🌈 whimsical middles for sisters Frances + Helen

[name_m]Hi[/name_m] all! :kite:

I’ve been loving the idea of [name_f]Frances[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] as sisters - put into my head by @ellerbea who even suggested that they should have whimsical middles. I drafted essentially this exact same post at the time but thought I could come up with those middles on my own, but here I am about a month later requesting help from the [name_u]Berry[/name_u] hivemind (is it just me or is it so much easier to like a name when someone on here suggests it than when I find it myself?)

One of my main style notes is an appreciation for combos that have some contrast/juxtaposition. I lean much more towards something like [name_f]Edith[/name_f] [name_u]Wilder[/name_u] than I do [name_f]Edith[/name_f] [name_f]Margaret[/name_f], my favorite celebrity baby name is [name_f]Jenny[/name_f] Slate’s daughter [name_f]Ida[/name_f] [name_u]Lupine[/name_u]. Midcentury first + modern middle, geek chic first + nature middle - love them all. [name_f]My[/name_f] main stipulation is that I still like for the name to be usable - something like [name_f]Tuesday[/name_f] definitely has the vibe but I have a hard time seeing myself using it.

Lately I’ve been sticking [name_f]Clementine[/name_f] in as everyone’s middle name. [name_f]My[/name_f] [name_f]Frances[/name_f] combo-in-waiting is/was [name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Maude[/name_f] and I do really like it… Though I was trying to match it for this set and I have a scrap piece of paper with “Frances [name_f]Maude[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] Myrtle” doodled on it but I’m not sure the gravitas and energy are there.

Any ideas would be appreciated, I’m looking forward to channeling some energy into naming

Aesthetic/moodboard for this sisterset 🤸🏻‍♀️📖🌼

They’re dewy [name_f]May[/name_f] mornings, one milkshake with two straws, each with one half of a ‘best friends’ necklace, lightning bugs, pinning art on your walls, making costumes for their dogs and cats to put on little plays, peanut butter and strawberries.

:bike: Bonus: what would you name a sibling to [name_f]Frances[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f]? One of the things that I enjoy about these two is that they could go in a lot of different directions. A third sister could be simple and tailored like [name_f]Jane[/name_f] or quirky and retro like [name_f]Agnes[/name_f], a brother [name_m]Morris[/name_m] just as much as [name_u]George[/name_u]. In some ways, I’m not sure that this mental sibset has a third or fourth sibling but it’s fun to think about.

apologies for any formatting issues, it was ambitious of me to try to write this post on mobile

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I love [name_f]Frances[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] together! [name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Maude[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Myrtle[/name_f] are so sweet, but I understand that they might lack the energy you’re looking for. I feel like vintage combos can be hard as far as particular vibes go because the same combo can easily give off “quiet, formal, buttoned-up Victorian” vibes and also “lively, impish old-fashioned childhood” vibes depending on how you look at it.

How about…
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Clover[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Matilda[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Ramona[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Jean[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Lively[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Poppy[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Indie[/name_u] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Joy[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Myla[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Oakley[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Bonnie[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Piper[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Juniper[/name_u] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Marigold[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Romilly[/name_u] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Indigo[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Blue[/name_u] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]James[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Everly[/name_u] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Rory[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Marvel[/name_u] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Banks[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Veronica[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Joan[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Lola[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Maisie[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Moxie[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_m]Friday[/name_m]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Clementine[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Pepper[/name_u]

And bonus: I completely agree that you could go either direction for sibling names! For my personal taste I’d probably say: [name_f]Ramona[/name_f], [name_f]Matilda[/name_f], or [name_f]Greta[/name_f] for a girl, and [name_m]Silas[/name_m], [name_u]Toby[/name_u], or [name_m]Samuel[/name_m] for a boy.

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For juxtaposition, maybe:

[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Shae[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Mila[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Sage[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Rayne[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Willow[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] Jenaye
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Lavender[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Joelle[/name_f]

For siblings, maybe: [name_f]Vera[/name_f] [name_f]Joy[/name_f], [name_f]Rowena[/name_f] [name_f]Mabel[/name_f], or [name_f]Erlene[/name_f] [name_f]Hallie[/name_f] as sisters / [name_m]Winston[/name_m] Roam, [name_m]Zacharias[/name_m] [name_u]Blake[/name_u], or [name_u]Carlisle[/name_u] [name_m]Oliver[/name_m] as brothers.

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Honestly, I love [name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Maude[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Myrtle[/name_f]. To me, it fits your aesthetic/moodboard quite well and the sibset is adorable.

However, if you did want different MNs, how about...

