Name regret… still… 2 years later

I’m back, Berries. Still here battling name regret :disappointed_face:

I have three daughters: Leni Bloom, Ru Ines, and Frances Plum. I can’t for the life of me feel good about Ru’s name. She commonly goes by Ruru at home, or just Ru. I struggled finding a name I liked at the time I was pregnant with Ru. Looking back, I can see now that my problem was there were so many names I liked but I constantly analyzed them and became fixated with how they paired with Leni’s name. I challenged if they were too mainstream or popular or so on and so forth. Instead of just picking something that I knew in my heart I liked, regardless of opinions or popularity.

We loved Lou and this was the name we were calling her while she was in utero. Kind of last minute, I bailed and became resistant to have a Leni and Lou. It felt so matchy and I knew we’d have another kid and it felt not right to have two L names, and then a third without. This now seems so silly and such a non-issue.

We named Ru, Ruth. I picked this name a few weeks before she was born (in the middle of the night lol), and liked how timeless it was. My husband is Jewish and I thought it was one of those old lady names that come back and are so sweet on a modern day girl.

When sharing the name, I asked that everyone refer to her as Ru for short. Then about two weeks later, I decided Ruth didn’t work for us and we should officially call her Ru, since everyone was calling her that anyways.

Now, two years later, I still am consumed by this decision. Often when sharing the name with strangers at the park, they respond, “Oh, interesting, like Winnie the Pooh? Roo??” Which immediately makes me hate the name. Then I’ll tell them my third is Frances and they say, “I love that name!!! So great!!” Which almost affirms how strange Ru is.

I feel totally pigeon holed. She’s 2 years old. She also honestly LOOKS like a Ru lol. The name really suits her. But I regret it so much. I hate that it’s 2 letters. I hate when I go to type it it’s like not recognized and that always makes me feel stupid. Like I gave her this weird name that is just a sound. And I can’t let it go.

Sometimes I think about just giving her a longer first name, like Ruby or Rooney or Ruthie. But I oddly get scared to do that. I guess I feel like, I wouldn’t have picked Ruby either as a top choice, it’s more just a solution to this problem and allows us to work with Ru.

I still wish she was Lou. Every time I hear this name, my heart throbs. The one that got away. I love it so much. But I don’t know…. Is this just the consequence and outcome of naming? We have to just accept and move on? Or do I still have the right or the option to change it?

Leni, her older sister, is 3. So she would have to re learn a new name, though we could explain that we intentionally changed it. I know this isn’t a great thing to do at this age though to either of them.

My husband says he loves her name. He thinks it’s very unique and cool and fits her perfectly. My friends- bless them- all say it’s such a great name and so chic and special and they adore it. But I can’t get on board and feel like everyone’s just trying to make me feel better lol.

Sigh… can’t believe I’m still talking about this after so long. Also immediate regret for not just changing it at the time of my last post saying this very same thing, when she was 7 months!!! Which seems so young and acceptable now by comparison :joy:

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So sorry you’re having name struggles :heart:

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I, personally, think [name_m]Ru[/name_m] is adorable! The [name_f]Winnie[/name_f] the Pooh character didn’t even cross my mind!

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If you don’t like [name_f]Ruby[/name_f] or [name_f]Ruthie[/name_f], perhaps a ‘ro’ starting name would work? Like [name_f]Rosalie[/name_f] or maybe even [name_f]Ramona[/name_f]?

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Other suggestions:

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[name_f]Rosemary[/name_f], [name_f]Romilly[/name_f], Prudence, True/Truly, [name_m]Rowan[/name_m], [name_m]Drew[/name_m], [name_f]Gert[/name_f]rude, [name_f]Larue[/name_f] (kinda sounds like Lou?)

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Good luck!

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Oh sorry you’re having name regret. For what it’s worth, I like Ru better than Lou. I don’t particularly love 2 letter names, would you consider changing it to Rue? It’s really lovely.

If you’re really set on changing it… Could you still change it to Lou? Well yes, I think it’s now or never, they are still really young and -not being a professional or anything- I think they’d adapt easily, but I completely understand the struggles.

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I’m so sorry you’re still struggling with this. If it makes it better, I know a handful of little Rue’s in my area (and several more with it as a middle name) and Ru just seems like a more streamlined spelling imo. Rue has even charted in official stats in the 500-700s the last couple of years.
You may feel it is too late to change her name now, given her and older siblings ages now, but if you really wanted to Lou does rhyme and wouldn’t be too difficult of a change if you really felt it is “the one”.

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Wow, that is a really tricky situation :pensive_face: Thank you for sharing.

You definitely still have the option to change things if you want to do that.

If I were in your position, completely honestly, I would pick an elongation of a Ru name. With the caveat that it’s one you really like, of course. I think it solves a lot of your problems without creating too many more.

