The Wonderfully Brave Girls

I’m late to the party as usual. So stoked to see that you have kept [name_f]Morgana[/name_f], a very strong a beautiful name.

Top five:

  1. [name_f]Zenobia[/name_f] (I’m so glad she’s back on your list and obviously she’s my #1, the amount of badassery that this name holds …)
  2. [name_f]Hypatia[/name_f] (… is only shared by the badassery of [name_f]Hypatia[/name_f], the most badass philosopher in the world)
  3. [name_f]Olympia[/name_f] (I love this one with [name_f]Aphrodite[/name_f], those two names compliment each other so very well)
  4. [name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f] (I love this name to bits, it’s not only wonderfully historical but also just a really beautiful name)
  5. [name_f]Sybilla[/name_f] (makes me think of [name_f]Sibylla[/name_f], the [name_f]Queen[/name_f] of Jerusalem who personally led the defence against [name_m]Saladin[/name_m] when he was besieging Jerusalem)

I also really love Silmarien and I was very close to putting it on a shared fifth place with [name_f]Sybilla[/name_f].

legalbeagle; me too! But but… we’ll see, he might change his mind still… I love [name_f]Isolde[/name_f] too.

[name_f]Pansy[/name_f]; thanks for picking out and commenting! I think [name_f]Isolde[/name_f]'s beautiful enough to deal with some pron. stuff too… Oh, I love [name_f]Callisto[/name_f]. But if we move to [name_f]Italy[/name_f] it’s a boy name over there. And [name_u]Calypso[/name_u] is the daughter of a sort of friend. As for [name_f]Delilah[/name_f], I know they fell in love first and that the bible says all these things about her, but it was written by sexist men who wanted to blame all the worlds evils on women, so I don’t believe it.

[name_f]Kristin[/name_f]; thanks!

tct; thank you! I don’t like [name_f]Thisbe[/name_f]… the sound and the namesake are both off putting for me. I’m happy you picked out [name_f]Circe[/name_f] and [name_f]Olympia[/name_f], they need more love!

[name_f]Hannie[/name_f]; thanks for you comments! Why can’t I remember that song? Is it [name_m]Tom[/name_m] [name_m]Jones[/name_m]?

[name_f]Nova[/name_f]; Thanks! If people think that, fine with me. I like Cersei Lannister (don’t judge me!). Nope I don’t consider them treacherous. Women need to stop judging women who were forced into situations they could not control. [name_f]Guinevere[/name_f] was married off to [name_m]Arthur[/name_m], she fell in love with [name_m]Lancelot[/name_m], a real true love that made them both set themselves in danger again and again. [name_m]Arthur[/name_m] didn’t exactly keep it in his pants all the time, why does no one judge him? Her story is basically the same as [name_f]Isolde[/name_f]'s, no one ever say these things about her. [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] was basically offered freedom with the money she got. I can see the story two ways; one) she chose money and freedom over a man who must’ve been a complete idiot, or two) he told her the secret to save her life. Why women keep believing all these things men has said about women over time is beyond me.

[name_f]Soph[/name_f]; I need to see that movie now… thanks for the list!

Blueberry; thanks! and thanks for giving me your favourites…

[name_f]Aurora[/name_f]; I like short names, so it doesn’t bother me. As long as the name is equally beautiful, strong and substantial I’m happy! I don’t think [name_f]Ginevra[/name_f]'s too common… ? Hmm. Thanks so much for your comments, sweets!

[name_m]Njord[/name_m]; thanks! likes and dislikes.

[name_f]Gwen[/name_f]; I know they won’t be able to pronounce it correctly. The Welsh -ll sound is tricky for non Welsh Brits, so I don’t think Italians will handle it. But the move is uncertain at the moment, so we’ll see. I don’t need persuasion on [name_f]Pandora[/name_f]… Husband doesn’t want it as she was man made. But I am trying to convince him back, I’ve still got six months to do it. Thanks though!!!

[name_f]Zelia[/name_f]; Thanks so much! Wonderful comments, you’re so sweet and helpful! :D!

