Name regret/fixation 7 months old

I’ve chimed in on here lots throughout the last few years and birth of my two daughters.
My first born is named Leni. We AODRE her name. I have so much pride in it and it’s one of those names I never thought twice about.

We STRUGGLED naming our second. It honestly consumed me in a way that caused so much stress.
We had decided on Frances early on, which we’ve always loved and right away was an easy agreed pick. Halfway through my pregnancy, a friend of mine (who I’m no longer close with, to boot) told me essentially I shouldn’t use Frances. That she was seeing it pop up a lot amongst her work clients and friends and it was such a common, cliche name. Me being me, I immediately nixed the name and told my husband we couldn’t use it.
We also always loved Lou. It was the second contender to Leni, but I was adamant not to have two back to back L names. Leni and Lou sounded a bit too cutesy to me. My husband really wanted this name and tried to fight for it. I felt really attached to it and sad to let it go, but also sure that I would regret it later next to Leni.
I then found Ines and thought it was the one. My family is from Spain and I liked the fact that it was a Spanish name, but also unique and beautiful. My husband tried to get on board but ultimately it wasn’t really his vibe and I have to admit, he kind of butchered it every time he said it :joy: “ANEZ.”

Basically a few weeks before birth, I stumbled upon Ruth. I liked that it was one syllable next to Leni (two syllables). It had this like old, Jewish lady vibe that I thought was cute in an unexpected way, even though it’s not really the style of name we personally are drawn to. I liked that we could call her Ru for short and thought that was such a fun nickname.

When our second was born, we waited a week and went back and forth between Lou and Ruth. In the end, we picked Ruth, but clearly told everyone to refer to her as Ru.
After two weeks, we (aka me**) started questioning Ruth. I noticed I wanted everyone to only use Ru, so then asked myself what the point of Ruth was. We decided to officially name her Ru. My husband gave me Ines for her middle. Ru Ines is her name.

Ru is 7 months now and I fixate on her name relentlessly. I teeter weekly; some days, I really do love her name and think it’s super unique and special without being too over the top. Other days, I hate it and think it’s so silly and I question why out of all the names we could have given her, we picked Ru. It was kind of impulsive and last minute and I was grasping to find something.

I ask my husband all the time if we can change Ru’s name to Ines Ru, and that way we could keep calling her Ru as a nickname and no one would even have to know. He gets really upset when I ask and says he loves Ru so much. His name is Kevin and he always says he wishes he had an interesting name with character to it. He thinks her name is so fitting for who she is. Plus he doesn’t love Ines as a first.

We knew we wanted three kids but of course didn’t know what we’d end up having, gender wise. We are now expecting our third, another girl. I’m 17 weeks and due early September. We’ve decided to name this baby Frances Mars, which we both feel so good about.

I find myself now regretting not naming Ru, Frances. I regret so badly listening to one person who’s opinion shouldn’t have mattered, and ignoring my own feeling, which was knowing I love the name, regardless of if it’s popular or overused or whatever (which it also isn’t even any of those things :upside_down_face:). Had we used Frances in the middle, for our second, as initially planned, then I could have named this third baby Lou and gotten to use two of my fav names and all would have worked out perfectly fly. I still would love to use Lou, I just didn’t want it directly beside Leni.

I don’t know what to do. I’m extremely indecisive so my husband often says this is just what I do and I’m fixating but will get over it. But I find the fact I’m still thinking about it now is for a valid reason and I don’t know if I’ll ever confidently love her name.

We are moving to a diff province in two weeks and I feel like it would be a good opportunity to change her name, since we could just introduce her as whatever we want to call her to new people there and not have to explain. But I also feel self conscious and like I would be so embarrassed to have to tell all our friends and family. Not to mention, there’s now Leni to think about and we would have to explain to her that her sister isn’t Ru anymore, which would be confusing. Leni, who is almost 2, calls her Ruru and it’s very cute.

The easiest thing would be keep it as Ru, or change to Ines Ru and only tell people we want to. But Kev isn’t okay with Ines.
The hard thing but what would make me happiest would be to change her name to Frances, and name the third Lou. But is that crazy?

