Vladimir(o) (mostly this Italian form since it should be more acceptable because it is my language and it has more musicality) since I was a child because it reminded me of vampires and gothic novels, also Miro / Mir is cute as a nickname and means world / peace and even though I am not going to have children soon.
I still want to ask if this name is really this unusable and bad now and it is going to be like Adolf or something similar or maybe in the future it will get a bit off of the bad associations and might be usuable as middle because to be honest now when I hear this name all what I am scared of is the associations with well the current president of Russia which I do not want to have any pro associations with but anyways! Is it that bad that I like this name?
Mostly the meaning is nice too because it means to rule with peace which is super cool!! I LOVE names with good meanings.
Or maybe I am overthinking but anyways I am just going to keep it as a guilty pleasure in my lists but maybe it is too bad even as a guilty pleasure??
Please be brutally honest, I ask myself this question since a while and I need an answer
Also if it helps I don’t live in the States or an English speaking country
The name definitely very mysterious, gothic, castles, 1600-1800s, red and black, a bit Romanian than Russian for some reason but still, and books and vampires, definitely vampires. Maybe some kings and old dark legends from the past, forests, manors, dark houses. But sadly now there is the association with you know, the current president of Russia who lets say ruined the name, so yeah. I would classify it more with Edgar or Viorel than Charles, for example…. but anyways!
I wondered about a similar thing not too long ago as I also like/liked the name Valdimir. I think only time will tell if the name falls out of use or not and becomes unusable. [name_m]Volodymyr[/name_m] Selenskys first name is actually a variant of [name_m]Vladimir[/name_m] too and there’s Kievs mayor Wladimir Klitschko who could keep the name in a positive light but we’ll see how naming trends will change. I don’t think there’s anything bad about liking Vladimiro but I might not put the name in a Uc rn as it is a very sensitive topic.
For me it’s totally different from [name_m]Adolf[/name_m], even if it’s the Russian version, because it’s such a common name. It’s like, if Hitler was named [name_u]John[/name_u], he still wouldn’t have ruined the name because it’s so much bigger than any single person.
Nobody bats an eye at [name_m]Francisco[/name_m] (Franco and a couple of other dictators), [name_u]Robert[/name_u] (Mugabe), [name_m]Paul[/name_m] (Kagame), [name_u]Augustine[/name_u] (Pinochet), [name_m]Hugo[/name_m] (Chavez), or [name_u]Joseph[/name_u] (Stalin), to only name a few.
You have dozens upon dozens of famous people with the name [name_m]Vladimir[/name_m] or any version of it, so honestly I wouldn’t see it as a problematic name.
Adolf was actually a common name in Germany until Hitler and well used in other european countries with many famous namebearers but you’re right not all names of dictators get ruined.
@MalibuBrie@heartwings it was popular that’s for sure, but I think it really peaked around the start of the 20th century, it’s not a long lasting popular name. It’d probably be something like [name_f]Karen[/name_f] in the US. It wasn’t unheard of before but not one that has somehow always been quite common.
I just saw that [name_m]Vladimir[/name_m] is in the top 100 names in the world. And I really think it has been a popular name for quite a few centuries in Russian speaking countries, it was a [name_u]Royal[/name_u] name already in the Middle Ages so it must have been pretty popular already then.
I really don’t see them the same way. Maybe I’m wrong, I couldn’t find really useful charts for [name_m]Vladimir[/name_m].
I’m confused about why you have censored the name?
I think [name_m]Vladimir[/name_m] will be tainted for some time, at least in Western Europe. But, from what I understand, it’s a very common name in the former USSR and aligned countries, so I wouldn’t judge anybody with that name, just as I wouldn’t assume somebody named [name_m]Hussein[/name_m] has some connection with former Iraqi leader Saddam [name_m]Hussein[/name_m]. Unfortunately people can be ignorant though and they might make rude comments about the name.
I think Vladimiro is a bit of a different case, since it has a different sound and is clearly a different name, so the connection isn’t as obvious. I wouldn’t assume somebody named [name_m]Adolfo[/name_m] is named after [name_m]Adolf[/name_m] Hitler (even though it’s definitely not a name I would use myself).
@Zeno8 for [name_m]Hugo[/name_m], I think mainly of [name_m]Victor[/name_m] [name_m]Hugo[/name_m], it’s like in my mind Hugochavez is one singular entity and not two names
I’m going to agree that this is a regional thing. Perhaps it says more about me, but I did not automatically think of Russia’s president. I typically refer to him and remember him by his last name, not by [name_m]Vladimir[/name_m].
[name_f]My[/name_f] mind immediately went to [name_m]Vlad[/name_m] Țepeș, which admittedly, is not much better… Though [name_m]Vladislav[/name_m] might be a nice alternative?
As a guilty pleasure name, I think Vladimiro is fine. If you were seriously considering it, then I would caution you to gauge the reactions of those around you first.
Hm. I don’t really know how to answer whether it’s usable or not. I live in Croatia, which is a Slavic country, and my first association for [name_m]Vladimir[/name_m] is people I know, not Putin. To me, the name sounds dated but I consider it a pretty normal name. However, in non-Slavic countries, I reckon it’d be quite unusual but not necessarily unusable, as he is not the only well-known [name_m]Vladimir[/name_m]. The Ukranian president’s name, [name_m]Volodimir[/name_m], is actually a variant of [name_m]Vladimir[/name_m] so it definitely goes both ways.
I would like to suggest Vlatko, though. It’s a [name_u]South[/name_u] Slavic diminutive of [name_m]Vladimir[/name_m] but I never, ever see it mentioned anywhere. To me, it has a more youthful and laid-back vibe, and I ADORE the feminine version Vlatka!