Update will follow shortly…

Updated List:

[name_f]Boudicca[/name_f]
[name_f]Calliope[/name_f]
[name_f]Circe[/name_f]
[name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f]
[name_f]Guinevere[/name_f]
[name_f]Isis[/name_f]
[name_f]Isolde[/name_f]
Nimue
[name_f]Olympia[/name_f]
Proserpina
[name_f]Vashti[/name_f]

Oh, where did [name_f]Morgana[/name_f] go! [name_f]Morgana[/name_f] was my favourite! I still love her paired with [name_f]Zephyrine[/name_f] as a middle.

I do miss Hespera and Pandora. I can totally see your husband’s point but i can’t imagine you not using those names!

My top five:

Bellicent
[name_f]Zenobia[/name_f]
[name_f]Isolde[/name_f]
[name_f]Guinevere[/name_f]
[name_f]Olympia[/name_f]

As I’ve said before, I’ve fallen head over heels in love with Bellicent, but I’d never be brave enough to use it.

Huh? Where’s [name_f]Morgana[/name_f]?

I like [name_f]Calliope[/name_f], Nimue, [name_f]Olympia[/name_f], [name_f]Isis[/name_f], [name_f]Isolde[/name_f], [name_f]Circe[/name_f] and [name_f]Boudicca[/name_f]

[name_f]Morgana[/name_f] is safe, that’s why she’s not included. Like I said in the first post, this is what I intend to call my baby if it’s a girl. This thread is for finding four back up names. :slight_smile:

I can definitely see [name_f]Morgana[/name_f] in the mix but not up front for example I love the pairing of [name_f]Sybilla[/name_f] [name_f]Morgana[/name_f] (not sure of second middle) perhaps [name_f]Isolde[/name_f]

[name_f]Calliope[/name_f] Willowy and gentle
[name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f] Strong and voluptuous, I am not so keen on the snake (asp) part of [name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f]'s story but love [name_f]Cleo[/name_f] as a full name.
[name_f]Delilah[/name_f] Such a feminine name full of intrigue
[name_f]Guinevere[/name_f]/[name_f]Ginevra[/name_f] Swoonworthy I love [name_m]King[/name_m] [name_m]Arthur[/name_m]'s queen

[name_f]Isis[/name_f] Interesting and strong
[name_f]Isolde[/name_f] Dreamy
[name_f]Olympia[/name_f] Like a lot
[name_f]Sybilla[/name_f] [name_f]Love[/name_f]
[name_f]Vashti[/name_f] [name_f]Lovely[/name_f]

Combos

[name_f]Calliope[/name_f] [name_f]Morgana[/name_f] [name_f]Star[/name_f]
[name_f]Vashti[/name_f] [name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f] [name_f]Iris[/name_f] or [name_f]Vashti[/name_f] [name_f]Iris[/name_f] [name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f]
[name_f]Isis[/name_f] [name_f]Morgana[/name_f] [name_f]Olive[/name_f]
[name_f]Guinevere[/name_f] [name_f]Elspeth[/name_f] [name_f]Sybilla[/name_f] [name_f]Fern[/name_f]
[name_f]Olympia[/name_f] [name_f]Helena[/name_f] [name_f]Corinne[/name_f] (reference to Corinth one of the great ancient Greek cities)
[name_f]Morgana[/name_f] [name_f]Araminta[/name_f] [name_f]Hester[/name_f]
[name_f]Isolde[/name_f] [name_f]Eulalie[/name_f] [name_u]Lyric[/name_u]

All the best,

rollo xx

PS I forgot the [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] combo so …[name_f]Delilah[/name_f] [name_f]Ruth[/name_f] [name_f]Calliope[/name_f]

Sorry I wanted to put [name_f]Morgana[/name_f] in second place when it is your favourite name.