Lou and Ru are similar which might make it easier to change for your kids, but it’s still a massive adjustment to change a child’s name. I don’t say this with any judgement by the way and I’m not an expert on these things. But you would have to help both your kids adjust, your family, your friends. Especially Ru. I don’t know how attached she is to her name, but I also have a 2 year old, and I can’t imagine her “letting” go of her name easily even if it were a really similar name.

Also, a lot that you are saying about Ru would also be true about Lou. It’s a very short name and people are probably going to assume it’s short for something. If that is a big point that’s irritating you, I can’t see Lou being much different unfortunately.

I think a lot of the problems could be solved by picking a name that can be shortened to Ru. I understand what you mean about names like Ruthie or Ruby not topping your lists back then so it feels less authentic, but I also think that the past is less relevant now. What matters is that you like the name now and you can see it on your daughter. You’ve got to know her now, so you’re actually probably better situated to pick a name that suits her :heart:

Obviously if you truly don’t like any of the elongated names then that gets you back to the drawing board. I don’t think renaming her Lou needs to be off the table, but in all honestly it would be something you would have to commit to 100%, quite soon. Also, your husband would probably have to be completely on board as well.

I honestly wish you all the best and hope you find a resolution! :heart::heart::heart:

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I’m sorry you’re feeling that way. That’s really hard! Sending big hugs! :purple_heart:[name_f][/name_f] I do think she will be too attached to her name and identity to change it at this stage.

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I think the only doable option would be to change her legal name, but continue calling her [name_m]Ru[/name_m]. You could use a [name_m]Ru[/name_m]- name as a first name or middle name, to keep the [name_m]Ru[/name_m] nickname connection.

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Some [name_m]Ru[/name_m]- ideas:
[name_f][/name_f][name_f]Runa[/name_f]
[name_f][/name_f][name_f]Rumi[/name_f]
[name_f][/name_f][name_f]Ruhi[/name_f]
[name_f][/name_f][name_f]Ruelle[/name_f]
[name_f][/name_f][name_f]Rua[/name_f]

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What about alternative spellings of the names you mention, such as [name_f]Rubi[/name_f] / [name_f]Rubie[/name_f] / [name_f]Rubee[/name_f]?

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What if you added an -e. Would [name_f]Rue[/name_f] feel like a more complete name?

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I hope you find a solution that makes you feel better. It must be so hard to dislike your baby’s name whenever you hear it! :people_hugging:[name_f][/name_f] (For what it’s worth, I think the Pooh [name_m]Bear[/name_m] connection is actually adorable!)

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[name_f]My[/name_f] thoughts too. [name_f]Rue[/name_f] is an established name, wouldn’t require anyone to get used to a new name as it sounds identical, and for me that one extra E just makes it feel so much more complete. I love [name_f]Rue[/name_f] as a full name and feel like it strikes a great balance between light and lyrical [name_f]Leni[/name_f] and grounded, traditional [name_f]Frances[/name_f].

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If I were to pick a longer name to shorten to Ru(e), I would go with [name_f]Ramona[/name_f], [name_f]Romy[/name_f], [name_f]Romilly[/name_f] or [name_f]Runa[/name_f], any of which would make a lovely addition to your family.

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It sounds like all of your girls are still very young, so I’m sure they would take any change in their stride, should you go down that route.

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I came here to suggest the “Rue” option as well!

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if I’m being honest, I’ve always admired your girls’ names, but Ru’s was always my favorite! I absolutely adore it with [name_f]Ines[/name_f], and while I also love the spellings [name_f]Rue[/name_f] and [name_m]Roux[/name_m], something about the punchy two letters of [name_m]Ru[/name_m] just really struck me! it’s effortlessly cool and unique. and for what it’s worth, I much prefer it to [name_f]Lou[/name_f], especially with her sisters (whose names also feel cool and punchy—Lou feels a little more plain in comparison imo).

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and I say all this, first because it’s true, but also because… I think it’s too late to change it. I think there comes a time when a name is no longer yours, when you have fully given it to your child for them to do with it what they please. because to her, she isn’t trying to decide if she’s a [name_f]Lou[/name_f] or a [name_m]Ru[/name_m] the same way you are. to her, she is [name_m]Ru[/name_m]. it doesn’t seem fair imo to change it on her, especially at an age when I don’t think she’s old enough to understand what a name change even means.

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and by the time she would be old enough understand, she would have her own opinion about it… hence why I think the time to change has passed and the name no longer belongs to you, and is no longer yours to change.

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I add another vote to those suggesting the [name_f]Rue[/name_f] spelling, even if that would only fix one of your concerns. I also wonder what’s stopping you from going back to [name_f]Ruth[/name_f] “Ru” or [name_f]Ruthie[/name_f] “Ru”. I’ve also known a little girl named Ruey, which I think is absolutely adorable and which fit her really well.

