Edwin
Emrys
Evander
Elias
Wilfred
Frederick
Xander
Xavier
Winston
Hugo
Henry
Harry
Hugh (though H names prob not ideal)
Archer/Archie
Charles/Charlie
Fletcher
Arthur
Callum
Lachlan
Leo
Louis
Wilbur
Willem
Tobias / Tobin nn Toby
Rafferty
And my fave boysā€™ name: Sebastian

Hope this helps! :sparkles:

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I would suggestā€¦
[name_f]Inez[/name_f]
[name_f]Tamsin[/name_f]

[name_m]Walden[/name_m]
[name_u]Wallace[/name_u]
[name_m]Wendel[/name_m]

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Congrats!

[name_f]My[/name_f] opinions-

[name_f]Fernanda[/name_f] doesnā€™t seem like the best fit with brothers [name_m]Harvey[/name_m] & [name_m]Jim[/name_m] with such a Spanish/Latino soundā€¦ but I do love pp suggestion of [name_f]Cassandra[/name_f]! [name_f]Amanda[/name_f] also feels like it shares a lot of your favorite sounds but fits in better. I love [name_f]Patricia[/name_f] or even [name_u]Patrice[/name_u]!

[name_m]Marvin[/name_m] also seems too close to [name_m]Harvey[/name_m] with both having that -arv sound. [name_m]Marv[/name_m] & [name_m]Harv[/name_m] leave out poor [name_m]Jim[/name_m]! I do love [name_u]Franklin[/name_u] (and Frankie) but appreciate your negative associationsā€¦ what about [name_u]Sullivan[/name_u]? That seems like a cross between styles.

Good luck! Naming is so hard!

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It sounds like step 1 for you guys is to get on the same page. Neither of you like the other oneā€™s names, and maybe that isnā€™t going to be solved by continually trying to convince each other?

If you have a girl, I think the best of your name options that fits with your sibset is [name_f]Clio[/name_f] (vs. [name_f]Camila[/name_f], [name_f]Fernanda[/name_f], or Patricia). Since your husband doesnā€™t like [name_f]Clio[/name_f], maybe consider some of these similar names:
[name_f]Athena[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]
[name_f]Gaia[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]
[name_f]Sybil[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]
[name_f]Clea[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]
[name_u]Briar[/name_u] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]
[name_f]Sonia[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f]

If you have a boy, the name I like most of the names you mentioned is [name_u]Franklin[/name_u], but obviously you donā€™t like potential nicknames for it. Some alternative nicknames would be Franks, [name_m]Franz[/name_m], or [name_u]France[/name_u]. I like [name_u]Franklin[/name_u] over [name_m]Lysander[/name_m], [name_m]Marvin[/name_m], [name_u]Edward[/name_u] or [name_u]Earl[/name_u] because I think it works better with your sibset. Some other ideasā€¦
[name_m]Harrison[/name_m] [name_u]Earl[/name_u]
[name_u]Lincoln[/name_u] [name_u]Earl[/name_u]
[name_u]Everett[/name_u] [name_m]Lysander[/name_m]
[name_u]Walter[/name_u] [name_u]Edward[/name_u]
[name_u]Watson[/name_u] [name_u]Earl[/name_u]

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[name_u]Leander[/name_u]?

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I like the vintage theme you have going with Harvey & James. Great classic choices.

Girl:
Adelaide
Allison
Amelia
Anne
Bea
Beverly
Catherine
Diane
Donna
Erica
Florence
Frances
Iris
Jessica
Kathleen
Margaret
Margot
Marilyn
Martha
Mary
Millie (Mildred)
Nell
Nellie
Opal
Patience
Rebecca
Sandra
Sylvia
Tamara
Vanessa

Boy:
Craig
Curtis
Garrett
Gary
Ian
Kenneth
Louis
Matthew
Michael
Otis
Otto
Owen
Patrick
Paul
Robert
Steven
Thomas
Todd
Vince

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I like [name_u]Franklin[/name_u] more as a middle name. Probably because my grandfather was [name_u]George[/name_u] [name_u]Franklin[/name_u].
[name_u]Earl[/name_u] [name_u]Franklin[/name_u] would be handsome.

[name_f]Camilla[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f] and [name_f]Fernanda[/name_f] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f] are okay. I think [name_u]Cleo[/name_u] [name_f]Patricia[/name_f] is so sweet. Other suggestions
[name_m]Harvey[/name_m], [name_u]James[/name_u], and

[name_u]Francis[/name_u]
[name_u]George[/name_u]
[name_m]Isidore[/name_m]
[name_m]Leonard[/name_m]
[name_u]Maxwell[/name_u]
[name_m]Nixon[/name_m]
[name_m]Patrick[/name_m]
[name_m]Vincent[/name_m]

[name_f]Agnes[/name_f]
[name_f]Beatriz[/name_f]
[name_u]Carmen[/name_u]
[name_f]Claire[/name_f]
[name_f]Ines[/name_f]
[name_f]Rosalie[/name_f]
[name_f]Soledad[/name_f]
[name_f]Veronica[/name_f]

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Update: We are now tossing around the names [name_u]Stanley[/name_u] and [name_m]Ted[/name_m] (Edward). [name_m]Theodore[/name_m] is not a consideration because my sister-in-lawā€˜s top name is [name_u]Theo[/name_u] and my husband isnā€™t a [name_m]Theodore[/name_m] fan, anyway. [name_f]My[/name_f] three-year-old is suggesting the name Tain/Tane. I actually kind of love it as a middle name because it rhymes with both my middle name and my husbandā€™s middle name, and has a nice meaning. If you pronounce it properly in Polynesian, I donā€™t think it would still rhyme, but that doesnā€™t bother me for a middle name. [name_m]Marvin[/name_m] [name_m]Tane[/name_m] would have the same initials as my sister-in-law. :heart: Any thoughts on [name_m]Stan[/name_m], [name_m]Ted[/name_m], or [name_m]Tane[/name_m]? Thank you for all of the suggestions!! Itā€™s really helping us think.