[name_u]Artemis[/name_u]-Yes
Aradia-Yes
Bellicent-Nah
Bradamante-Nah
[name_f]Calliope[/name_f]-Yes
[name_f]Circe[/name_f]-[name_m]Will[/name_m] be overpowered by [name_f]Aphrodite[/name_f].
[name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f]-Nah
[name_f]Delilah[/name_f]-Nah [she is bad-isn’t she?]
[name_f]Electra[/name_f]/[name_f]Elettra[/name_f]-YES YES YES
[name_f]Guinevere[/name_f]/[name_f]Ginevra[/name_f]-Yes
Hecate-Huh? She is bad so NO.
[name_f]Hypatia[/name_f]-Nah
[name_f]Isis[/name_f]-Middle?
[name_f]Isolde[/name_f]-YES YES YES
Nausicaa-Like the water theme
[name_f]Nefertiti[/name_f]-NO
Niniane-Teasing potential
[name_f]Olympia[/name_f]-Like
Silmarien-Nah
[name_f]Sybilla[/name_f]-Nah
[name_f]Vashti[/name_f]-NO
[name_f]Zenobia[/name_f]-Nah
[name_f]Zorya[/name_f]-Nah

Top 5 [in no particular order]

[name_f]Isolde[/name_f]
[name_f]Olympia[/name_f]
[name_f]Electra[/name_f]/[name_f]Elettra[/name_f]
[name_f]Morgana[/name_f]
[name_u]Artemis[/name_u] [although I’m not sure on your views on matching sibling letters]

Suggestions: [I did try looking up ‘inspirational women’ but they are all called [name_f]Jane[/name_f], [name_f]Eleanor[/name_f] or [name_f]Helen[/name_f]]

[name_f]Theadora[/name_f] [I just [name_f]LOVE[/name_f] this. I think she was a [name_m]Roman[/name_m] [name_f]Queen[/name_f] or something]

[name_f]Valentina[/name_f] [modern history but the first woman in space]

[name_f]Aurelia[/name_f] [the mother of [name_m]Julius[/name_m] [name_m]Ceasar[/name_m]. Raised [name_m]Julius[/name_m] and his two sisters as a single parent, raised [name_m]Ceasar[/name_m]'s daughter and was considered intelligent and independant lady. Held a petition to stop the execution of her son]

Murasaki [Japanese early novelist who infuriated her father because she was better at her studies than her brother but she was eventually allowed to study ‘Chinese classics’ even though that was a ‘boys subject’.]

[name_f]Hildegarde[/name_f] [a nun who was a scholar and wrote books on natural history, theology, biology, and composed music. Her music is still sung in churches today. She gave advice to the popes of her day. Maybe this would be better as a mn]]

[name_f]Titania[/name_f] [I don’t know if she is brave but I [name_f]LOVE[/name_f] this name.]

I am thinking if it is not too crazy for you-Peaseblossom would make a nice little whimsical mn.

Can’t wait for a combination thread! [my favourite job]

So this is my husband’s four other choices. He asks me every day if you’ve updated any lists!

[name_f]Calliope[/name_f]
[name_f]Vashti[/name_f]
[name_f]Olympia[/name_f]
[name_f]Guinevere[/name_f]

He did say that he feels like if you use [name_f]Olympia[/name_f], [name_m]Orpheus[/name_m] from your boys list would be too much. (Honestly, I don’t know where his sudden interest in names is coming from. He never gets into it when I talk names with him!)

My four, in addition to [name_f]Morgana[/name_f].
[name_f]Vashti[/name_f]
[name_f]Olympia[/name_f]
[name_f]Circe[/name_f]
[name_f]Calliope[/name_f]
And I’m gonna cheat, and give a tied-for-fifth option. [name_f]Guinevere[/name_f]/[name_f]Isolde[/name_f].

Out of your list, these are my top two choices:
[name_f]Calliope[/name_f]
[name_f]Guinevere[/name_f]/[name_f]Ginevra[/name_f]

My top 5 would be:

[name_f]Morgana[/name_f]
[name_f]Calliope[/name_f]
[name_f]Ginevra[/name_f]
[name_f]Isis[/name_f]
[name_f]Delilah[/name_f]

Best of luck!