[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Imogen[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Lucille[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Lily[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Rose[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Wilfreda[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Wilhelmine[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Andrea[/name_u] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Avis[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Daniya[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Samina[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Eve[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Rue[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Ophelie[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Ursule[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Greta[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Astrid[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Perdita[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Morwenna[/name_f]

For a boy sibling, how about...

[name_m]Isaac[/name_m] [name_m]Morris[/name_m]
[name_m]Oliver[/name_m] [name_m]Morris[/name_m]
[name_m]Anders[/name_m] [name_m]Morris[/name_m]
[name_m]Morris[/name_m] [name_u]Sterling[/name_u]
[name_m]Oliver[/name_m] [name_u]Sterling[/name_u]
[name_m]Anders[/name_m] [name_u]Sterling[/name_u]
[name_u]Wilson[/name_u] [name_m]Morris[/name_m]
[name_u]Wilson[/name_u] [name_u]Sterling[/name_u]

For a girl sibling, how about...

[name_f]Wilma[/name_f] [name_f]Moira[/name_f]
[name_f]Wilma[/name_f] [name_f]Millicent[/name_f]
[name_f]Rita[/name_f] [name_f]Millicent[/name_f]
[name_f]Rita[/name_f] [name_f]Mildred[/name_f]
[name_f]Wilma[/name_f] [name_f]Pearl[/name_f]
[name_f]Rita[/name_f] [name_f]Pearl[/name_f]
[name_f]Mildred[/name_f] [name_f]Pearl[/name_f]
[name_u]Ruby[/name_u] [name_f]Moira[/name_f]
[name_u]Ruby[/name_u] [name_f]Millicent[/name_f]
[name_u]Ruby[/name_u] [name_f]Mildred[/name_f]
[name_f]Wilma[/name_f] [name_u]Ruby[/name_u]
[name_f]Mildred[/name_f] [name_u]Ruby[/name_u]

[name_f]Hope[/name_f] this comes in handy🙂!

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oh goodness. how cute are frances + helen? they’re family names for me, and high on my list, so i’ll probably pinch a few ideas from this thread too! :yarn:

i’ll offer a few frances + helen combinations on my list… :honeybee:

frances olive
frances wilma
frances bea
frances mayella
frances nona

helen ruth
helen imogene
helen twila
helen jemima
helen eula

and as for siblings, morris, george, agnes and jane are lovely. george is actually one of mine and my partner’s favorite for a future little. here are a few more ideas…

silas
albert ‘bert’
harvey
milton
edward ‘ward’
harlan
roscoe
webb

pearl
florence ‘floss’
martha
judith ‘judy’
imogene
nella
beverly
alma

hope this helps! :seedling:

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Frances Romee and Helen Cerise

Frances Pomeline and Helen Mirabelle

Frances Brighton and Helen Adair

Frances Tempest and Helen Phryne

Frances Ginger and Helen Sunshine

Frances Bee and Helen Tansy

Frances Honey and Helen Bluebell

Frances Endellion and Helen Kerensa

Frances Merrily and Helen Waverly

Frances Kerrigan and Helen Truett


For siblings, I’d go for Frances, Helen and…

Rufus
Enid
Marshall
Verity
Wilfred
Mina

[name_u]Love[/name_u] [name_f]Frances[/name_f] and [name_f]Helen[/name_f], and love this style!

[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Lilou[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Romy[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Briar[/name_u] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Zadie[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Indigo[/name_u] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Vesper[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Echo[/name_u] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Artemis[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Oona[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Gaia[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Blue[/name_u] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Monet[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Electra[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Saga[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]River[/name_u] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Story[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Tallulah[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Aviva[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Twyla[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Jessamy[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Hero[/name_u] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Thisbe[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Holiday[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Plum[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Delphi[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Pax[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Blythe[/name_u] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Marlowe[/name_u]


Siblings:

[name_f]Ruth[/name_f]
[name_f]Georgia[/name_f]
[name_f]Beatrice[/name_f] or [name_f]Beatrix[/name_f]
[name_f]Dorothy[/name_f]
[name_f]Mabel[/name_f]
[name_u]Joan[/name_u]
[name_u]Walter[/name_u]
[name_m]Peter[/name_m]
[name_u]Claude[/name_u]
[name_u]Lowell[/name_u]
[name_m]Bernard[/name_m]
[name_m]Louis[/name_m]

What do you think of …
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Cleo[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Phoebe[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Kit[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Winry[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Waverley[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Wistaria[/name_f] (or [name_f]Wisteria[/name_f], but [name_f]Wistaria[/name_f] is more whimsical, do you agree? :blush: )
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Wildflower[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Primrose[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Coralie[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Prairie[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Wildrose[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Amethyst[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Hathaway[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Pascaline[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Callidora[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Camellia[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Lupin[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Jasper[/name_u]

[name_f]My[/name_f] sister is [name_f]Helen[/name_f]! I think [name_f]Frances[/name_f] suits [name_f]Helen[/name_f] as a sister honestly such a sweet retro sister set :lemon:

I like [name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Maude[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Myrtle[/name_f] they feel very clunky cool. [name_f]My[/name_f] sister is [name_f]Helen[/name_f] J@net. I actually think [name_f]Janet[/name_f] is a name that’s your vibe and would work well. Maybe you could take inspiration from my sister’s name! Maybe [name_f]Frances[/name_f] middle name could be [name_f]Jane[/name_f] to follow in a similar pattern of [name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Maude[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Myrtle[/name_f]. You could have [name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Jane[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] J@net.

Anyways moving away from stealing my sister’s name and onto other ideas

[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Concordia[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Deliverance[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Daylily[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Primrose[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Euphemia[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Calliope[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Makepeace[/name_u] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Blessing[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Lavender[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Cassia[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] Appleby + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Clemency[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Sunshine[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] Stargazer
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Lola[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Alba[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Juniper[/name_u] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Elowen[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Pomeline[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Emiliana[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Marigold[/name_f] + [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Saffron[/name_u]

[name_f]Hope[/name_f] this helps and some of these work. I appreciate some of these could be a bit wild I got carried away!

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Such sweet names!
I really like Frances Maude but I feel like maybe Helen Myrtle isn’t quite as perfect :thinking: I love Jane with Frances and Helen. Here are some ideas:

• Helen Flora
• Helen Vera
• Helen Enid
• Helen Lois
• Helen Elspeth
• Helen Tabitha
• Helen Zelda
• Helen Jessamy
• Helen Magnolia
• Helen Cosima
• Helen Zipporah
• Helen Pear (it just sounds so sweet!)
• Helen Lamb (ditto)

• Frances Opal
• Frances Rowan
• Frances Willow
• Frances Mabel
• Frances Stella
• Frances Isadora
• Frances Guinevere
• Frances Honesty
• Frances Skylark
• Frances Bramble
• Frances Almond (joining pals Pear & Lamb)
• Frances Anise (ditto; pronounced a-niece)

Simpler middles:
• Helen Ruth
• Helen Faye
• Helen Rose
• Helen Ruby
• Helen Daisy
• Helen Iris
• Frances Eve
• Frances Charlotte
• Frances Clare/Claire
• Frances Elise
• Frances Nora
• Frances Hazel
• Frances Emily

Sibling ideas:
• Cora, Lucy, Phoebe, Ingrid, Margaret (Daisy, Peggy, Maggie), Beatrix (Bea, Trixie), Juliet (Julie, Jules)
• Arthur, Oscar, Charles, Robert (Rob, Bobby, Bertie), Benjamin (Ben, Benjy), William (Bill, Will, Liam), Theodore (Theo, Tad, Dory)

(Also, what did you use to make the cute moodboard? :two_hearts:)

[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Maude[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Myrtle[/name_f] are so so sweet. I’m always a [name_f]Myrtle[/name_f] lover but I totally get wanting something more whimsical to balance out [name_f]Frances[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f]!

Maybe…
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Waterlily[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Serendipity[/name_f] (maybe more GP than what you’re looking for, but [name_f]Serendipity[/name_f] is just so fun)
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]July[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Poetry[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Ottilie[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Lilibet[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Holiday[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Starling[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Lilac[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_u]Fable[/name_u]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Romilly[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Tabitha[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]April[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_m]Cosmos[/name_m]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Alpenglow[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Apricity[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Neptune[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Sonnet[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_u]Mayfair[/name_u] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] [name_f]Reverie[/name_f]
[name_f]Frances[/name_f] [name_f]Clarity[/name_f] & [name_f]Helen[/name_f] Periwinkle

For siblings, I can see [name_f]Frances[/name_f], [name_f]Helen[/name_f], and…
[name_f]Martha[/name_f]
[name_f]Margot[/name_f]
[name_f]Mabel[/name_f]
[name_f]Lucille[/name_f]
[name_f]Maude[/name_f] as a first name!
[name_f]Bonnie[/name_f]
[name_f]Beatrice[/name_f] “Betsy”
[name_f]Flora[/name_f]
[name_m]Thomas[/name_m]
[name_m]Nathaniel[/name_m]
[name_m]Edgar[/name_m]
[name_m]Simon[/name_m]
[name_m]Philip[/name_m] “Pip”