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brutal honesty? it seems to me like you want the solution to be going back in time and changing the name, and nothing except for that option is sticking for you. unfortunately, that’s not a true option. however, I think you’re really lucky in this case in that your husband loves the name, loves how it’s unique and cool and fits her, and that even you[name_f][/name_f] think it fits her!

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I think it’s time to focus on these positives and to let it go. you can’t go back in time. your daughter knows herself as [name_m]Ru[/name_m], her sisters know her as [name_m]Ru[/name_m], her friends know her as [name_m]Ru[/name_m]. you love your daughter, so maybe it would help to think of [name_m]Ru[/name_m] as something which is a part of her, like her beautiful eyes, her infectious giggle, her wild imagination, and everything else which comes together to make her the little girl you love.

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The posters before me have already said all that I’d say, but I just wanted to chime in and add that I really like the spelling of [name_m]Ru[/name_m]! I think with [name_f]Leni[/name_f], which is also a more minimalistic, streamlined, phonetic spelling, [name_m]Ru[/name_m] would actually be my choice before [name_f]Rue[/name_f]! If [name_f]Rue[/name_f] would make you like your daughter’s name then go for it, of course, but I actually like [name_m]Ru[/name_m] the best for [name_f][/name_f] your family x

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I’m so sorry [name_f][/name_f] to hear you’re having regrets [name_f][/name_f] and I know it won’t help exactly, but I do love Ru’s name.

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At two, I do think it feels a bit late to change it entirely [name_f][/name_f]- that is her name now.

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I guess I’d consider:

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  • How do you feel about ‘Ruth’ or ‘Ruthie’ now? I know you decided they didn’t work at the time, but does the idea of being able to say her name was [name_f]Ruth[/name_f] “Ru” make you feel any easier?
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  • Would spelling it [name_f]Rue[/name_f] make any difference? I know an adult [name_f]Rue[/name_f] :person_shrugging:
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  • Is there a more off-beat R- / ru name that might work? Maybe one that’s stretchy? I’m thinking [name_f]Rosemary[/name_f], [name_f]Rosamund[/name_f], [name_f]Runa[/name_f], [name_f]Trudy[/name_f] / [name_f]Trudie[/name_f], [name_f]Keturah[/name_f], [name_f]Eudora[/name_f], [name_f]Romilly[/name_f], Ramona…
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I hope you’re able to find some peace with this, whatever way you decide is right :heart:

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I’m sorry it’s been such a battle. I remember you well. I want to repeat some things I said to you last time you were here because I think they still apply. You made the best decision you could for the moment you were in. You did a great job choosing your daughter’s name.

I believe this situation calls for acceptance. I have a two year old who only refers to himself by his name and has been known to correct people calling him a different name, such as one of his baby nicknames. He has clearly taken ownership of his name and in all likelihood so has your daughter. I don’t think changing her name is a genuine option.

I think changing your daughter’s name is fraught with complex feelings any way you do it because it may feel like an admission of guilt, bring up feelings of shame, feel like her name was a mistake, and ultimately it is a change for your benefit rather than hers. Her name isn’t wrong in any way, and your struggles are not hers. So I don’t think change is the best course of action.

I believe your focus should be on coming to terms with your decision. You could go through this on your own but you may find it helpful to have someone to go through it with you. Your regret and your thinking about how you wish things were different isn’t helping you, it’s making you miserable.

It may help to confront your feelings about the past decision and let them out unfiltered. Think about everything about this situation that makes you sad. I’m sad that… I didn’t get to use Lou. I’m sad that… I was afraid of being judged for matching names. Think about everything that makes you angry. I’m angry that… people say “Oh interesting, like Winnie the Pooh?” but then praise Frances. And so on. Let yourself grieve letting go of Lou.

Think about your responses to each of your pain points. Is there a different way you could respond? A different way to frame the issues that allows you or the name to not be at fault? You could prepare for how you will handle them in the future. E.g. “We love all of our daughters’ names and think they all suit their names.” Get your husband on board to help with the pain points.

How you deal with your regret and your decision can teach your daughters by example. You can look at your past as an learning experience and see an opportunity for growth. You can have self-compassion and come through your regret with tough resilience, and a deeper kindness for others who have their own regrets.

This could be an opportunity to be a champion for your daughter’s name. Keeping her name is decision made out of love, for her sake, and I’ve found those aren’t decisions you regret. I wish you all the best and hope you find peace.

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[name_m]Just[/name_m] wanted to circle back to the thread to second this point that was so eloquently made by @kachenka[name_f][/name_f]. I similarly hope that you know that you didn’t do anything wrong. Your daughter has a beautiful name and you really did give it with so much love :heart:[name_f][/name_f] Whatever path you choose will become the right one for your family.