OK, my top 5 would be (in order):

[name_f]Morgana[/name_f]
[name_f]Isis[/name_f]
[name_f]Isolde[/name_f]
[name_f]Calliope[/name_f]
Proserpina

With [name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f] the close 6th

[name_f]Boudicca[/name_f] – This would make a fantastic middle name – [name_f]Isis[/name_f] [name_f]Boudicca[/name_f] Nimue
[name_f]Circe[/name_f] – I just don’t like her in the front. I think she doesn’t have the same substance as [name_f]Aphrodite[/name_f] and that you have better names for the front spot. She’s a fantastic middle and she’s fantastic with [name_f]Morgana[/name_f] – [name_f]Morgana[/name_f] [name_f]Circe[/name_f] [name_f]Ondine[/name_f]
[name_f]Guinevere[/name_f] – I love this name, and I see your argument (though from my reading of [name_m]Le[/name_m] Morte de [name_m]Arthur[/name_m] she was never forced into marrying [name_m]Arthur[/name_m], she just did and then regretted it which is not a good reason for adultery), but I just don’t think you can have a [name_f]Morgana[/name_f] and [name_f]Guinevere[/name_f] and [name_m]Lancelot[/name_m] and [name_m]Merlin[/name_m] >.< Think of it this way, you’d have sisters named for the wife of Arthur and for the sister who raped him and help ruin their lives together… Not saying the men weren’t also jerks.
Nimue – I don’t like it as much as Niniane, but I love it still. It’s sort of flat next to Aphrodite but it’s fabulous in the middle. Isolde Leontine Nimue
Olympia – I think it’s too much. Aphrodite and her sister whose named after Aphrodite’s home. To me, it’s a little odd. She’s a gorgeous name and gorgeous in the middle though. Proserpina Olympia Ondine
Vashti – I just think they sound way different and don’t go together even a little.

My favorites are:
[name_f]Calliope[/name_f]
[name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f]
[name_f]Guinevere[/name_f]
[name_f]Isis[/name_f]
[name_f]Olympia[/name_f]

[name_f]Ottilie[/name_f]: No judging - I love me a bit of Cersei Lannister too! I think she’s by far the most complicated character in the series. I can’t condone a lot of the things she does, but you can absolutely see how she’s a product of her upbringing and understand her frustrations at being looked over time and time again for not having the ‘correct’ genitalia. She may not be the person I would want in power, but she’s strong in her own way.

I don’t know the story of [name_f]Isolde[/name_f], but [name_f]Guinevere[/name_f]'s story was a bit of a grey area for me. Personally I think [name_m]Arthur[/name_m] and [name_m]Lancelot[/name_m] were cads as well, so please don’t think this is just me blaming [name_f]Gwen[/name_f] (I didn’t mention the men involved because I was focussed on girl’s names). I don’t buy into the whole ‘evil temptress thing’, and frankly I think all three of them were equally as bad as each other.

[name_f]Delilah[/name_f] though. I was sure that she was in a relationship with [name_m]Samson[/name_m] of her own free will when she sold him out? I’ll have to dust off my bible for a reread, but, if she was, then I’m afraid we’ll have to politely disagree, because I still don’t think that money, and the freedoms that go with having lots of it, are good enough excuses to physically endanger someone. Especially someone who quite literally trusts you with their life. That’s kind of the epitome of treason in my book. (I do agree that [name_m]Samson[/name_m] must have been a twit to tell her his one weakness after the lies he told her were ‘coincidently’ acted upon shortly afterwards, but ‘He’s really stupid’ is just not a justifiable reason to stab your partner in the back!)