Will this pass? Sometimes I adore Ruru and her one-of-a-kind name. Kevin thinks it’s the best. I’m unsure…
I’m equal parts wanting reassurance that Ru is great and not a millennial mistake like “Starship” or “Blueberry”, but equally wanting validation that changing her name would be fine and people would forget in no time and move on like it never happened.

What would you do?

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I would proably do that (change the name to Frances). Because if you plan on naming your third kid [name_f]Lou[/name_f], you could possibly get them mixed up. I think you should, but only if you are absolutely certain. The only reason I give this advice because [name_f]Lou[/name_f] as the youngest child would be absolutely adorable.
Idea: Talk to your husband about it (again?) about making her name [name_m]Francis[/name_m], and your youngest [name_f]Lou[/name_f].
Idea 2: Go with Ru, but just change her middle name to [name_m]Francis[/name_m], and everyone could adjust to that.
Best of [name_m]Luck[/name_m]

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I would change her name to [name_f]Frances[/name_f], but only if you’re completely sure about it.

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Husband says he’s totally okay with us changing it if it’s what I REALLY want, and he says he thinks she suits Frances. So now the option is there to change should we decide. Still open to thoughts and input from others :slight_smile:

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Would you consider changing her name to Frances Ruth and let her go by both Frances and Ru? You would still have a Ru and Lou, but at least you’d get to use all three names, and husband can still use Ru since he loves it.

Edit: I commented before reading your above comment. I’m glad you two came up with a compromise!:heartpulse:

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I think [name_f]Ruth[/name_f] no longer works for us. We both feel it wasn’t the one and never fully jived with our fam. And I think at this point we’d likely nix Ru altogether to hold out for [name_f]Lou[/name_f].
I don’t want Ru and [name_f]Lou[/name_f], so I think the best thing is to forget Ru.
Alternatively, if we’d be willing not to name the new baby [name_f]Lou[/name_f], then we could do [name_f]Frances[/name_f] Ru or something to keep Ru in there. But it’s seeming like we won’t.

It will be an adjustment at first, mostly just for [name_f]Leni[/name_f], but I think in no time she’ll have forgotten and will pick up [name_f]Frances[/name_f] with ease, just as we will

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Ahhh gosh naming a child is so hard :woman_facepalming:t3:

I had major name regret when it came to naming Lilia my gosh it was awful. I think because I always envisioned having a daughter named Rose so me not having a daughter named Rose was strange. Then when we left lockdown (Lilia was a Covid baby) and I introduced her to wider world everyone struggled with her name which just left me feeling super awkward about her name. I honestly felt that I had chosen the wrong name it was such a horrible period. I also kept thinking this is most likely going to be my only baby and I haven’t used my favourite name. I also didn’t use Rose because I had a very close friend whose daughter is Peyt0n-Rose known only as Peyt0n-Rose so I found it weird having both names within the same social circle. In my head both girls would grow up together and it was all too much. I’m saying all this despite her actually taking Rose from me in the first place but that’s another story anyways there were other factors involved as to why I didn’t use Rose but it felt weird not using her. I eventually got over these feelings through berry support, creating a pros and cons list surrounding the name and realising that I actually do love Lilia. I also found using the nickname Lily helped me overcome the awkwardness surrounding people not understanding Lilia. This is the suggestion from the berries and it helped so much!

Anyways I wanted to share my story to say it’s normal. Completely normal. It’s a huge decision naming a child it’s normal to feel overwhelmed! Also your relatively postpartum your little R.u is only 7 months old it it takes around 6 months to a year to recover fully from birth you’ll have hormones creating havoc making you doubt your capabilities/decisions. On top of this you’re 17 weeks pregnant which just provides an another lot of hormones to your plate. Honestly having a baby back to back takes a huge toll on you as a person! You’re bound to be feeling a whole heap of emotions and feeling unsure. Furthermore you are naming another human which makes you think about names, sibling sets and what could be. I often think if I had another daughter and named my first Rose I could have gone with Faith or Hope. However I know if I ever (highly unlikely) have another child I would have to go with Rose (I wouldn’t have anymore than 2 even thinking of having 2 feels wild) so I would miss out on using Faith or Hope. It’s a lot to process and normal to think your missing out or romanticise what could have been.