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Your girls’ names are lovely.

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Have you considered spelling it [name_f]Rue[/name_f]? or [name_m]Roux[/name_m]? Very established name I feel!

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Best of luck, this must be super conflicting. But for the record, I love Ru/Rue :slight_smile:

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I totally second everything @kachenka[name_f][/name_f] said, and couldn’t have said it better. I’m sorry you still feel this way! I do vaguely remember your naming posts and really liked all[name_f][/name_f] of your childrens’ names, individually and together.

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I apologize if this is forward, and you certainly don’t have to answer here, but are you struggling with anxiety? When my anxiety is high I tend to hyperfixate on things I could have done differently. In this case I wonder if you’re trying to gain back a sense of control by renaming her, when I think enough time has passed that it’s out of your control now. I may be missing the mark here so disregard if it doesn’t apply. I don’t think you can’t[name_f][/name_f] change her name if you really want to, but I also think there will be consequences to doing so that you touched on, and also may not address the root of the problem (if it is indeed anxiety related).

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Hindsight is 20/20 and it’s easy to look back and think “I should have done it this way.” Had you named her [name_f]Lou[/name_f], maybe you’d be writing a post just like this one, regretting that you gave your 2nd child another “L” name therefore leaving the 3rd out. No way to know for sure.

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I hope you find peace with your daughter’s name soon. And if you do decide to change it, I wish you the best in that decision too. Best of luck!

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You could go back to [name_f]Ruth[/name_f] if you wanted and use the nickname [name_f]Ruthie[/name_f] instead of [name_m]Ru[/name_m]. [name_m]Or[/name_m] just use a [name_m]Ru[/name_m] name as others have suggested. In the UK there is an actress called [name_f]Rula[/name_f] Lenska. [name_f]Rula[/name_f] is a very unusual name. It’s meaning isn’t clear. Some suggest vision or sight. Others think it means commander, so you can take your pick really.

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I remember you and your beautifully named daughters well.

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Personally I do agree with @kachenka[name_f][/name_f] and couldn’t have put it better myself. However I do think having a name like [name_f]Ruth[/name_f] with the nickname ‘R.u’ could work for a birth certificate providing more options when she’s older. Still enforcing that R.u is known as anything else but R.u is not right for a 2 year old who already identifies this name with her and part of her identity so I agree with @kachenka[name_f][/name_f] I think learning to love and accept R.u is paramount.

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On another note I do prefer just R.u to [name_f]Rue[/name_f] just because there is a variation of meanings in association with this name rather then with [name_f]Rue[/name_f] it’s ’regret’ which isn’t the best. Furthermore R.u is so punchy and fun with her two letters.

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Wishing you all the best.

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Thank you for this thoughtful response!

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It’s so funny but so much of what I love about [name_f]Lou[/name_f] is the spelling! Something about O and U together is perfect to me. I actually adore short names and especially names with 3-4 letters. It surprised both my husband and I to use the name [name_f]Frances[/name_f], which was probably the only long-form name we liked, but we’ve both always loved the name and more so than [name_m]Frankie[/name_m] and [name_f]Francie[/name_f] and other nickname versions. That said, I typically am drawn to short names, nickname versions of names, and definitely the spelling of [name_f]Lou[/name_f]. But it only works with L. Rou to me just doesn’t work lol.

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Nevertheless, I agree with all your other points, truly. Thank you for chiming in :beating_heart:

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Hello- thank you for all of the reconsiderations. So helpful!

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At the time we named [name_m]Ru[/name_m], I detested [name_f]Rue[/name_f]. I felt it was an entirely different name and didn’t look right to me. I think I have a problem where there are names that I love the visual appearance of in written form, and names I love the sound of but then when seen written; less so.

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So initially I reallly didn’t like [name_f]Rue[/name_f] and that- paired with the fact that we adopted this name from the longer version, [name_f]Ruth[/name_f]- is what led us to spell it the way we did. [name_f]My[/name_f] husband also preferred [name_m]Ru[/name_m]. But I’ve since considered adding the E. It is an option that doesn’t impact or disrupt things too much, if at all.

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The irony that [name_f]Rue[/name_f] means “regret” :smiling_face_with_tear::joy::upside_down_face:

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I love [name_f]Ruth[/name_f], and she won’t be a “strange” name if you send her to [name_f]Sunday[/name_f] School and Hebrew school. [name_f][/name_f] However, why not just change it to the Israeli Ruti? [name_f][/name_f] It’s still [name_f]Ruth[/name_f] – it’s the Hebrew name – there’s a great rabbi named Ruti and you get to keep [name_m]Ru[/name_m] and it fits.