[name_u]Artemis[/name_u]
[name_f]Calliope[/name_f]
[name_f]Delilah[/name_f]
[name_f]Ginevra[/name_f] (I prefer [name_f]Ginevra[/name_f] to [name_f]Guinevere[/name_f])
[name_f]Isolde[/name_f]
[name_f]Olympia[/name_f]
Silmarien
[name_f]Sybilla[/name_f]
[name_f]Zorya[/name_f]

So many amazing names, with history and strength behind them. Had a hard time narrowing it down to 5, above are my top 9. If I had to then choose 5 from my 9:
[name_u]Artemis[/name_u]
[name_f]Calliope[/name_f]
[name_f]Ginevra[/name_f]
[name_f]Sybilla[/name_f]
[name_f]Zorya[/name_f]

I love the idea of a daughter named [name_u]Artemis[/name_u]. I think that is beautiful.

(I also like [name_f]Morgana[/name_f], and if you can already picture yourself with a baby [name_f]Morgana[/name_f], the only question is “Is this baby your [name_f]Morgana[/name_f]? Or has she yet to come?”)

Ok settling this [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] thing. No where in the verses does it say she took money to ‘be free’ (from what I might ask) or that he forced her to be with him or anything. There’s a lot of inferring going on on [name_f]Ottilie[/name_f] and other peoples parts. The fact is it says “he fell in love with her, then the Philistines asked her to find out how to make him weak, so she did, then she was angry when he lied so he wouldn’t be killed, then she asked “If you really loved me you would tell me how to tie you up and subdue you” and because he really did love her, he told her. She promptly betrayed his love and his eyes were gouged out”

4 Some time later, he fell in love with a woman in the [name_f]Valley[/name_f] of Sorek whose name was [name_f]Delilah[/name_f]. 5 The rulers of the Philistines went to her and said, “See if you can lure him into showing you the secret of his great strength and how we can overpower him so we may tie him up and subdue him. Each one of us will give you eleven hundred shekels[a] of silver.”

6 So [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] said to [name_m]Samson[/name_m], “Tell me the secret of your great strength and how you can be tied up and subdued.”

7 [name_m]Samson[/name_m] answered her, “If anyone ties me with seven fresh bowstrings that have not been dried, I’ll become as weak as any other man.”

8 Then the rulers of the Philistines brought her seven fresh bowstrings that had not been dried, and she tied him with them. 9 With men hidden in the room, she called to him, “[name_m]Samson[/name_m], the Philistines are upon you!” But he snapped the bowstrings as easily as a piece of string snaps when it comes close to a flame. So the secret of his strength was not discovered.

10 Then [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] said to [name_m]Samson[/name_m], “You have made a fool of me; you lied to me. Come now, tell me how you can be tied.”

11 He said, “If anyone ties me securely with new ropes that have never been used, I’ll become as weak as any other man.”

12 So [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] took new ropes and tied him with them. Then, with men hidden in the room, she called to him, “[name_m]Samson[/name_m], the Philistines are upon you!” But he snapped the ropes off his arms as if they were threads.

13 [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] then said to [name_m]Samson[/name_m], “All this time you have been making a fool of me and lying to me. Tell me how you can be tied.”

He replied, “If you weave the seven braids of my head into the fabric on the loom and tighten it with the pin, I’ll become as weak as any other man.” So while he was sleeping, [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] took the seven braids of his head, wove them into the fabric 14 and[b] tightened it with the pin.

Again she called to him, “[name_m]Samson[/name_m], the Philistines are upon you!” He awoke from his sleep and pulled up the pin and the loom, with the fabric.

15 Then she said to him, “[name_m]How[/name_m] can you say, ‘I love you,’ when you won’t confide in me? This is the third time you have made a fool of me and haven’t told me the secret of your great strength.” 16 With such nagging she prodded him day after day until he was sick to death of it.

17 So he told her everything. “No razor has ever been used on my head,” he said, “because I have been a Nazirite dedicated to God from my mother’s womb. If my head were shaved, my strength would leave me, and I would become as weak as any other man.”

18 When [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] saw that he had told her everything, she sent word to the rulers of the Philistines, “Come back once more; he has told me everything.” So the rulers of the Philistines returned with the silver in their hands. 19 After putting him to sleep on her lap, she called for someone to shave off the seven braids of his hair, and so began to subdue him.[c] And his strength left him.