If it was me I would stick with R.u I think she’s fun, kooky and works wonders with Leni. I think stylistically they are so well matched. I also think you’re so close to Lou that yes they are not the same but it’s only one letter out you have practically used the name. They share such similar characteristics both are nickname names, end in that U sound and feel joyous. If you think R.u doesn’t work long term due to issues you’ve raised I would go with Ruth. Ruth is lovely! I think changing to In3z R.u wouldn’t be the best choice just because your husband isn’t completely in love with the name In3z. Still I would stick with R.u I think she’s lovely so fun. Also it’ll be a lot for L3ni to start calling her baby sister Frances furthermore babies start understanding their identity at 6 months this goes in part with their name. Your baby’s name is a massive part of her identity she will recognise that her name is R.u and respond to that name this name change which could be tricky for her to wrap her head around. So in a nutshell I would try and remember all the happy thoughts you have surrounding R.u her name is magical and most importantly is your little girl’s name! Throwing something random into the mix for baby girl no.3 would you go with Frances Lou? Or Frances Lou Mars? I think having Lou as a middle name would be an idea of still keeping her but also not having any trickiness with name changes. I actually really like the idea of Frances Lou Mars yes the flow is a little choppy but I think name is cool and full of joy :two_hearts:

Wishing you all the best!

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I totally empathize with the name struggle! If possible, I wouldn’t switch Ru to [name_f]Frances[/name_f] and baby to [name_f]Lou[/name_f]. I think it would be confusing for [name_f]Leni[/name_f] and (currently) Ru to adjust to [name_f]Frances[/name_f] then quickly add a [name_f]Lou[/name_f] - I could see the “oo” sound being confusing and prompting Ru/Frances to respond thinking it’s her name. I also, personally, would feel hurt if my parents renamed me so that my new baby sister could have their favorite name. It seems like it could cause confusion, jealousy, sibling rivalry, etc.

Some ideas for Ru, if you really feel that it isn’t right for her:
[name_f]Lou[/name_f] (I know you don’t want [name_f]Leni[/name_f] and [name_f]Lou[/name_f] back to back but with sister [name_f]Frances[/name_f] already on the way I don’t think it’s that too much)
[name_f]Rue[/name_f], [name_f]Ruth[/name_f], [name_f]Ruthie[/name_f], [name_f]Rua[/name_f], [name_f]Rooney[/name_f] (maybe a spelling change or elaboration would make it feel like a new name without causing confusion or making a big change)
Ru [name_f]Ines[/name_f] or [name_f]Ines[/name_f] Ru “Nes, Nessie” (helps with your husband’s issues with [name_f]Ines[/name_f] while retaining the name)

Hmmm yes we defs are noticing how difficult it would be for not just [name_f]Leni[/name_f], but also for Ru to have to relearn her name and thus, identity.

Wondering now if maybe switching to [name_f]Lou[/name_f] would be the better route… a bit more subtle for all and similar sound, but one that I feel more definitively keen on.

[name_m]Or[/name_m] possibly just keeping Ru and letting it grow and evolve until she is older to possibly decide for herself.

The last option is giving her a longer full/first name that still allows for Ru. The only two I like are [name_f]Rumi[/name_f] and [name_f]Rooney[/name_f]. I don’t want [name_f]Ruth[/name_f]. I don’t like [name_f]Ruby[/name_f]. I really dislike [name_f]Rue[/name_f], which seems silly cause it’s the same name as Ru but something about the “E” at the end makes it seem like a completely different name to me.
If we did this, we’d likely change the middle name cause I don’t love [name_f]Rumi[/name_f] [name_f]Ines[/name_f] or [name_f]Rooney[/name_f] [name_f]Ines[/name_f]. Which is fine, don’t have to tell people about a middle name change. [name_f]My[/name_f] husband is less into this idea altogether, but I could make a bit more of a case for it.

Hmmmmm. Thoughts?

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For what it’s worth, Ru is lovely - sparky, cool and charming.

Naming is so hard - that’s something you and your child carry through life - and I can’t imagine what a commitment that is.

Still, since your husband isn’t behind a change, you’ve got another change to use [name_f]Frances[/name_f], and [name_f]Leni[/name_f] knows her as Ru (and it’s around now she’ll start consistently recognising her name, I believe) I think honestly, leaving it as it is might be best. Of course it’s up to you, just giving my thoughts :heart:

A few things you could do:

  • switch up the spelling - [name_f]Rue[/name_f], [name_m]Roux[/name_m], Rou? Maybe it feels more substantial, maybe more in line with [name_f]Lou[/name_f]?
  • consider [name_f]Ruth[/name_f]? it fits well stylistically with [name_f]Frances[/name_f] and with [name_f]Leni[/name_f] too. She could still be Ruru or Ru??
  • Rulou as a nickname?

As I say, just my pov :slight_smile:

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I really appreciate this!! It actually makes me feel so much better to know others have felt some regret or doubt after the fact, too. I hate pressured decisions!! I am the girl that needs to take the dress home and try it on a few times before I decide to keep it. Which doesn’t necessarily make naming babies easy lol. [name_f]Every[/name_f] so often you nail it- like with [name_f]Leni[/name_f] [name_f]Bloom[/name_f]. And other times, as you start to debate, you get further and further away it feels and that’s when impulse can set in.

Anyways, I appreciate all this a lot. Ru definitely knows her name and responds to it, so that does feel strange and kind of sad to change on her. Definitely worth considering before doing anything. I like to think it all worked out how it was meant to, but it’s easy to feed into “what could have been.” I think I also have some hostility towards this friend for seperate reasons different from the name thing, and maybe that also makes me frustrated about missing out on using [name_f]Frances[/name_f] the second time instead of Ru and hanging on to that grudge.

Today when my husband said we could change it; we started calling her [name_f]Frances[/name_f] for the day to see how it felt and I felt so relieved and happy and I just loved it. I’m conflicted on if this is something that’s already done and you can’t go back on, and there’s some learning and acceptance in that. [name_m]Or[/name_m] if it’s something I should acknowledge and just change and not make a big deal of and question if I’ll immediately be so happy with the decision.

TBD lol….

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I love Frances!! If it feels good I would definitely change it to Frances. What middle name will you use?? I know you will find something beautiful.

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I feel the best thing to do is leave everything as it is. The way I see it, you named your daughter and you did a great job. You made the decision with love, thought and consideration. You made the best decision you could in the moment you were in. That’s all anyone can do.

I think naming a child is inherently challenging. It’s one of the first decisions we make for our child and we want to get it right. There are often multiple conflicting factors that make it hard to decide on the one perfect name. However, I believe there is always more than one right choice and ultimately a parent’s responsibility is to simply choose a serviceable name and then let the child take ownership.

Lots of parents still think about names after the final decision is over. I still think about our middle name choice from time to time. It’s difficult to stop shopping for names all of a sudden after giving it so much consideration especially if there are other names you love just as much. I believe this ruminating goes away over time.

I also think it’s possible you’re now thinking with the benefit of hindsight since you know now that you’re having a third daughter. It lets you go back and think about how you could’ve had all your favourite names if you’d known ahead of time. I don’t think this calls for you to change your daughter’s name. I feel it calls for acceptance of how things are and to give yourself grace.

I wish you all the best with your decision whatever path you take.

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I think the easiest change, if you do want a change, is to switch Ru to [name_f]Lou[/name_f]. Those two really do sound similar (not just the -u/ou, but R and L are also very similar) so it would be very easy transition for everyone, especially your older daughter. You will have #3 as [name_f]Frances[/name_f] to temper the back-to-back Ls - which is a non-issue, honestly - and you could still call #2 Ru or Ru-Lou or Lou-Ru or whatever you wish.

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I think Ru is cute, but if it doesn’t feel right, why not rename her [name_f]Lou[/name_f] and call new baby [name_f]Frances[/name_f]? I just think if she’s been Ru thus far and then its changed to something very different and then new baby is called [name_f]Lou[/name_f], that seems like it would be confusing for all your kids. I think Ru is honestly a really nice name though.

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Other ideas to lengthen Ru that I think would be cute with sisters [name_f]Leni[/name_f] and Lou/Frances (trying to exclude what others have suggested)
[name_m]Cerulean[/name_m]
[name_f]Prue[/name_f]
[name_m]Rudy[/name_m]
[name_f]Rula[/name_f]
[name_f]Rumi[/name_f]
I think you could also do something like Liru, [name_f]Lura[/name_f], [name_f]Raluca[/name_f], Rilou or something so you could call her [name_f]Lou[/name_f] or Ru

Honestly, I think the only way to have Lou at this point is to change Ru’s name to Lou. I say this because Ru & Lou are so similar & I think it would be very confusing to Ru & Leni if the new baby has nearly the same name that Ru has/previously had.

I would recommend changing Ru to Lou & then name the new baby Frances. Otherwise, change Ru to Frances but choose something entry different for the new baby.

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@Heyrara I’m exactly the same I dislike making decisions I would rather someone did that for me :joy::joy: I also think huge decisions like naming a child are just so all consuming your bound to feel overwhelmed/doubt your decision. But I also feel just because you’ve had doubts doesn’t mean you didn’t nail the name. For me I just lacked confidence with the name Lilia however Lilia is perfect for my daughter. She’s definitely Lilia!

Honestly I think as your girl responds to R.u it wouldn’t be fair to change her name it’s already formed part of her identity. I do like the idea from @Greyblue of altering the spelling to Rou as that would make it closer to Lou. I also completely understand the reminiscing about an alternate universe where you have Leni, Frances + Lou I think again that’s normal especially if you like names! I have similar thoughts surrounding Rose.

Just like you I feel a lot of hostility towards my friend over so many things (she brought chaos to my life) and I also feel bitter about her asking me what I would name my daughter me responding with Rose due to tons and tons of significant reasons and then her just running with it, ultimately choosing Peyt0n-Rose known only as Peyt0n-Rose as this was not on her radar, her shortlist did not consist of Rose. I also played around with calling Lilia different names when I was going through these emotions using Rose, Elizabeth and Lillian. I felt happy it was fun but deep down I knew her name was Lilia. I just want to add if you did change her name to Frances and then this third girl you name Lou I think that would be even more confusing to Leni as she’s probably just beginning to make words, understand language and form words herself. Ru + Lou are soooo similar that would probably confuse her further that her newest sister has a name which is so similar to her old sister’s name. I know it would confuse me and I’m an adult. If it was me I would name this newest baby Frances Lou Mars and stick with Ru for your girl maybe just switching it up slightly by using Rou.

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I am in agreement with most of the previous posters that changing Ru’s name to [name_f]Frances[/name_f], and naming the new baby [name_f]Lou[/name_f], is utterly too confusing for your family (mainly your daughters themselves).

If you are dead set on changing Ru’s name, the most logical option is calling her [name_f]Lou[/name_f]. They are similar enough in sound I feel like you could do a gradual transition hopefully without immense confusion. With a third baby with another initial already on the way the double L initials are a nonissue imo.

I personally love Ru, and have referenced her name here on the forums in recommendation to another poster!

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We are hanging tight and keeping her as Ru. I think there’s a good chance I’m hormonal and fixating.
After [name_f]Leni[/name_f] was born, I became obsessed with why we didn’t spell her name L.enny instead of [name_f]Leni[/name_f] and I could not let it go. Fast forward to now…. I love her name and am so grateful we spelt it the way we did. So there’s a good chance this is a different version of that lol.

I really agree and resonate so much with everyone who has spoken to grieving ideas of names that we have from before and then can continue to romanticize and dwell over. And ultimately, we can’t know what we know now when naming them. So I couldn’t have known I’d have three girls and that’s part of accepting decisions.

Ruru really does suit her name so much and so when I actually reflect on all this, I can clearly see this is more about my current anxiety and fixation, and not actually about her not suiting her name or it not feeling right. I’d hate to take that away from Ru or [name_f]Leni[/name_f].

Thank you everyone for the reassurance and input. This actually helped so much and something about even just openly saying it and setting it free kind of relieved a lot of what I was feeling.

I think she’s Ru for a reason.

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