20 Then she called, “[name_m]Samson[/name_m], the Philistines are upon you!”

He awoke from his sleep and thought, “I’ll go out as before and shake myself free.” But he did not know that the [name_m]Lord[/name_m] had left him.

21 Then the Philistines seized him, gouged out his eyes and took him down to Gaza. Binding him with bronze shackles, they set him to grinding grain in the prison.

So there was no “him forcing himself on her” there was no “gold to be free” because there was nothing to be free from. He loved her, they had a relationship, she betrayed him cause she felt like it. Sorry, I just don’t want any more arguing.

these are generally NMS, but i have managed a top 3 – [name_f]Calliope[/name_f], [name_f]Delilah[/name_f], & [name_f]Electra[/name_f]. i love [name_f]Calla[/name_f] as a NN for [name_f]Calliope[/name_f]. [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] i like on it’s own, but [name_f]Lilah[/name_f] is a nice NN. [name_f]Elle[/name_f] i like short for [name_f]Electra[/name_f]. all these are stunning, sharp, powerful names [name_f]IMO[/name_f].

[name_f]Freya[/name_f]; …I miss [name_f]Pandora[/name_f] and Hespera too :frowning: (I need that crying like crazy smiley now…)

[name_m]Rollo[/name_m]; thanks! I really love [name_f]Vashti[/name_f] [name_f]Iris[/name_f] [name_f]Cleopatra[/name_f] and [name_f]Olympia[/name_f] [name_f]Helena[/name_f] [name_f]Corinne[/name_f]. And [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] [name_f]Ruth[/name_f] [name_f]Calliope[/name_f] is super cute!

Whirlie; Hecate wasn’t bad! She was a very special and intriguing [name_f]Goddess[/name_f] (witchcraft/magic, childbirth, crossroads/boundaries, necromancy to mention a few), the only one who stood up and helped [name_u]Demeter[/name_u] when [name_f]Persephone[/name_f] was abducted. She was invoked to ward off evil, and had a deep and fascinating cult. I like [name_f]Aurelia[/name_f], but don’t love, [name_f]Valentina[/name_f] is one of my best friends and [name_f]Titania[/name_f] is one and off my list constantly! I took her off last time because of the first syllable, and because her man is on my boy list…

[name_f]Dina[/name_f]; haha, your husband rocks! Thanks mr Dindle for the list! I’m not going to use to -O names, he can rest his heart… You two basically have the same list, and it’s a good one. Thanks so much!

swtbabyg; thanks!

ljandrl; thank you!

[name_u]Angel[/name_u]; haha, I get your point. I might just have to let [name_f]Guinevere[/name_f] go… but she’s so fabulous! Oh dear. Thanks for the little combos I see you threw in, I will save them :wink:

[name_u]Unique[/name_u]; thank you!

[name_f]Nova[/name_f]; No, Cersei in power isn’t always the best thing, but I like her still. A very complex character, and she’s one of the few that doesn’t annoy me one time or another. I’ve read so many different takes on [name_f]Guinevere[/name_f]… I know the most popular ones are more suspect, but I choose to give her my good faith. As for [name_f]Delilah[/name_f]… I’m not very into the Bible, can’t really remember half of it (apart from [name_f]Jezebel[/name_f] and [name_f]Vashti[/name_f]), so I am probably mistaken. Of course stabbing your man in the back is not something anyone should do (unless he was an abusive bastard!). Thanks for your comments! I like you!

Skateblinder; that is the exact question! I hope she’s a Morgs, but if not… thanks for the list, and comments!

[name_u]Angel[/name_u]; Holy M, you typed all that??? Okay, so I’m not going with [name_f]Delilah[/name_f]. Still giving her the benefit of the doubt as I’m sure she wasn’t consulted when the (women hating) men in robes wrote than brick. Thanks sweetie!

Anygiven…(too long): Thanks! [name_f]Calla[/name_f] is cute :wink:

Ugh, I don’t remember which names are on my list apart from [name_f]Delilah[/name_f] and [name_f]Guinevere[/name_f], so I’ll update later. :slight_smile: